1 hour ago, Farnywhite said:

I had same problem Saturday couldn’t find it on dodgy box so tried to pay for it and it was saying next game Crewe took it left it to late to purchase someone else commentated the same on Saturday 

That was me. Exactly the same issue as Kent had tonight, left it late and, other than season passes, only the Crewe game for tonight was showing. I asked on here and somebody supplied a link which shown the Bradford game but as it was twenty minutes into the game already I didn't bother.

It really needs to be slicker as the club are losing revenue when this happens.

Shit defensively, JW red label eased the pain 

45 minutes ago, tkonion said:

That was me. Exactly the same issue as Kent had tonight, left it late and, other than season passes, only the Crewe game for tonight was showing. I asked on here and somebody supplied a link which shown the Bradford game but as it was twenty minutes into the game already I didn't bother.

It really needs to be slicker as the club are losing revenue when this happens.

Whats your internet speed? 🥴🙄

1 hour ago, Rizlar said:

If this continues into the first few league games will IE change the system like he did at Barrow.

Any idea what system he changed it to?

Back 4 please IE until you get wing backs worthy of the name. 

13 minutes ago, Blondi said:

Any idea what system he changed it to?

He changed from a 4-2-3-1 I believe, to the formation we currently play with the 3 at the back. 

Overall, it was better than Saturday and I expect next Saturday to be better still.
It will come, if we give it time. 

Jesus Christ, we've been fucking shit for years, a few more weeks won't kill us.

Just now, meanderson93 said:

He changed from a 4-2-3-1 I believe, to the formation we currently play with the 3 at the back. 

Correct 

 

It's not the defenders that are the issue, most very capable at this level, plenty of experience, big strong and quick. It's the system they're being asked to play already being exposed 2 real games that is. 

By asking your central defenders to drive beyond the midfield and be the catalysts for attacks it's always going to leave you exposed and I really don't think it's necessary. I get the idea, it's to overload defences and deep blocks to make them commit on an overloaded side which opens gaps elsewhere. 

In all honesty though I just want my 6'5" centre half to win the ball back and give it to a midfielder or a rapid wing back and let them do the fancy stuff first. Let's start keeping clean sheets and dominating teams into having to sit incredibly deep and then we can bring back the idea of marauding centre half's dragging 3 players out of position in the opposition's defensive formation. Right now I want to see the simple stuff working before we reinvent the wheel. 

Edited September 8, 20205 yr by meanderson93

Lots of positives from tonight's performance, we'll play a lot worse than Crewe this season, when it clicks & they gel further, can see a good run coming.

24 minutes ago, meanderson93 said:

It's not the defenders that are the issue, most very capable at this level, plenty of experience, big strong and quick. It's the system they're being asked to play already being exposed 2 real games that is. 

By asking your central defenders to drive beyond the midfield and be the catalysts for attacks it's always going to leave you exposed and I really don't think it's necessary. I get the idea, it's to overload defences and deep blocks to make them commit on an overloaded side which opens gaps elsewhere. 

In all honesty though I just want my 6'5" centre half to win the ball back and give it to a midfielder or a rapid wing back and let them do the fancy stuff first. Let's start keeping clean sheets and dominating teams into having to sit incredibly deep and then we can bring back the idea of marauding centre half's dragging 3 players out of position in the opposition's defensive formation. Right now I want to see the simple stuff working before we reinvent the wheel. 

Good post, point well made.

2 hours ago, Eddie said:

Surprised by that Stevie. We’ve looked very shakey at the back but I’d say we’ve played more football, created more chances, and had more of a plan in this second half than we have in the past 2 seasons combined.

Agreed. Stevie was being very harsh.

1 hour ago, Horwich said:

Whats your internet speed? 🥴🙄

Incredibly fast as it happens, just measured it at 333 mbps. I don't think you really wanted to know that but not sure what point you were making.

Is it not incredibly obvious that we need a holding midfield player to sit in front of the defence to cut out the through balls ? 
 

I do not even play FIFA and I have it sorted. 

33 minutes ago, meanderson93 said:

It's not the defenders that are the issue, most very capable at this level, plenty of experience, big strong and quick. It's the system they're being asked to play already being exposed 2 real games that is. 

By asking your central defenders to drive beyond the midfield and be the catalysts for attacks it's always going to leave you exposed and I really don't think it's necessary. I get the idea, it's to overload defences and deep blocks to make them commit on an overloaded side which opens gaps elsewhere. 

In all honesty though I just want my 6'5" centre half to win the ball back and give it to a midfielder or a rapid wing back and let them do the fancy stuff first. Let's start keeping clean sheets and dominating teams into having to sit incredibly deep and then we can bring back the idea of marauding centre half's dragging 3 players out of position in the opposition's defensive formation. Right now I want to see the simple stuff working before we reinvent the wheel. 

He's starting as he means to go on. This is exactly the time we should be playing like that because these are nothing games with no league points available.  If you couldn't see an improvement on Saturday then God help you.

With the defense I'd personally like to see how Jones would do on the right of the back three where Brock played tonight with Hickman as the direct attacking wing back based on the last two games, you don't need every centre back to be 6'4. Jones isn't as ambitious getting down the byline, looks to turn back to keep possession with safety in mind but is very tidy & composed with being a former centre midfielder which would suit him bringing the ball out of the three he would also find himself in familiar positions as he would playing as a right back when the defense splits. For our wingbacks they are so important we need them to be our main service providers and Hickman is very dangerous due to the pace & crossing variation in his game. Gordon will start due to fitness but Mascoll may be better suited given the chance we'll have to see.

We might lose a few games by being too open this year. But I tell you something we will absolutely terrorize a few teams this season too. Early goal and we will set about some of them in a big way. Been a long time since I’ve even thought like that never mind expected it. 

Just now, Escobarp said:

We might lose a few games by being too open this year. But I tell you something we will absolutely terrorize a few teams this season too. Early goal and we will set about some of them in a big way. Been a long time since I’ve even thought like that never mind expected it. 

Aye. It's worth bearing in mind we were playing a team from a higher divsion tonight, as hard as that is to comprehend given it was Crewe.

The lack of defensive shape out of possession is a massive problem for us though.

I think Evatt's system works when we dominate possession. Tonight we didn't / weren't able to do that.

5 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Aye. It's worth bearing in mind we were playing a team from a higher divsion tonight, as hard as that is to comprehend given it was Crewe.

The lack of defensive shape out of possession is a massive problem for us though.

I think Evatt's system works when we dominate possession. Tonight we didn't / weren't able to do that.

As has been said we will play plenty much worse the Crewe and Bradford too.
Win Saturday and it’s all systems go 

These defenders & wing backs are mostly inexperienced & new to each other, playing a new system. It's much too soon to be writing any of them, or the system, off.

7 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

As has been said we will play plenty much worse the Crewe and Bradford too.
Win Saturday and it’s all systems go 

Bradford just finished 9th in the 4th Division They are dogshit

1 minute ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

Bradford just finished 9th in the 4th Division They are dogshit

Two positions higher than dogshit gets in the playoffs in this league 🙂

6 minutes ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

Bradford just finished 9th in the 4th Division They are dogshit

So by definition there are plenty worse than Bradford in this division

Now please fuck off and choke on an Eccles cake you weapon