Politics

[royal white]

1 minute ago, DirtySanchez said:

No

See above

How did you get access to these negotiations that haven’t taken place. I take it all those who are anti Brexit will vote against rejoining the EU in a few years (if it goes the way many are saying on here) because of what you have just said? 

[Cheese]

5 minutes ago, royal white said:

Whats the reality then? You haven’t a clue really have you 

The reality is we were far better off being in the EU than being out of it. It's not difficult. 

[royal white]

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

The reality is we were far better off being in the EU than being out of it. It's not difficult. 

You said it’s going to happen so why wait longer to get in? It’s going to cost us whether it’s next year or next decade. What are we waiting for? Surely any party wants what’s best for the people.

[DirtySanchez]

1 minute ago, royal white said:

How did you get access to these negotiations that haven’t taken place. I take it all those who are anti Brexit will vote against rejoining the EU in a few years (if it goes the way many are saying on here) because of what you have just said? 

Do you honestly think we will we will get the same terms? 

It may end up being a shitty deal, as the EU are tough negotiators, and its just not worth it

Simply due to the deal we get 

[royal white]

1 minute ago, DirtySanchez said:

Do you honestly think we will we will get the same terms? 

It may end up being a shitty deal, as the EU are tough negotiators, and its just not worth it

Simply due to the deal we get 

But many of the anti Brexit lot are convinced we will be back in the EU eventually, what makes you think the terms will be better 10/20 years down the line? The country is in a shit state now mainly because of Brexit (apparently) so what are we waiting for? 

[Casino]

4 hours ago, mickbrown said:

TMG is still fighting the good fight. 

Stooges

[kent_white]

3 minutes ago, royal white said:

You said it’s going to happen so why wait longer to get in? It’s going to cost us whether it’s next year or next decade. What are we waiting for? Surely any party wants what’s best for the people.

I think if they could push a magic button - and we would magically just rejoin the EU on our original terms and without any fannying about - then the Labour Party would probably push the button. 

But the reality is that reapplying would mean we would be on poorer terms, would cause another 5 or so years of taking our eyes off important domestic issues, would make us look like a laughing stock as a country, and would mean losing a shit ton of money changing all of our systems back again. 

I'm all for the magic button idea mind! 😁

 

[Cheese]

4 minutes ago, royal white said:

You said it’s going to happen so why wait longer to get in? It’s going to cost us whether it’s next year or next decade. What are we waiting for? Surely any party wants what’s best for the people.

As I said - because there are still millions of brainwashed fuckwits like you who would vote to stay out of the EU even though it's in their best interests for us to rejoin. Things like this take years.

[royal white]

1 minute ago, kent_white said:

I think if they could push a magic button - and we would magically just rejoin the EU on our original terms and without any fannying about - then the Labour Party would probably push the button. 

But the reality is that reapplying would mean we would be on poorer terms, would cause another 5 or so years of taking our eyes off important domestic issues, would make us look like a laughing stock as a country, and would mean losing a shit ton of money changing all of our systems back again. 

I'm all for the magic button idea mind! 😁

 

Which will probably be the same situation in 10/20/30 years time, if that’s the case what are other posters on about saying we will have another ref and us joining the EU will happen? 

[Sweep]

36 minutes ago, royal white said:

Of course, But now the majority, well according to yougov polls are against it, so as per my opening question. Why do none of the main parties want us back in the EU? 

Have you asked your local MP, rather than asking a bunch of spazs and nonces?  -  I reckon that would be a better place to start, considering you seem to want an answer to that question 😁 

[DirtySanchez]

6 minutes ago, royal white said:

But many of the anti Brexit lot are convinced we will be back in the EU eventually, what makes you think the terms will be better 10/20 years down the line? The country is in a shit state now mainly because of Brexit (apparently) so what are we waiting for? 

The terms may be better 10/20 years down the line

But at this point in time I suspect they wont

Lets say you're chief negotiator for the EU, would you say 'come back in lads, all is forgiven and the terms are just the same' 

[royal white]

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

As I said - because there are still millions of brainwashed fuckwits like you who would vote to stay out of the EU even though it's in their best interests for us to rejoin. Things like this take years.

