Politics

[Mounts Kipper]

1 hour ago, Farrelli said:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/may/15/brexit-border-it-outages-delay-import-of-perishable-items-to-uk-by-up-to-20-hours
 

#taking back control

Just a short term issue... At least the puffins have something to celebrate. 

 

UK's puffin protection laws at centre of post Brexit row - BBC News

 

 

[Spider]

7 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Are we not at record highs of illegal immigration?

After 14 years of non border wrecker government?

The more they let in, the more they can blame them and the more they can use it as an election battleground.

If they wanted to stop the boats they could do it tomorrow.

[mickbrown]

1 hour ago, Sweep said:

Even Bolty has deserted them, but he's lurched even further to the right, and reckons he'd vote Reform

It’s a hypothetical statement because he’s an Australian citizen. 
 

 

[mickbrown]

15 hours ago, Spider said:

I think only Bolty and Diver are the ones left that would pin their blue flag to the mast regardless.

Bolty doesn’t count because he abandoned ship, and I think Diver has run out of any arguments to defend them and taken his ball home.

There are grown men in their 50’s, wearing Dryrobes and crocs whilst driving convertibles around retail parks who would still vote Tory even if Sunak spent several hours a day kicking Labrador puppies face first into a jet engine. It’s all about image, they feel untouchable because they have £250k mortgages.

TMG is still fighting the good fight. 

[gonzo]

12 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

TMG is still fighting the good fight. 

Wways very own General Custer.

 

[Not in Crawley]

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

If that's the case though - wouldn't it make sense to vote for the Tories again, tactically thinking I mean? I can't see Reform UK having the clout to keep Labour out. 

Mind you - I've been wrong plenty of times before! 🤣

Its also not an actual political party. Its a business so that people like Bolty can gargle anything Richard Tice gives them. Gullible and useful tools.

[DazBob]

21 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

TMG is still fighting the good fight. 

He's certainly still swinging, but he's like a punch-drunk boxer whose trainer should've thrown in the towel a long time ago.

[Farrelli]

30 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Just a short term issue... At least the puffins have something to celebrate. 

 

UK's puffin protection laws at centre of post Brexit row - BBC News

 

 

But in an ironic twist the Puffins will die anyway from all the sewage that we have pumped into the sea. 

[royal white]

More problems being blamed on Brexit and still not one of the main parties has mentioned another referendum 🤷🏻

[Farrelli]

Another referendum would just be a distraction before the GE. Quite rightly the focus is on getting Labour in power. Then the new government can work on improving the trading arrangements (example, alignment on animal welfare, veterinary medicines, etc) to help things run efficiently.  Some common sense will be welcome. Longer term rejoining the EU should definitely be on the agenda.

[Sweep]

42 minutes ago, royal white said:

More problems being blamed on Brexit and still not one of the main parties has mentioned another referendum 🤷🏻

Why would they? - There's no point rejoining now, as it'd be on far less favourable terms than we had before.

I think people are just pointing out it's a bit of a clusterfuck, it will get better over the next few decades, of course it will, but at present it's just not very good. It doesn't mean we have to rejoin.

We've made a massive fuck up of leaving, we'd probably make an even worse effort of rejoining (if the country decided that's what they wanted to do)

[kent_white]

1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said:

Its also not an actual political party. Its a business so that people like Bolty can gargle anything Richard Tice gives them. Gullible and useful tools.

I've only read their plans for Healthcare. 

It looks like a PowerPoint presentation I'd put together if I had an hour's deadline. It's also got typos in it and inappropriate capitalisation which is my pet hate! 😁

[Cheese]

56 minutes ago, royal white said:

More problems being blamed on Brexit and still not one of the main parties has mentioned another referendum 🤷🏻

As if it's that easy. It'll be a good few years yet before anyone starts seriously talking about rejoining. But it will happen.

[royal white]

16 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Why would they? - There's no point rejoining now, as it'd be on far less favourable terms than we had before.

I think people are just pointing out it's a bit of a clusterfuck, it will get better over the next few decades, of course it will, but at present it's just not very good. It doesn't mean we have to rejoin.

We've made a massive fuck up of leaving, we'd probably make an even worse effort of rejoining (if the country decided that's what they wanted to do)

So you reckon it will get better in the long term, farelli reckons another referendum in the long term. 
 

One look through this page alone shows how people are quick to blame massive amount of the countries problems on Brexit, surely any party would use this to their advantage, it’s a guaranteed vote winner……Isn’t it? 

[Spider]

Brexit has been shit

Let’s see if Labour can roll that particular turd in glitter.

[royal white]

6 minutes ago, Cheese said:

As if it's that easy. It'll be a good few years yet before anyone starts seriously talking about rejoining. But it will happen.

So let’s ignore all these Brexit problems, because it’s “not that easy” when did you think running a country would be easy? 

[Cheese]

Just now, royal white said:

So let’s ignore all these Brexit problems, because it’s “not that easy” when did you think running a country would be easy? 

Eh?

[Farrelli]

Just now, Cheese said:

Eh?

I think it was word fudge from Mr tangent😂

[Sweep]

13 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I've only read their plans for Healthcare. 

It looks like a PowerPoint presentation I'd put together if I had an hour's deadline. It's also got typos in it and inappropriate capitalisation which is my pet hate! 😁

Some of their policies are a bit ridiculous to say the least, and totally uncosted. I suspect Bolty likes them because they get airtime on GB News and he's seen their immigration policy, if he'd take the time to read their policies, he'd see how they're just, in the main, spouting soundbites.

[Sweep]

5 minutes ago, royal white said:

So you reckon it will get better in the long term, farelli reckons another referendum in the long term. 
 

One look through this page alone shows how people are quick to blame massive amount of the countries problems on Brexit, surely any party would use this to their advantage, it’s a guaranteed vote winner……Isn’t it? 

Some this countries problems are down to Brexit.......a lot of the countries problems are also down to things outside our control (COVID and war).....and someof the problems are down to the gross mismanagement of almost everything in the past few years by the current Government. As ever, it's no one thing. I presume that you're in the camp that Brexit isn't at all responsible for anything bad that affects the economy.

For balance, Brexit has been a benefit to some, although I personally believe as we stand, that the negatives far outweigh the positives

If it was a guaranteed vote winner, then one of the major parties would have mentioned, so I don't think it's perceived that it is at the minute. 

Will we ever vote to go back in? - who knows, we'll just have to wait and see.

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Some this countries problems are down to Brexit.......a lot of the countries problems are also down to things outside our control (COVID and war).....and someof the problems are down to the gross mismanagement of almost everything in the past few years by the current Government. As ever, it's no one thing. I presume that you're in the camp that Brexit isn't at all responsible for anything bad that affects the economy.

For balance, Brexit has been a benefit to some, although I personally believe as we stand, that the negatives far outweigh the positives

If it was a guaranteed vote winner, then one of the major parties would have mentioned, so I don't think it's perceived that it is at the minute. 

Will we ever vote to go back in? - who knows, we'll just have to wait and see.

I’m guessing it’s not as bad as some make out then? 
 

 

[royal white]

11 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

I think it was word fudge from Mr tangent😂

What are waffling on about now you depressing nonce 

[Cheese]

Just now, royal white said:

I’m guessing it’s not as bad as some make out then? 

Do you think it's gone well?

[Sweep]

13 minutes ago, royal white said:

I’m guessing it’s not as bad as some make out then? 
 

 

for some people it is, and for some people it isn't  - and I'd guess that for the majority of people, they won't know either way 

[Sweep]

12 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Do you think it's gone well?

Do you really think he'll give a straight answer to this?