Football Ventures

[tomski]

Never had good owners in my lifetime. I’ll judge these further down the line 

[desperado]

1 minute ago, tomski said:

Never had good owners in my lifetime. I’ll judge these further down the line 

I understand the skepticism with our past ownership

But, in terms of footballing decisions I don’t think FV have got much wrong have they? 

[tomski]

3 minutes ago, desperado said:

I understand the skepticism with our past ownership

But, in terms of footballing decisions I don’t think FV have got much wrong have they? 

Not yet. Like I said this is 35 years of BWFC supporting that says I’m not relaxed on them yet

[desperado]

Just now, tomski said:

Not yet. Like I said this is 35 years of BWFC supporting that says I’m not relaxed on them yet

Fair enough. We are long in the tooth to know that BWFC’s situation can flip like the toss of a coin!

But these are as good a set of owners that I can remember. 

When you look for the qualities you want to see in a set of owners; honesty, integrity, ambition and loyalty, then we seem to have that in abundance with Sharon and her team. 

[Traf]

I’d say I’m generally pro-FV, but I’ve more minor irritations/niggles with the club than I had 3 months ago.

[Eddie]

9 hours ago, tomski said:

Never had good owners in my lifetime. I’ll judge these further down the line 

Suppose ‘good’ can mean plenty of things, and I know it wasn’t the fairytale ending, but Eddie Davies?? Question the running from the management but saying he wasn’t a good owner seems pretty harsh.

I also think these lot are top drawer - the difficulty will come in the same way, how do you exit well.

[Mounts Kipper]

FV doing an unbelievable job on the infrastructure, rebuilding of the club and revolutionising the ethos within the club, funding for player recruitment is also being made available as and when required, however you can only fully judge FV at the end of their tenure once they pass the club on and what debt they leave and who they’ve decided to pass the club onto. As it stands I’ll give them 9/10. 

[Leyther_Matt]

10 hours ago, Wanderlust said:

Aren't the buses and caterers subbies?

 

10 hours ago, Alf Hartigan said:

caterers are. seems like they've got different subbies for different stands.

Concourse catering has been in-house for a couple of years now, but obviously is quite reliant on agency staff (particularly at this time of year when there aren’t any local students looking for work)

[athywhite1958]

They need to get some holes in the West Stand roof filled in, rain pissing through all second half, felt sorry for those directly underneath it, we only get a few splashes

[tomski]

1 hour ago, Eddie said:

Suppose ‘good’ can mean plenty of things, and I know it wasn’t the fairytale ending, but Eddie Davies?? Question the running from the management but saying he wasn’t a good owner seems pretty harsh.

I also think these lot are top drawer - the difficulty will come in the same way, how do you exit well.

I certainly don’t see the Davies days like others do. Going over old ground but I’ll stick to my original thought process of never having a good owner. Good times we’re had no doubt but I think you have to look at start to finish on a tenure.

I’m aligned on the new owners but will need longer to see if they land what I think they will. You can exit well and that will be the interesting part as I don’t see these being around for years and years. Let’s hope they change the trend.

[W.cramp]

23 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said:

They need to get some holes in the West Stand roof filled in, rain pissing through all second half, felt sorry for those directly underneath it, we only get a few splashes

Wasnt this supposed to be on the list of jobs to do.   Probably pointless but if somebody in that area contacted the club, would they get a response?  Dunno , maybe worth a try.

[athywhite1958]

2 minutes ago, W.cramp said:

Wasnt this supposed to be on the list of jobs to do.   Probably pointless but if somebody in that area contacted the club, would they get a response?  Dunno , maybe worth a try.

It will be on the list of 'to do' jobs

[nantwichwhite]

There is a lot to be positive about.  There has been substantial investment. Although the owners must be thinking the club has to wash it’s own face in some areas and as a consequence some prices have increased. Recruitment in hospitality is difficult to say the least and is totally out of the club’s control.

 

Having said this after the Anderson debacle it is hard to give total faith in any owner. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Look at the crowds last season and this.

Look at where we were when they came in and now.

Will every ownere be able to please every fan?

Frankly, they've worked miracles. 

[Roger_Dubuis]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Look at the crowds last season and this

15,000 season tickets were sold at cheaper prices than 1997 Bolton season tickets.The low prices are the overwhleming reason for the high sales.

There are 2  negative consequences of this

1.Areas of the East Stand Upper resembled the play area of a rough pub's beer garden yesterday.Lazy, selfish adults not controlling unruly kids.And a family of 6 is there for the price of one adult and a kid at Barnsley.There are big gaps in the North Stand where these types should be.

2.Such low  prices only pays for 3rd Division players.There is no improvement in quality from last season's play off losing team.

[Dr. Feelgood]

19 minutes ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

15,000 season tickets were sold at cheaper prices than 1997 Bolton season tickets.The low prices are the overwhleming reason for the high sales.

Shouldn't you be commenting on Stretford or something ?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

57 minutes ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

15,000 season tickets were sold at cheaper prices than 1997 Bolton season tickets.The low prices are the overwhleming reason for the high sales.

