Meanwhile in Ukraine

[Winchester White]

8 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

He's agreed to a state visit to Russia and advocates for their return to the G8 

And the negotiations haven't even started

Good luck, Zelensky

The bloke is a fucking lunatic to trust a word Putin says. But then he doesn't need to as Kompromat has taken care of that.

[Zico]

1 hour ago, Dimron said:

 Don’t give them any land, just like we wouldn’t. 

It's a civil war, half the population are pro Kyiv and the other half pro Moscow... nobody's land, it's a buffer zone where east meets west... demilitarisation is the answer

 

I thought before all this started the Donbas and Crimea were Ukraine 

Until Russia occupied them though brute force 

How is it nobody's land?

 

[royal white]

When do we see our bills coming down? 

[Sweep]

5 minutes ago, royal white said:

When do we see our bills coming down? 

I think we all know the answer to that...never. In fact wholesale prices are currently going up again. Even when the war is over, the energy providers will find a reason/excuse not to reduce pricing, because they're wankers. 

[Winchester White]

2 minutes ago, Zico said:

I thought before all this started the Donbas and Crimea were Ukraine 

Until Russia occupied them though brute force 

How is it nobody's land?

 

Well, when Russia invaded Crimea I think Obama was in power and he did fuck all. Then Putin went into Donbas with his "little green men" and unstablised the region and held sham elections.

Dimron is completely wrong to suggest it is a kind of civil war in the east, it is clearly not.

[Winchester White]

Just now, Sweep said:

I think we all know the answer to that...never. In fact wholesale prices are currently going up again. Even when the war is over, the energy providers will find a reason/excuse not to reduce pricing, because they're wankers. 

It doesn't help we over rely on gas and where do you think most of that comes from?

We need to invest internally in infrastructure and spend well. But we've lost our engineering skills background in large projects. If France can build power stations why can't we anymore?

[Dimron]

8 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Well, when Russia invaded Crimea I think Obama was in power and he did fuck all. Then Putin went into Donbas with his "little green men" and unstablised the region and held sham elections.

Dimron is completely wrong to suggest it is a kind of civil war in the east, it is clearly not.

Yanukovych was pro Russia and came to power in 2010 owing to support in Eastern Ukraine and virtually none in the West. He now lives in exile in Moscow

[Sweep]

10 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

It doesn't help we over rely on gas and where do you think most of that comes from?

We need to invest internally in infrastructure and spend well. But we've lost our engineering skills background in large projects. If France can build power stations why can't we anymore?

We are shit at major infrastructure builds, and we have a piss poor workforce 🙁

[Casino]

On 12/02/2025 at 22:13, Spider said:

Trump will do whatever Putin wants.

He just won’t realise he’s doing it the thick cunt

Hes sticking a big fat target on his back

We might not have to put up with him for long

[Casino]

2 hours ago, Dimron said:

 Don’t give them any land, just like we wouldn’t. 

It's a civil war, half the population are pro Kyiv and the other half pro Moscow... nobody's land, it's a buffer zone where east meets west... demilitarisation is the answer

 

Half?

[bolty58]

7 hours ago, Casino said:

Hes sticking a big fat target on his back

We might not have to put up with him for long

Utter bullshit. He is solving another problem none of the wet wipes could even get close to.

Your hopes for an assassination are sick.

[bolty58]

12 hours ago, Dimron said:

I recall from the first campaign against Hilary there were quite well founded accusations of Putin having footage of a younger Trump in a Moscow hotel room enjoying water sports with some prozzies...

FFS. I've opened the Conspiracy Theory thread by mistake.

Anti Trumpers becoming hysterical. They don't like achievers and have a preference for tame and lames.

Meanwhile, the leader of the free world will continue to be an effective peacemaker.

[bolty58]

10 hours ago, Dimron said:

 Don’t give them any land, just like we wouldn’t. 

It's a civil war, half the population are pro Kyiv and the other half pro Moscow... nobody's land, it's a buffer zone where east meets west... demilitarisation is the answer

 

Good knowledge. Unfortunately the majority on here simply swallow everything the BBC wants them to.

[bolty58]

9 hours ago, kent_white said:

BBC. Stop there and go no further.

