24 minutes ago, Big E said:

The big problem is he hasn’t changed. He’s not learnt from his mistakes. 

TBF he’s not had a full squad at his disposal to make the changes, past record shows he knows what he’s doing and can change tack. 

2 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

TBF he’s not had a full squad at his disposal to make the changes, past record shows he knows what he’s doing and can change tack. 

Not sure about that.

He changed to 3 up top and 2 in midfield. 

It was wank.

New midfielder can't get a start in the league, and we've looked better when he's played.

Injuries, yes, but some weird choices too.

So his plan all summer was to play 343/523, he signed players to play this but now we lose a few games and he's racing around trying to sign attacking wingers? are we reverting to a 433? It's just seems totally incoherent.

Edited September 8, 20241 yr by Zog1

16 minutes ago, Zog1 said:

So his plan all summer was to play 343/523, he signed players to play this but now we lose a few games and he's racing around trying to sign attacking wingers? are we reverting to a 433? It's just seems totally incoherent.

Is he racing about trying to sign attacking wingers?

3 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

TBF he’s not had a full squad at his disposal to make the changes, past record shows he knows what he’s doing and can change tack. 

I don’t get the argument. A couple of injuries yes but he has  assembled the squad. We had the problems before the windows and he let people leave. 

Just now, gonzo said:

Is he racing about trying to sign attacking wingers?

Currently in a saxo vtr heading all over Europe 

Trying to work Evatt out gives me a headache ! 

Just watching Portugal against Scotland… at 1-1 Portugal just getting it forward and wide quickly whipping in early balls and get bodies into the box, created loads of chances, eventually got the winner,  could do with Evatt watching how to chase a win from a drawing position . 

There was no need to tinker with last season's formation/tactics. We were a gnats cock away from finishing in the top 2. Even discounting the horrendous injury list (which was our ultimate downfall in my opinion), the only other issue was a mental one that meant we capitulated in the 'big games'. We've signed better than we had, and ejected some dead wood. That's all that needed to happen.

41 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Is he racing about trying to sign attacking wingers?

I think we only have one slot left in squad so signed players in same position would be doubly confusing. 

9 minutes ago, Cheese said:

There was no need to tinker with last season's formation/tactics. We were a gnats cock away from finishing in the top 2. Even discounting the horrendous injury list (which was our ultimate downfall in my opinion), the only other issue was a mental one that meant we capitulated in the 'big games'. We've signed better than we had, and ejected some dead wood. That's all that needed to happen.

The problem is, people have found out how to play against us, so we aren’t playing under the same circumstances as last season. We can’t afford to stand still but Evatt has openly told every other manager in this league how we are going to set up.

We came so close in a poorer standard of league, some folk will be in for a shock on how tough this season will be 

4 minutes ago, Ani said:

I think we only have one slot left in squad so signed players in same position would be doubly confusing. 

Don’t understand that link we don’t play with wingers at all ! 

Just now, Jol_BWFC said:

The problem is, people have found out how to play against us, so we aren’t playing under the same circumstances as last season. We can’t afford to stand still but Evatt has openly told every other manager in this league how we are going to set up.

Yep. We'd been sussed out by the end of last season (wasn't a blip in bad form). So we needed to change things up. The issue is the tactical tweak we've made has made us worse from a formation point of view and not addressed any of the issues in the way we play.

I'm not even going to entertain the injuries excuse

2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Not sure about that.

He changed to 3 up top and 2 in midfield. 

It was wank.

Is it 2 in midfield or 4? We don't seem to have 5 at the back except when the wide midfielders are forced to track back and the wide midfielders join the attack to make a front 5 but only when the opposition defence is set. All depends on whether they can get the better of their oppos. Schon doesn't even try to beat his man as often as not and yet I presume that was the job he was brought into do to make this system work. Tutu seems better at it. JDC is variable. No wonder there's talk of signing more wide men if Evatt is going to stick to his guns.

343 can work if the ball is moved quickly and the passing is accurate but therein lies the other problem - it often isn't.

It's a good system for top quality players.

