Meanwhile In England

[jmjhb]

You could argue it's just a ploy for more sales, I imagine streams will go through the roof now.

Let's face it, Reform voters in their 70s aren't exactly their target demographic.

[London Wanderer]

3 hours ago, royal white said:

You got there! Just like that Lucy’s Facebook post wasn’t right, and she’s now in jail. 
 

As for Glastonbury, who thinks let’s go a music festival and take Palestine flags? Weird. 

She is in jail 

Did the crowds at Glastonbury go on a rampage & start torching  anything associated with the IDF? 
 

Glastonbury has always had folk go there interested in politics etc. It’s always been more than just a music festival. You’ve talks & workshops there throughout the day. Wouldn’t do it personally, but don’t find it weird that folk express a political opinion there.

Edited June 29, 2025 by London Wanderer

[London Wanderer]

3 hours ago, gonzo said:

Middle class ponces who haven't got a clue what they're actually shouting for.

 

 

[gonzo]

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[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, athywhite1958 said:

Aren't they a proscribed terrorist group, therefore should be banned

Bob Vylan - proscribed terrorist 😂

[gonzo]

2 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

 

 

 

 

[deeane Koontz]

9 minutes ago, jmjhb said:

You could argue it's just a ploy for more sales, I imagine streams will go through the roof now.

Let's face it, Reform voters in their 70s aren't exactly their target demographic.

It was a massive Streisand effect with Kneecap. They've never been more popular.

[royal white]

4 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

She is in jail 

Did the crowds at Glastonbury go on a rampage & start torching  anything associated with the IDF? 
 

Glastonbury has always had folk go there interested in politics etc. It’s always been more than just a music festival. You’ve talks & workshops there throughout the day. Wouldn’t do it personally, but don’t find it weird that folk express a political opinion there.

I know she’s in jail. It’s literally in the post you replied too. 
 

I doubt people who have paid 100s of pounds to stand in a field in Somerset are likely to leave mid gig, get a flight over to Israel and start killing the IDF. 
 

Did people start setting fire to hotels because a bird from Northampton shared a social media post to a couple of hundred people? 

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, bolty58 said:

Absolutely bang on.

I was struck by the music festival angle.

Woodstock in the Sixties - peace, love and rock and roll.

Glastonbury present - "death to Israelis' and republican rap in gaelic from a band name selected to glorify the favoured IRA punishment.

London Wanderer is off his fucking trolley. Hopefully the law comes down hard on these violence inciters and on the stupid organisers who allowed this bullshit to go ahead.

 

It’s a tiny minority of Glasto 

And they didn’t call for death to Israelis did they ?

 Didn’t they refer to the IDF ? An organisation guilty of ethnic cleansing & wanted for war crimes.

The chants are wrong , & naive. But I’m not sure what the law will do & why they should be arrested ? Maybe they will.

But then you need to come down on a lot of other stuff. 

[London Wanderer]

1 minute ago, royal white said:

I know she’s in jail. It’s literally in the post you replied too. 
 

I doubt people who have paid 100s of pounds to stand in a field in Somerset are likely to leave mid gig, get a flight over to Israel and start killing the IDF. 
 

Did people start setting fire to hotels because a bird from Northampton shared a social media post to a couple of hundred people? 

Thats a no. They didn’t cause any trouble after 👍

Yes social media played a huge part in the riots. Do you not think it did?

She played her part, now she’s living with it. Even if it was a heavy sentence. 
 

We agree they were wrong . I just don’t know how they can be sent down for it? 

[London Wanderer]

6 minutes ago, gonzo said:

 

 

 

I can’t access this. What have I missed 😄

[kent_white]

22 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

She is in jail 

Did the crowds at Glastonbury go on a rampage & start torching  anything associated with the IDF? 
 

Glastonbury has always had folk go there interested in politics etc. It’s always been more than just a music festival. You’ve talks & workshops there throughout the day. Wouldn’t do it personally, but don’t find it weird that folk express a political opinion there.

True - but I am an see parallels between this and that Lucy women that got put in prison. 

I suppose the only destinction is that nobody is going to realistically be able to go out and murder a member of the IDF - which was a distinct risk in the Southport incident. 

This is one of those that veers very close to the line for me. 

Chenting 'Free Palestine' fair enough if that's your worldview. Changing 'death to the IDF' - overstepping a line. 

And while I could make more of an argument for an artist doing it - these fuckwits in the crowd who started changing back need their heads screwing back on. 

Peace and love my arse! 

[royal white]

4 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Thats a no. They didn’t cause any trouble after 👍

Yes social media played a huge part in the riots. Do you not think it did?

She played her part, now she’s living with it. Even if it was a heavy sentence. 
 