[bolty58]

8 hours ago, Dimron said:

Yanukovych was pro Russia and came to power in 2010 owing to support in Eastern Ukraine and virtually none in the West. He now lives in exile in Moscow

All factual which may not sit well with some. Tell him it's 'destabilised' will you FFS.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

We know the recent history of Ukraine, and inevitably those areas bordering Russia will have a greater number of Russia leaning people.

The country is still independent though, and was gradually moving towards a more open, democratic society.

It may not have been perfect in the nation as that transition took place, but that isn't an excuse for Russia to launch an unofficial invasion there almost 11 years ago.

The Eastern areas have been fucked over as a result, followed by the full invasion since.

There is simply no justification for Putin's actions whatsoever.

All that said, looking for a way to end the war is reasonable. 

Nothing has happened as yet; commentators throwing their arms in the air maybe premature in their actions.

If and when anything concrete is revealed, we can judge then. 

Trump is a twat, but it may take a twat to deal with an even bigger twat.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

9 hours ago, Winchester White said:

It doesn't help we over rely on gas and where do you think most of that comes from?

We need to invest internally in infrastructure and spend well. But we've lost our engineering skills background in large projects. If France can build power stations why can't we anymore?

If by we, you mean the UK, then not Russia.

The rest OK, but we can and are building nuclear power facilities- we just chose to go a different route some time ago, which was a mistake gradually being rectified.

Nuclear also requires a lot of land which France has far more of than we do.

[Bertie]

54 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

FFS. I've opened the Conspiracy Theory thread by mistake.

Anti Trumpers becoming hysterical. They don't like achievers and have a preference for tame and lames.

Meanwhile, the leader of the free world will continue to be an effective peacemaker.

5 overnight hysterical posts on this topic alone of absolute nonsense from you.  Shameful. 

[green genie]

36 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

If by we, you mean the UK, then not Russia.

The rest OK, but we can and are building nuclear power facilities- we just chose to go a different route some time ago, which was a mistake gradually being rectified.

Nuclear also requires a lot of land which France has far more of than we do.

Apparently a company has discovered a gas field below Lincolnshire that would supply all of UK for a decade. 
 

Nuclear power won’t be large going forward with the work Rolls Royce is doing 

[Winchester White]

10 hours ago, Dimron said:

Yanukovych was pro Russia and came to power in 2010 owing to support in Eastern Ukraine and virtually none in the West. He now lives in exile in Moscow

Indeed. It is a LOT more complex than that though and Russian meddling and interference ever since the soviet collapse has a lot to do with it.

[London Wanderer]

2 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Utter bullshit. He is solving another problem none of the wet wipes could even get close to.

Those wet wipes fighting on the front line to protect their land

 Putin expected to take the whole country & install a pro Russian government.

 If not for a united effort from Europe, the UK & the US, we’d be looking at a proxy Russian government.

Fckn wet wipes 😂 

You’ve become a Putin supporter fella

[Sweep]

2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

If by we, you mean the UK, then not Russia.

The rest OK, but we can and are building nuclear power facilities- we just chose to go a different route some time ago, which was a mistake gradually being rectified.

Nuclear also requires a lot of land which France has far more of than we do.

France does have plenty of land - but let's not pretend we don't. We just need to start building stuff in areas that people don't want us to build in. The greenbelt and "areas of outstanding natural beauty" will just have to suffer if we want energy independance.

Sadly, as has been proved this winter, we can't rely on turbines, as they've generated absolutely fuck all (in the grand scheme of things). Nuclear is definitely the way to go, as well as trying to harness tidal power, which we still can't do efficiently. 

[bolty58]

5 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

 

Trump is a twat, but it may take a twat to deal with an even bigger twat.

I don't agree with your choice of words but the general gist is there.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

16 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

I don't agree with your choice of words but the general gist is there.

Don't like the fella one bit.

Doesn't mean he/his government won't manage to sort soms things out.

Equally, I think it will damage things elsewhere. 

[Dimron]

9 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Good knowledge. Unfortunately the majority on here simply swallow everything the BBC wants them to.

Owing to my interest in aeroplanes and flying I have been following events since a Russian SAM was fired by Ukrainian separists and brought down a Malaysian airliner, well before the invasion. Also my interest was fired by the fact I had a very pleasant holiday in Kiev and Odessa back in the 70s and have fond memories of playing chess with the old men (i never won)