DazBob Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 2 minutes ago, deeane Koontz said: They had a chance to clear the decks when bumblefuck got put in the bin. But they opted for more of the same Problem is they're rotten to the core and have been for quite some time. Quote
MickyD Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 1 minute ago, deeane Koontz said: They had a chance to clear the decks when bumblefuck got put in the bin. But they opted they opted for more of the same When they were fumbling around for Boris’s replacement they were hardly crushed by an avalanche of potential PMs were they? It was very much a case of ‘who is least shit’ and they’ve got that wrong as well. The problem is, if you aren’t a Tory Elite with your private education and Oxbridge degree then you aren’t going to be looked at. Quote
kent_white Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 I know some of our posters are Conservative voters, and plan to be at the next election. I'm just curious - apart from not letting Labour (or anyone else take charge) - what is it about this party that makes you feel like they deserve another term? Presumably you must be looking at their record in office and reckoning that, on balance, it's been pretty good? And you must have some faith that things are going to get even better? I'm not taking the piss here, I'm just genuinely curious. Quote
mickbrown Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 2 hours ago, gonzo said: Yeah but Angela Raynor had a council house. Wonder if Bolty thinks she’d have a ‘chance’ Quote
DirtySanchez Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 5 minutes ago, kent_white said: I know some of our posters are Conservative voters, and plan to be at the next election. I'm just curious - apart from not letting Labour (or anyone else take charge) - what is it about this party that makes you feel like they deserve another term? Presumably you must be looking at their record in office and reckoning that, on balance, it's been pretty good? And you must have some faith that things are going to get even better? I'm not taking the piss here, I'm just genuinely curious. They'll just vote Tory because they always have Whilst criticising labour voters for voting labour because they always have Quote
DazBob Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 6 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: They'll just vote Tory because they always have Whilst criticising labour voters for voting labour because they always have Yep, too many (from both sides) will ALWAYS vote the same way, regardless ... as if it's their football team. Quote
Spider Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 I think only Bolty and Diver are the ones left that would pin their blue flag to the mast regardless. Bolty doesn’t count because he abandoned ship, and I think Diver has run out of any arguments to defend them and taken his ball home. There are grown men in their 50’s, wearing Dryrobes and crocs whilst driving convertibles around retail parks who would still vote Tory even if Sunak spent several hours a day kicking Labrador puppies face first into a jet engine. It’s all about image, they feel untouchable because they have £250k mortgages. Quote
Cheese Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 8 minutes ago, Spider said: I think only Bolty and Diver are the ones left that would pin their blue flag to the mast regardless. Bolty doesn’t count because he abandoned ship, and I think Diver has run out of any arguments to defend them and taken his ball home. There are grown men in their 50’s, wearing Dryrobes and crocs whilst driving convertibles around retail parks who would still vote Tory even if Sunak spent several hours a day kicking Labrador puppies face first into a jet engine. It’s all about image, they feel untouchable because they have £250k mortgages. Bolty has said several times that he'd vote for the Reform UK company. Quote
Jol_BWFC Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 1 hour ago, DazBob said: Yep, too many (from both sides) will ALWAYS vote the same way, regardless ... as if it's their football team. It’s embarrassing, like seeing people post on here about “winning” and “losing” the Brexit referendum. It was a decision about our country’s future, not the Old Firm derby. Quote
Spider Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 2 hours ago, Cheese said: Bolty has said several times that he'd vote for the Reform UK company. Like i say he abandoned ship, so it’s irrelevant anyway. Quote
jayjayoghani Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 7 hours ago, Traf said: On this they do probably do have a defence IMO. The implication is that they live in their flat while doing MP work. He has a mortgage on that place so is it fair that he has to pay a mortgage while doing his job, away from his home constituency? That said £3200 pm for a place at taxpayers expense seems steep even by London standards. I think the government should own 600 one bed flats near parliament and completely eradicate this issue. Quote
Not in Crawley Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 10 hours ago, bolty58 said: Not me matey. I'd be voting Reform. Apparently the only true Conservative party around in the UK at the moment. Get bent you Aussie OAP Quote
Not in Crawley Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 3 hours ago, kent_white said: I know some of our posters are Conservative voters, and plan to be at the next election. I'm just curious - apart from not letting Labour (or anyone else take charge) - what is it about this party that makes you feel like they deserve another term? Presumably you must be looking at their record in office and reckoning that, on balance, it's been pretty good? And you must have some faith that things are going to get even better? I'm not taking the piss here, I'm just genuinely curious. You are being too nice - it's been a shit show and it's being called out. Quote