 

 

Edited September 8, 20241 yr by Wanderlust

56 minutes ago, Cheese said:

There was no need to tinker with last season's formation/tactics. We were a gnats cock away from finishing in the top 2. Even discounting the horrendous injury list (which was our ultimate downfall in my opinion), the only other issue was a mental one that meant we capitulated in the 'big games'. We've signed better than we had, and ejected some dead wood. That's all that needed to happen.

In your opinion! how do we know a proper manager with real tactics and some adaptable in-game management wouldn't have won the league last season with that squad??

We were a 'gnats cock' away from promotion, but is that because of Evatt or despite him?? I feel that is the more relevant question.

3 teams were ultimately 'better' than us last year, yet none were particularly impressive. The likelihood is there will be a few more this time.

8 hours ago, JimmyRiddle said:

In your opinion! how do we know a proper manager with real tactics and some adaptable in-game management wouldn't have won the league last season with that squad??

We were a 'gnats cock' away from promotion, but is that because of Evatt or despite him?? I feel that is the more relevant question.

3 teams were ultimately 'better' than us last year, yet none were particularly impressive. The likelihood is there will be a few more this time.

Nobody knows how it would have gone with a different manager or without the injuries and it’s irrelevant now. What’s important is can Evatt do it this year and the jurys well out on 5hat so far. Let’s hope he brings it on Saturday and we can go forward from there. Let’s look forward not back.

11 hours ago, Cheese said:

There was no need to tinker with last season's formation/tactics. We were a gnats cock away from finishing in the top 2. Even discounting the horrendous injury list (which was our ultimate downfall in my opinion), the only other issue was a mental one that meant we capitulated in the 'big games'. We've signed better than we had, and ejected some dead wood. That's all that needed to happen.

I think there is a balance between how much is tactical, how much is system, how much is player limitation and how much is is just Evatt’s general managerial ability. 
 

I don’t think realistically that even the best tactical mind in the game would necessarily have stopped the second half of last season happening. I think that basically exposed the lack of strength in depth in the squad and lack of genuine variety. We had one type of player and if the first team player got injured we had exactly the same type as back up, just not as good. 
 

I don’t think tactics explain why we lose to Wigan or Blackpool or the final against Oxford, or in most of our big games. I suspect that’s down to the mentality in the team and Evatt’s broader managerial ability.

We do end up with broadly the same sort of players without a lot of variety and that seems to extend to their character too. 

I'm probably centre left with Evatt but my biggest critique is his in game management. 

The like for like- set in stone subs- especially when the chips are down and we are having a job done on us I find the hardest to take.

I've got @radcliffe whiteas centre right, Tomski as right and desperado as left btw

Then weve got the extremists.

11 minutes ago, gonzo said:

I'm probably centre left with Evatt but my biggest critique is his in game management. 

The like for like- set in stone subs- especially when the chips are down and we are having a job done on us I find the hardest to take.

I've got @radcliffe whiteas centre right, Tomski as right and desperado as left btw

Then weve got the extremists.

I’m probably similar to you TBH. Although you said Christmas and I’m 5/10 games 😂

The in-game management is also my biggest bug-bear with him. The process/pre-determined decisions rather than responsive/flexible ones are very frustrating.

1 hour ago, desperado said:

I’m probably similar to you TBH. Although you said Christmas and I’m 5/10 games 😂

The in-game management is also my biggest bug-bear with him. The process/pre-determined decisions rather than responsive/flexible ones are very frustrating.

I'm basically Antifa then 🤣  🇵🇸 

4 hours ago, gonzo said:

I'm probably centre left with Evatt but my biggest critique is his in game management. 

The like for like- set in stone subs- especially when the chips are down and we are having a job done on us I find the hardest to take.

I've got @radcliffe whiteas centre right, Tomski as right and desperado as left btw

Then weve got the extremists.

😂 right wing bedwetter please

I want to be centre forward but probably be left back 

https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/sport/football/blackpool-fc/patience-urged-as-former-blackpool-favourite-ian-evatt-comes-under-pressure-at-league-one-rivals-bolton-4774624

 

 

3 minutes ago, gonzo said:

https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/sport/football/blackpool-fc/patience-urged-as-former-blackpool-favourite-ian-evatt-comes-under-pressure-at-league-one-rivals-bolton-4774624

 

 

Are fans starting to turn so much that 3rd parties outside the club are picking up and reporting on it?