We agree they were wrong . I just don’t know how they can be sent down for it? 

Social media did, I doubt her post did though.

Jews in London are speaking out about how they’re living in fear and we have scum like this chanting  death to the IDF live on the BBC to millions. (BBC making another Israel related apology, they’re getting good at this). 

Police investigating, politicians from all sides speaking of their disgust. 
 

Your response. “They didn’t cause any trouble after” (even though you don’t know this) 

So fkin predictable.

[jmjhb]

 

 

 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

7 minutes ago, jmjhb said:

 

 

 

The Met's statement ends "the safety and security of MPs is something that is taken extremely seriously across the whole of policing"

Top trolling

I'm not sure how they can come to the conclusion that leading a chant encouraging people to kill their MP is not an indictable offence, or why Glastonbury have no issue platforming people who make the kind of comments quoted

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, royal white said:

Social media did, I doubt her post did though.

Jews in London are speaking out about how they’re living in fear and we have scum like this chanting  death to the IDF live on the BBC to millions. (BBC making another Israel related apology, they’re getting good at this). 

Police investigating, politicians from all sides speaking of their disgust. 
 

Your response. “They didn’t cause any trouble after” (even though you don’t know this) 

So fkin predictable.

I’ve no idea how you’ve simplified my response into such a simple sentence 😄 But you like to do that.
 

I don’t agree with the chants, neither do Glastonbury (Not sure why the festival should get a knock). They’ve said it was appalling.

 I’m not sure it’s the same in a court of law as what Lucy did. Due to the violent consequences of what occurred. But I can understand why you think it might be.
 

I’m also not sure how folk can expect them to be arrested & prosecuted. It’s to complicated. Chanting Irish resistance songs isn’t much different from singing rule Britannia depending on your beliefs. The IDF are wanted for war crimes. Folk are going to say nasty things about them unfortunately. It’s appalling- but can you arrest people based on bring appalled ?

If you go for kneecap & bob vylan then there’s a whole other side of footy chants & anti Islam rhetoric you’d have to arrest folk for. Would be a wormhole. 

 

[tomski]

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

 

 

 

A firm fave that vid.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

3 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

I don’t agree with the chants, neither do Glastonbury (Not sure why the festival should get a knock). They’ve said it was appalling.

What were they expecting?

The group isn't exactly subtle

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

True - but I am an see parallels between this and that Lucy women that got put in prison. 

I suppose the only destinction is that nobody is going to realistically be able to go out and murder a member of the IDF - which was a distinct risk in the Southport incident. 

This is one of those that veers very close to the line for me. 

Chenting 'Free Palestine' fair enough if that's your worldview. Changing 'death to the IDF' - overstepping a line. 

And while I could make more of an argument for an artist doing it - these fuckwits in the crowd who started changing back need their heads screwing back on. 

Peace and love my arse! 

👏

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

5 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

 I’m not sure it’s the same in a court of law as what Lucy did. Due to the violent consequences of what occurred. 

I'm not sure I agree with people who think Bob Vylan should be arrested and prosecuted for what they said

But in terms of the law on incitement to violence in general, incitement is incitement and for charges to be brought it doesn't matter whether others act on it 

[gonzo]

So people can say what they want on stage as long as there's no aggro after it?

 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

Just now, gonzo said:

So people can say what they want on stage as long as there's no aggro after it?

 

It really is a daft argument

[London Wanderer]

Just now, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I'm not sure I agree with people who think Bob Vylan should be arrested and prosecuted for what they said

But in terms of the law on incitement to violence in general, incitement is incitement and for charges to be brought it doesn't matter whether others act on it 

Aye

And that’s all I’m really saying here. It was a criticism of Bolty’s extreme reaction to prosecute them & ban them from ever performing. Nonsense.

And yes it’s a blurry one. I don’t know what the police can really do. This is a foreign military organisation who are wanted for war crimes & ethnic cleansing. As wrong as it is, it’s not like they’re inciting violence to others in the local community 

[London Wanderer]

7 minutes ago, gonzo said:

So people can say what they want on stage as long as there's no aggro after it?

 

If someone says death to Islam should they be prosecuted & banned from ever speaking again ? 
 

There is a fine line between inciting violence & voicing an extreme opinion. I can see how this isn’t simple for the police. Which is why Kneecap won’t be prosecuted. 

Edited June 29, 2025 by London Wanderer

[gonzo]

12 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

If someone says death to Islam should they be prosecuted & banned from ever speaking again ? 
 

 

During a concert?

Fucking right they should.

They should never be given a licence to perform ever again, it'd be hate speech ffs.

If this was some Right Wing band shouting that kind of shit the outrage would be equally as justified.

Seems there's only you trying to downplay it.