Deserves its own thread...

Just read the latest bit of waffle. Sounds like he’s trying to talk himself out of a job.

11 minutes ago, deane koontz said:

ffs

Soz.

7 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Soz.

I only cried a little 😭

10 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Because Nolan has had 2 jobs (Orient and Notts County), and arguably left both clubs in worse positions than he found them.  Ricketts has had 2 jobs (Wrexham and Shrews) and has improved both clubs positions (and a decent cup run or 2).  And listening to him talk gives confidence that he knows what he's doing, calm and assured.  

Kevin Nolan | Managerial record by team and tenure

Team	From	To	Record					Ref.
			P	W	D	L	Win %
Leyton Orient	21 January 2016	12 April 2016	15	7	2	6	46.7	[67][73][107]
Notts County	12 January 2017	26 August 2018	84	35	23	26	41.7	[108]
Total			99	42	25	32	42.4

Sam Ricketts | Managerial record by team and tenure

Team	From	To	Record
			P	W	D	L	Win %
Wrexham	2 May 2018	3 December 2018	24	13	8	3	54.2
Shrewsbury Town	3 December 2018	Present	78	23	28	27	29.5
Total			102	36	36	30	35.3

I don’t think the above records back up what you say about either Nolan or Ricketts managerial careers! I also think Nolan was harshly treated at both Orient & Notts.

Edited June 5, 20206 yr by Ros Coe

18 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I don't want us to appoint Nolan, although I think you're being unfair on his managerial record. The point is that if Nolan would be a gamble then surely so would Ricketts. I was impressed by his demeanour and how his team operated when they played us, and like you I suspect he has something about him, but he's barely two years into his managerial career.

(And if I were to be as harsh in my argument as you are with Nolan, I might point out that Shrewsbury Town are currently one place lower than they were when he took over 🙂)

I agree I was being a bit harsh on Nolan, and I bow to your greater knowledge of Shrewsbury's respective league positions!  But Ricketts comes across, with his greater experience as well as demeanour, as an "established" manager with at least a reasonable track record.  Kev comes across as a rookie so far, he may be a good manager in the making but he feels like more of a gamble than Ricketts at this stage.

10 hours ago, Ros Coe said:

Kevin Nolan | Managerial record by team and tenure

Team	From	To	Record					Ref.
			P	W	D	L	Win %
Leyton Orient	21 January 2016	12 April 2016	15	7	2	6	46.7	[67][73][107]
Notts County	12 January 2017	26 August 2018	84	35	23	26	41.7	[108]
Total			99	42	25	32	42.4

Sam Ricketts | Managerial record by team and tenure

Team	From	To	Record
			P	W	D	L	Win %
Wrexham	2 May 2018	3 December 2018	24	13	8	3	54.2
Shrewsbury Town	3 December 2018	Present	78	23	28	27	29.5
Total			102	36	36	30	35.3

I don’t think the above records back up what you say about either Nolan or Ricketts managerial careers! I also think Nolan was harshly treated at both Orient & Notts.

Good stats, fair point, I admit I thought Shrewsbury were a bit higher in the table till I just checked!  I would say the Notts County stint for Nolan was at a club that was expected to do well in that division (as with Wrexham for Ricketts); Shrewsbury arent expected to compete at the top end of Div 1 realistically.  Anyway I'll take it back based purely on stats, and leave it that its my hunch that Ricketts will make a decent lower level manager.

Nolan was terrific for us and who knows he may cut it, however I wouldn’t want to take that chance and him become another bad appointment and potentially get dogs and a shit load of grief 

looks like time is up 
 

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/18512289.bolton-ready-make-decision-keith-hills-future-manager/

That reads like it's pretty much certain.

1 minute ago, Marc505 said:

That reads like it's pretty much certain.

Yep, Iles & Hill chatting at the Dulux store.

Aye sounds like he’s clearing is desk 

5 hours ago, Mr Grey said:

Im gonna miss the shit peaky blinder chino wearing onion peeling fucker.

Tactics 1/10

Clobber 0/10

Onions 0/10

Harsh. He might actually know his onions!

Certainly had me in tears some of the time...

Ringing endorsement for Hill and Flitcroft from Craig Davies in a BA article.

I think we need a fresh start though.

8 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Ringing endorsement for Hill and Flitcroft from Craig Davies in a BA article.

I think we need a fresh start though.

worth a punt? released by mansfield

10 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Ringing endorsement for Hill and Flitcroft from Craig Davies in a BA article.

I think we need a fresh start though.

Interesting first impression he had of Hill.  That chimes with a few things I've heard previously 

We don't have the time for Hill to piss people off for 12 months before they finally think he's a reasonable sort of character. 

The club is going downhill, has been for some time and needs to slam on the brakes before we end up going any lower. Get rid and sooner rather than later

 

29 minutes ago, Dr Faustus said:

worth a punt? released by mansfield

I would take him back 

Could be more down to  cost cutting getting rid of hill and flitcroft then giving the job to some one already at the club David lee  

1 hour ago, Farnywhite said:

Could be more down to  cost cutting getting rid of hill and flitcroft then giving the job to some one already at the club David lee  

Hope not.

1 hour ago, Farnywhite said:

Could be more down to  cost cutting getting rid of hill and flitcroft then giving the job to some one already at the club David lee  

Can't see that being the case, they were probably on peanuts to start with.

20 minutes ago, DomRepWanderer said:

Can't see that being the case, they were probably on peanuts to start with.

For sure 

It doesn't matter who you give it to, within reason.

 

I think it'll be Brown.

7 minutes ago, Horwich said:

It doesn't matter who you give it to, within reason.

 

I agree. There are good managers and bad managers, but even the good ones struggle to improve things if the resources aren't available.

The majority of them, though, are average and do a decent enough job with what they have.

Gone 

David Lee Shirley? 

Especially with Dev squad gone.