There are 2  negative consequences of this

1.Areas of the East Stand Upper resembled the play area of a rough pub's beer garden yesterday.Lazy, selfish adults not controlling unruly kids.And a family of 6 is there for the price of one adult and a kid at Barnsley.There are big gaps in the North Stand where these types should be.

2.Such low  prices only pays for 3rd Division players.There is no improvement in quality from last season's play off losing team.

I'm sure their research and consequent business management is the reason for our crowd increases. Together with on field success.

Put them up and you still expect income to increase?

Lots of people also mean more additional sales of ale etc.

The kids thing- perhaps you could have a word and get them back into the family stand.

Total revenue and profit is what yields money to spend on players, and that is increasing as part of the sustainable approach. This suggests to me that we're doing the right thing, and although it may take a bit longer, the boom and bust approach doesn't last, as we've seen.

 

[FrancisFogarty]

12 hours ago, Traf said:

I’d say I’m generally pro-FV, but I’ve more minor irritations/niggles with the club than I had 3 months ago.

That's where I'm at. She's still got plenty of credit has Sharon, but I'm beginning to see the sharper, more business like side of her and FV. Little things, but weighing a bit on my mind.

We're still in good hands with Sharon, but I'd like to see a statement setting out the reasons for some of their decisions and how are we as the Wanderers Family benefitting.

 

[RUREADY2ROLL]

1 hour ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

15,000 season tickets were sold at cheaper prices than 1997 Bolton season tickets.The low prices are the overwhleming reason for the high sales.

There are 2  negative consequences of this

1.Areas of the East Stand Upper resembled the play area of a rough pub's beer garden yesterday.Lazy, selfish adults not controlling unruly kids.And a family of 6 is there for the price of one adult and a kid at Barnsley.There are big gaps in the North Stand where these types should be.

2.Such low  prices only pays for 3rd Division players.There is no improvement in quality from last season's play off losing team.

I am in the East Stand Upper and no issue whatsoever with the people in there. The 20,000 crowd is also not down to cheap prices.

And we are much better than the team that failed against Barnsley with much more strength in depth. We can’t bring in high quality players on big salaries as that would rock the boat.

We are going in the right direction and may get automatic promotion this season

 

[Mounts Kipper]

1 hour ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

15,000 season tickets were sold at cheaper prices than 1997 Bolton season tickets.The low prices are the overwhleming reason for the high sales.

There are 2  negative consequences of this

1.Areas of the East Stand Upper resembled the play area of a rough pub's beer garden yesterday.Lazy, selfish adults not controlling unruly kids.And a family of 6 is there for the price of one adult and a kid at Barnsley.There are big gaps in the North Stand where these types should be.

2.Such low  prices only pays for 3rd Division players.There is no improvement in quality from last season's play off losing team.

Can’t agree with this statement in fact it’s complete rubbish, the squad is bigger, the squad depth is significantly deeper and better and we’ve more match winners than we had last year. 

[Roger_Dubuis]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I'm sure their research and consequent business management is the reason for our crowd increases. Together with on field success.

Put them up and you still expect income to increase?

Lots of people also mean more additional sales of ale etc.

The kids thing- perhaps you could have a word and get them back into the family stand.

Total revenue and profit is what yields money to spend on players, and that is increasing as part of the sustainable approach. This suggests to me that we're doing the right thing, and although it may take a bit longer, the boom and bust approach doesn't last, as we've seen.

 

What we will be doing is moving 4 season tickets to a diferent area of the stand or stadium next weekI don't know if there will be  an admin charge tor moving the seats, if so that is another hidden cost to pricing tickets so low to attract scroty families to what used to be  expensive seats

[Roger_Dubuis]

21 minutes ago, RUREADY2ROLL said:

I am in the East Stand Upper and no issue whatsoever with the people in there. 

 

You were lucky them.We had new families  in front and behind us and they were both  bad uns.

[ZiggyStardust]

21 minutes ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

You were lucky them.We had new families  in front and behind us and they were both  bad uns.

As it’s holiday season still, maybe they were just borrowing absent friends tickets ?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

3 hours ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

What we will be doing is moving 4 season tickets to a diferent area of the stand or stadium next weekI don't know if there will be  an admin charge tor moving the seats, if so that is another hidden cost to pricing tickets so low to attract scroty families to what used to be  expensive seats

Clutching at straws there- a possible  cost to 4 people, who choose to move.

I get why you may want to move if uncle 'nob 'ed has arrived next door, but it's hardly something an owner can be expected to envisage. 

Perhaps go in the North Stand.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

13 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Clutching at straws there- a possible  cost to 4 people, who choose to move.

I get why you may want to move if uncle 'nob 'ed has arrived next door, but it's hardly something an owner can be expected to envisage. 

Perhaps go in the North Stand.

Broadly speaking perhaps, but they did choose to stop selling tickets in blocks IL1 and IL2