Meanwhile In England

[London Wanderer]

26 minutes ago, kent_white said:

😂😂

LoCk ThEm Up WiTh LuCy the GaMmOn

[Cheese]

6 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

To be fair, I guess there wasn't much to pick from in the early 2000s

Most of Jagged Little Pill was about their breakup apparently.

Except Jagged Little Pill was released in 1995, and she didn't meet Ryan Reynolds until 2002.

[kent_white]

13 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

It genuinely isn't manufactured or about publicity

They really do believe the things they say 

I'll be honest - I don't really know what it is they say because I've never watched them. 

Presumably it's along the lines of - Free Palestine - down with Israel - fuck the monarchy - or something like that? 

Didn't they also say something about killing Tory MPs as well? 

I very much doubt that they would genuinely want any Tory MPs to be killed in reality. Although if they're found to be in breach of the law then they either need to be punished - or the law needs changing if it's not fit for purpose. 

[Zico]

15 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

To be fair, I guess there wasn't much to pick from in the early 2000s

Most of Jagged Little Pill was about their breakup apparently.

Dunno, that came out in 96 and wiki says they were together 2002-07

Had a look and it's some bloke called Dave Collier who I've never heard of

I do believe Jagged Little Pill outsold Oasis and Spice Girls in 1996 

[peelyfeet]

9 minutes ago, Zico said:

Dunno, that came out in 96 and wiki says they were together 2002-07

Had a look and it's some bloke called Dave Collier who I've never heard of

I do believe Jagged Little Pill outsold Oasis and Spice Girls in 1996 

Dave Collier, sounds like a 1980s plumber from Leyland.

[frank_spencer]

21 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I'll be honest - I don't really know what it is they say because I've never watched them. 

Presumably it's along the lines of - Free Palestine - down with Israel - fuck the monarchy - or something like that? 

Didn't they also say something about killing Tory MPs as well? 

I very much doubt that they would genuinely want any Tory MPs to be killed in reality. Although if they're found to be in breach of the law then they either need to be punished - or the law needs changing if it's not fit for purpose. 

One of BVs songs starts with the line 'kill the queen, she killed Diana' it's hardly news they've got controversial views.

[MancWanderer]

13 hours ago, gonzo said:

Over 200 asylum folk landed on Tickle Trout this morning 🤦‍♂️

 

Damn!! Supposed to be there for a business meeting on Tuesday. Best find somewhere else….

Quick Google though says it’s to house Afghans who helped during the conflict and is organised by the MOD not Serco

Place had gone a bit shit though so MacDonald Group cashing in? 

[kent_white]

11 minutes ago, frank_spencer said:

One of BVs songs starts with the line 'kill the queen, she killed Diana' it's hardly news they've got controversial views.

We live in a sanitised world. 

Bring back the KLF 

[London Wanderer]

So will it just be Bob Vylan the vegan terrorist & Kneecap the militant IRA extemists getting locked up ?

Or will they be going after the thousands of other artists & football chants with offensive lyrics ? 
 

Going to be some operation this. Many spare prison cells at the moment ? 

[Not in Crawley]

53 minutes ago, Zico said:

Dunno, that came out in 96 and wiki says they were together 2002-07

Had a look and it's some bloke called Dave Collier who I've never heard of

I do believe Jagged Little Pill outsold Oasis and Spice Girls in 1996 

And which pop stars label was it released on?

[peelyfeet]

15 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

And which pop stars label was it released on?

Shawaddywaddy

[bolty58]

8 hours ago, gonzo said:

During a concert?

Fucking right they should.

They should never be given a licence to perform ever again, it'd be hate speech ffs.

If this was some Right Wing band shouting that kind of shit the outrage would be equally as justified.

Seems there's only you trying to downplay it.

Crossed my mind. Skrewdriver. Not that those nutjobs would ever been given a slot at Glastonbury but I'm sure them shouting out "Death to BLM" or similar would generate a different response from the likes of London Wanderer.

[bolty58]

8 hours ago, kent_white said:

I think your brain is wired up wrong 

Still - you worry about the 'hurty words' and I'll worry about the borderline genocide. 

And I bet you had no idea who this person was before today. And now you do. So you've fallen right into their little trap. 

If you want to articulate why I'm wrong - I'm more than happy for you to set me straight. I won't be able to reply to you for a couple of hours mind. 

Just remember that there will probably be at least another couple of dead Palestinian children by that point too. So make sure you make it convincing! 👍

I'll reply. The wokey types are always wanking on about 'hurty words' as you put it. Until of course it suits their purposes not to.

What is happening in Gaza is a response decades of attacks, hate, threats of genocide etc. all culminating in October 7th. Can't and won't be allowed to happen again. If the perpetrators choose to hide behind the weak, infirm, young or hospitalised then regrettable results (calculated to provide propaganda) will be inevitable.