So those you gov polls are a load of shite then? Thanks for clearing that up 

[royal white]

Just now, Sweep said:

Have you asked your local MP, rather than asking a bunch of spazs and nonces?  -  I reckon that would be a better place to start, considering you seem to want an answer to that question 😁 

They’re the same as well, had no answers, went on a tangent and started asking for Brexit benefits. 

[gonzo]

Hi, 

Any chance we can rejoin your gang with all the same benefits we had before.

Hi, 

No.

 

OK thanks bye.

 

[Winchester White]

Just now, gonzo said:

Hi, 

Any chance we can rejoin your gang with all the same benefits we had before.

Hi, 

No.

 

OK thanks bye.

 

That's why it was a stupid idea in the first place, well done Cameron.

[Sweep]

14 minutes ago, royal white said:

You said it’s going to happen so why wait longer to get in? It’s going to cost us whether it’s next year or next decade. What are we waiting for? Surely any party wants what’s best for the people.

The current lot don't seem to want to 😁

[royal white]

1 minute ago, DirtySanchez said:

The terms may be better 10/20 years down the line

But at this point in time I suspect they wont

Lets say you're chief negotiator for the EU, would you say 'come back in lads, all is forgiven and the terms are just the same' 

No I’d say these are our terms now it’s up to you. The people in charge here would then have to read those terms and work out what’s for the best. Unless you’d think it would be different? 

[Cheese]

1 minute ago, royal white said:

So those you gov polls are a load of shite then? Thanks for clearing that up 

No, the majority of the country clearly think Brexit was a mistake. That doesn't mean the majority would vote to Rejoin.

[royal white]

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

No, the majority of the country clearly think Brexit was a mistake. That doesn't mean the majority would vote to Rejoin.

Why if things are so bad? Look at spider as an example. 
 

 

[Sweep]

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

No, the majority of the country clearly think Brexit was a mistake. That doesn't mean the majority would vote to Rejoin.

It may be that people don't think it was a mistake, us leaving the EU, but they think it's been royally fucked up by those who we've elected to run the country (and that's both sides of the house, by the way)  -  so, and I can understand, if some people think that leaving the EU was the right thing to do (passports, fish, red buses etc) but think that it's been handled very badly indeed, which has caused and still it seems is causing issues all these years later.

Maybe a different Government can iron out some of these problems and form closer ties with the EU, and it'll end up OK within a few years. 

 

[Sweep]

4 minutes ago, royal white said:

Why if things are so bad? Look at spider as an example. 
 

 

I really do understand your point. I can't help but think you won't get an answer on here though. I think you're asking the wrong people

Although, as none of the major parties have released their manifestos yet (as far as I'm aware), you never know, there may be mention of rejoining in there. We'll have to wait a few more months to find out.....

[Cheese]

4 minutes ago, royal white said:

Why if things are so bad? Look at spider as an example. 

Because people like you still think Leaving the EU was a good thing, in spite of the vast amount of evidence that it was fucking shit 🤷‍♂️

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

I'm not sure it'd particularly be in the interests of the EU to make our re-entry as difficult as possible either

I suspect Starmer will lead us to a BRINO position in any event, but I doubt we'll ever be full members again - which is probably right given the strength of eurosceptic sentiment in the country - particularly as it seems to be less and less of an issue for the younger generations

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

Because people like you still think Leaving the EU was a good thing, in spite of the vast amount of evidence that it was fucking shit 🤷‍♂️

Not true.

"Evidence" used by both camps to justify their position. 

Usually as a result of narrow focused, selective analysis, and the complete lack of any data to reflect what would be the situation if we'd stayed in- simply because no one knows.

Folk will just read and take in what they want and moan, Instead of just getting on with life.

 

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Because people like you still think Leaving the EU was a good thing, in spite of the vast amount of evidence that it was fucking shit 🤷‍♂️

Then it would be an easy win for rejoining then wouldn’t it. 
 

Probably best off accepting that you won’t be going back to the EU. Maybe light a candle and post it on Twitter, you might get some sympathy there.