burnden Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 Evatt is stupid for letting dempsey continue playing with a fractured back Santos and Maghoma back in. Mendes Gomes still out. Ashworth got a knock Quote
L/H White Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, burnden said: Evatt is stupid for letting dempsey continue playing with a fractured back Santos and Maghoma back in. Mendes Gomes still out. Ashworth got a knock aye, and theres folk who believe he isn't rushing Bod back same manager who's rushed both toal and santos back in the past idiot Edited October 19, 2023 by L/H White Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 16 minutes ago, burnden said: Evatt is stupid for letting dempsey continue playing with a fractured back Santos and Maghoma back in. Mendes Gomes still out. Ashworth got a knock I would assume that the medical teams cleared it, but his performance levels alone said it wasn't worth it. Get him right then bring him back. Quote
Greg_BWFC Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 We really do have some bad luck with injuries. Hopefully Morley and Maghoma (if fit), can step up. Quote
Farnywhite Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 2 hours ago, burnden said: Evatt is stupid for letting dempsey continue playing with a fractured back Santos and Maghoma back in. Mendes Gomes still out. Ashworth got a knock So after being told the cavalry is coming it isn’t  Quote
paulhanley Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 These things wouldn't matter so much if we hadn't gone beyond the transfer window with an inadequately sized squad. Quote
Rizlar Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, paulhanley said: These things wouldn't matter so much if we hadn't gone beyond the transfer window with an inadequately sized squad. Agree with this we needed 2 more midfielders at least.  . Quote
Cheese Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Farnywhite said: So after being told the cavalry is coming it isn’t  Santos, Maghoma, Jones all back for Saturday, Gomes to follow shortly. Who else were you expecting? Edited October 19, 2023 by Cheese Quote
DirtySanchez Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 13 minutes ago, Rizlar said: Agree with this we needed 2 more midfielders at least.  . Gomez and Maghoma fill that bracket Would you want two more midfielders on top of that? Quote
Dr. Feelgood Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, DazBob said: FFS, that is bad news. Mind, it does seem he's been struggling of late. Wonder if this month off is related to an injury he's been carrying? If he has a vertebrae fracture it's not an unreasonable assumption. Edited October 19, 2023 by Dr. Feelgood Quote
Rizlar Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 1 hour ago, DirtySanchez said: Gomez and Maghoma fill that bracket Would you want two more midfielders on top of that? Gomez is more of a winger it’s DM we need we don’t have any . Quote
DirtySanchez Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 10 minutes ago, Rizlar said: Gomez is more of a winger it’s DM we need we don’t have any . Where does the other midfield player fit in then? Quote
Rizlar Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 50 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: Where does the other midfield player fit in then? Ok I will play Dempsey and Maghoma are box to box midfielders they like to get forward Sheehan ball player can’t tackle for toffee, Morley no idea anymore he looks totally lacking in confidence so that leaves GT and he’s a red card waiting to happen and again is not defensive minded. We get found out each game wing backs bomb forward lose the ball need a DM to cover when this happens but we don’t have that type of player in the squad anymore. Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 55 minutes ago, Rizlar said: Gomez is more of a winger it’s DM we need we don’t have any . Agreed we need a DM (as most do), but on CMG, the highlights compilations where he looks like a world beater suggest a direct, attacking midfielder who may drift wide but not as a winger, more in search of the ball, just involved. Wingers, eg Verlinden, Feeney, Ameobi, Dapo, tend to stick to their position waiting for the ball that might not come for 10 minutes. Then they beat a man and cross it, or cut in and shoot. Anyway, whether CMG is a wide player or centre mid I've no idea how he fits into an IE team!! I don't currently see how his style of player gets a regular place but I'm looking forward to finding out. Quote
Rizlar Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Johnnyrotten said: Agreed we need a DM (as most do), but on CMG, the highlights compilations where he looks like a world beater suggest a direct, attacking midfielder who may drift wide but not as a winger, more in search of the ball, just involved. Wingers, eg Verlinden, Feeney, Ameobi, Dapo, tend to stick to their position waiting for the ball that might not come for 10 minutes. Then they beat a man and cross it, or cut in and shoot. Anyway, whether CMG is a wide player or centre mid I've no idea how he fits into an IE team!! I don't currently see how his style of player gets a regular place but I'm looking forward to finding out. My thing with CMG like you say how does he fit in unless he’s going to play Lees position so time will tell as he’s been injured most of the time. Quote
DirtySanchez Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 20 minutes ago, Rizlar said: Ok I will play Dempsey and Maghoma are box to box midfielders they like to get forward Sheehan ball player can’t tackle for toffee, Morley no idea anymore he looks totally lacking in confidence so that leaves GT and he’s a red card waiting to happen and again is not defensive minded. We get found out each game wing backs bomb forward lose the ball need a DM to cover when this happens but we don’t have that type of player in the squad anymore. I agree we need a DM if we want to play the way we do Thomason, as much I like him isn't the answer as like you say he's walking a tight rope Quote
Zico Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 I had Paris down as someone who can tackle and bring the ball forward Him and GT will do in the middle and with Sheehan we should be ok Quote
desperado Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 Seems a silly thing to say, but we will be better without an injured Dempsey. It was clear his performances in the last few games was way off his form from early season. But we had little option with lots of injuries, so fair play to him for stepping up and taking on the role of captain when Santos/Jones were out. Hopefully it’s short term and he’ll come back firing and on form. Time for Morley, Thomason, Maghoma and Sheehan to stake their claims - they are plenty good enough when on form.  Quote
Eddie Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 3 hours ago, desperado said: Seems a silly thing to say, but we will be better without an injured Dempsey. It was clear his performances in the last few games was way off his form from early season. But we had little option with lots of injuries, so fair play to him for stepping up and taking on the role of captain when Santos/Jones were out. Hopefully it’s short term and he’ll come back firing and on form. Time for Morley, Thomason, Maghoma and Sheehan to stake their claims - they are plenty good enough when on form.  Only Sheehan of those 4 have proven they are good enough to start in a midfield that is good enough to finish in the top 2 (Morley possibly on the basis of some of his last season form). We really do need Maghoma to come back firing. Quote
deeane Koontz Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 Morley will need to stand up and stop playing hide and seek. Quote
radcliffe white Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 Like I mentioned other week it’s a make or break time for Morley plenty of unrest, when he’s started done himself no favours he needs to find his form again Quote
Whitesince63 Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 I like Morley but when he plays he doesn’t seem to really know what his main job is and seems lacking in confidence. Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 13 hours ago, Zico said: I had Paris down as someone who can tackle and bring the ball forward Him and GT will do in the middle and with Sheehan we should be ok That looks like a midfield devoid of goals or assists. Even when Morley is playing poorly he's good for a shot or 2 on target per game. I'm not saying he's the answer but we already lack goalscoring potential aside from Charles and playing Paris and GT in the same team is 2 more players that don't score. Not saying I know what the answer is! Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 Kinell, Paris showed his ability to create earlier this season. So long as he does that and strikers score, then it doesn't matter if he doesn't. We'd all like more goals from midfield, but it doesn't actually matter so long as someone bags and we win. Quote
only1swanny Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 5 hours ago, Whitesince63 said: I like Morley but when he plays he doesn’t seem to really know what his main job is and seems lacking in confidence. Adeeko won the mental game with him against Wigan and it went down hill from there. Could see it coming off the ball and his head went Quote
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