These terrorist supporting cunts at Glastonbury did their thing in the UK. No explanation of why this is an outrage should be required after that one sentence. The fucking book should be thrown at them.

If that puts me in a particular group in your eyes then so be it.

[bolty58]

8 hours ago, Sweep said:

Things happen in wars. Israel must be allowed to defend itself. 

Yes, you are correct. When you say "allow", who will stop it defending itself?

[bolty58]

8 hours ago, peelyfeet said:

I think it's a question of what's reasonable and justified. The Palestinian death toll is 10 times larger than Israeli since 1948. How much more "defending" are they justified in carrying out? 

As much as is required.

[Not in Crawley]

9 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

I'll reply. The wokey types are always wanking on about 'hurty words' as you put it. Until of course it suits their purposes not to.

What is happening in Gaza is a response decades of attacks, hate, threats of genocide etc. all culminating in October 7th. Can't and won't be allowed to happen again. If the perpetrators choose to hide behind the weak, infirm, young or hospitalised then regrettable results (calculated to provide propaganda) will be inevitable.

These terrorist supporting cunts at Glastonbury did their thing in the UK. No explanation of why this is an outrage should be required after that one sentence. The fucking book should be thrown at them.

If that puts me in a particular group in your eyes then so be it.

This post couldn't be more historically or politically wrong.

Idiots assemble.

[mickbrown]

Read today somewhere, and I paraphrase, and it's probably over simplistic, but if you're more concerned about the way somebody expresses their disapproval to a genocide rather than the actual genocide then that's pretty fucked up.

[bolty58]

Just now, mickbrown said:

Read today somewhere, and I paraphrase, and it's probably over simplistic, but if you're more concerned about the way somebody expresses their disapproval to a genocide rather than the actual genocide then that's pretty fucked up.

The operative word (once again) being 'genocide'.

Only one of the combatants in the Middle East has ever been subjected to it.

[mickbrown]

Just now, bolty58 said:

The operative word (once again) being 'genocide'.

Only one of the combatants in the Middle East has ever been subjected to it.

And only one is currently capable of carrying one out

[bolty58]

Just now, mickbrown said:

And only one is currently capable of carrying one out

..and yet there are multiple players in that region who have threatened Israel with this multiple times over decades.

[mickbrown]

1 minute ago, bolty58 said:

..and yet there are multiple players in that region who have threatened Israel with this multiple times over decades.

And yet not one of them are capable of doing it.

Anyroad. I did say it was overly simplistic, yet the gist of it has legs

[peelyfeet]

24 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

As much as is required.

War has rules, international laws to protect civilians from slaughter. It appears Israel is breaking them, which is why they've banned international press. You don't get an exemption from the laws just because you've suffered your own civilian deaths, retaliating 10 fold makes you guilty of the same crime you accuse your enemy of, X10. 

[bolty58]

3 hours ago, peelyfeet said:

War has rules, international laws to protect civilians from slaughter. It appears Israel is breaking them, which is why they've banned international press. You don't get an exemption from the laws just because you've suffered your own civilian deaths, retaliating 10 fold makes you guilty of the same crime you accuse your enemy of, X10. 

There is no comparison between Israel hunting down vicious cowards hiding behind civilians and what happened on October 7th.

It is not lost on me that the Glastonbury pop/rock festival has been in the news for "pro Palestine " reasons. It is not lost on me that the Supernova pop/rock festival was attacked for "pro Palestine" reasons. The common denominator seems to be the problem.

Still, one was only innocent Jews and foreign visitors (not hiding behind anyone) being butchered eh?

[bolty58]

4 hours ago, mickbrown said:

And yet not one of them are capable of doing it.

Anyroad. I did say it was overly simplistic, yet the gist of it has legs

One was getting close. Too close for comfort. Due to recent news I am expecting them to have more of the same to come. Stick that in your centrifuge and smoke it.

Yes, you did say overly simplistic so fair play. The gist of it has legs if you accept the word 'genocide' being applied. I don't.

[royal white]

7 hours ago, bolty58 said:

I'll reply. The wokey types are always wanking on about 'hurty words' as you put it. Until of course it suits their purposes not to.

What is happening in Gaza is a response decades of attacks, hate, threats of genocide etc. all culminating in October 7th. Can't and won't be allowed to happen again. If the perpetrators choose to hide behind the weak, infirm, young or hospitalised then regrettable results (calculated to provide propaganda) will be inevitable.

These terrorist supporting cunts at Glastonbury did their thing in the UK. No explanation of why this is an outrage should be required after that one sentence. The fucking book should be thrown at them.

If that puts me in a particular group in your eyes then so be it.

There’s another festival/Carnival in a couple of months that goes by the name of Notting Hill. No doubt there will be dozens of stabbings, rapes, sexual assaults, attacks on emergency workers and possibly murders amongst other crimes. I guarantee we will have a particular group on here saying “these things happen at carnivals” “you don’t see calls for football matches to be cancelled” and other equally stupid defensive posts.