only1swanny Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 1 hour ago, jayjayoghani said: On this they do probably do have a defence IMO. The implication is that they live in their flat while doing MP work. He has a mortgage on that place so is it fair that he has to pay a mortgage while doing his job, away from his home constituency? That said £3200 pm for a place at taxpayers expense seems steep even by London standards. I think the government should own 600 one bed flats near parliament and completely eradicate this issue. Have often thought this would cause issues, and having flats nearby would eliminate a lot of them. Travel back to your constituency and home each weekend etc. Fairly certain our local MP has no idea what Bolton looks like. Quote
bolty58 Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 7 hours ago, Jol_BWFC said: It’s embarrassing, like seeing people post on here about “winning” and “losing” the Brexit referendum. It was a decision about our country’s future, not the Old Firm derby. The new Remoaner tack. Bollocks. Quote
bolty58 Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 8 hours ago, kent_white said: I know some of our posters are Conservative voters, and plan to be at the next election. I'm just curious - apart from not letting Labour (or anyone else take charge) - what is it about this party that makes you feel like they deserve another term? Presumably you must be looking at their record in office and reckoning that, on balance, it's been pretty good? And you must have some faith that things are going to get even better? I'm not taking the piss here, I'm just genuinely curious. Ignore the halfwits. Sometimes it is about voting for the least worst. There is your answer. Never, ever put power in the hands of socialists if you can avoid it. Aspiration killers and border vandals. Quote
Duck Egg Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 8 hours ago, jayjayoghani said: I think the government should own 600 one bed flats near parliament and completely eradicate this issue. I always thought we missed a trick not doing this with the Olympic Village after 2012. A former Bolton MP I knew of, made an absolute killing with the accommodation they had down there. Subsidised by the taxpayer while they were in office then sold it for an eye-watering amount once they left and trousered the profit. Like most of them do. Quote
Spider Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 4 hours ago, bolty58 said: Ignore the halfwits. Sometimes it is about voting for the least worst. There is your answer. Never, ever put power in the hands of socialists if you can avoid it. Aspiration killers and border vandals. Starmer has killed his own aspirations to such a degree that he’s a millionaire Quote
Not in Crawley Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 37 minutes ago, Spider said: Starmer has killed his own aspirations to such a degree that he’s a millionaire I used to think it was just his age and the fact he lives isolated from the rest of the world. Now I just think he's numb as fuck. Quote
kent_white Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 4 hours ago, bolty58 said: Ignore the halfwits. Sometimes it is about voting for the least worst. There is your answer. Never, ever put power in the hands of socialists if you can avoid it. Aspiration killers and border vandals. If that's the case though - wouldn't it make sense to vote for the Tories again, tactically thinking I mean? I can't see Reform UK having the clout to keep Labour out. Mind you - I've been wrong plenty of times before! 🤣 Quote
Sweep Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 14 hours ago, Spider said: I think only Bolty and Diver are the ones left that would pin their blue flag to the mast regardless. Bolty doesn’t count because he abandoned ship, and I think Diver has run out of any arguments to defend them and taken his ball home. There are grown men in their 50’s, wearing Dryrobes and crocs whilst driving convertibles around retail parks who would still vote Tory even if Sunak spent several hours a day kicking Labrador puppies face first into a jet engine. It’s all about image, they feel untouchable because they have £250k mortgages. Even Bolty has deserted them, but he's lurched even further to the right, and reckons he'd vote Reform Quote
Sweep Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 5 hours ago, bolty58 said: Ignore the halfwits. Sometimes it is about voting for the least worst. There is your answer. Never, ever put power in the hands of socialists if you can avoid it. Aspiration killers and border vandals. The current lot are hardly the polar opposite of this are they? Quote
Farrelli Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/may/15/brexit-border-it-outages-delay-import-of-perishable-items-to-uk-by-up-to-20-hours #taking back control Quote
Traf Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 15 minutes ago, Farrelli said: https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/may/15/brexit-border-it-outages-delay-import-of-perishable-items-to-uk-by-up-to-20-hours #taking back control Just more lies from Project Fear, innit? Quote
gonzo Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 52 minutes ago, Sweep said: The current lot are hardly the polar opposite of this are they? Are we not at record highs of illegal immigration? After 14 years of non border wrecker government? Quote
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