royal white Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Duck Egg said: There's some folk who believe that to even ask the question is racist. It's a shame that it'll get asked less now because it's a reasonable ice breaker in a conversation and it gives the person a chance to chat about their heritage and roots if they choose to. She's a daft old bat though for pursuing the line of questioning when it clearly wasn't welcome. And we are still going off this ladies version of events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Who gives a flying fuck where she’s from anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted December 1, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted December 1, 2022 21 minutes ago, Cheese said: "Foreigners just don't integrate enough. We need to help our own before giving handouts to foreign people" A Black woman born in Britain speaks fluent English whilst promoting her Charity that helps victims of Domestic Violence... "WHY ARE YOU WEARING THOSE WEIRD CLOTHES? WHY IS YOUR SKIN THAT COLOUR? WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU FROM? 🤬" That’s not what she said though. And you’re deliberately choosing to ignore the whole picture. I used the word golliwog earlier. Someone could easily cut and paste that and just scream RACIST at me, and before too long it would gather enough traction that even when the actual context was revealed the damage has been done. Again, an 80-odd year old who’s done this all her life, but possibly been having a tough day/early onset dementia/brainfart isn’t automatically a member of The Klan who should be drowned in the Thames. No one, and I mean no one on here is defending any form of racism. What some of us are doing is providing an alternative side to an occurrence that probably deserves it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, Spider said: That’s not what she said though. And you’re deliberately choosing to ignore the whole picture. I used the word golliwog earlier. Someone could easily cut and paste that and just scream RACIST at me, and before too long it would gather enough traction that even when the actual context was revealed the damage has been done. Again, an 80-odd year old who’s done this all her life, but possibly been having a tough day/early onset dementia/brainfart isn’t automatically a member of The Klan who should be drowned in the Thames. No one, and I mean no one on here is defending any form of racism. What some of us are doing is providing an alternative side to an occurrence that probably deserves it. Well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted December 1, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Spider said: That’s not what she said though. And you’re deliberately choosing to ignore the whole picture. I used the word golliwog earlier. Someone could easily cut and paste that and just scream RACIST at me, and before too long it would gather enough traction that even when the actual context was revealed the damage has been done. Again, an 80-odd year old who’s done this all her life, but possibly been having a tough day/early onset dementia/brainfart isn’t automatically a member of The Klan who should be drowned in the Thames. No one, and I mean no one on here is defending any form of racism. What some of us are doing is providing an alternative side to an occurrence that probably deserves it. A most noble endevour 👍 The people who were actually there saw it differently and the Lady resigned in disgrace, so I can only assume your instinctive position is to always give old racists the benefit of the doubt, because they're old and have been racist all their lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted December 1, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Cheese said: A most noble endevour 👍 The people who were actually there saw it differently and the Lady resigned in disgrace, so I can only assume your instinctive position is to always give old racists the benefit of the doubt, because they're old and have been racist all their lives. Sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Cheese said: A most noble endevour 👍 The people who were actually there saw it differently and the Lady resigned in disgrace, so I can only assume your instinctive position is to always give old racists the benefit of the doubt, because they're old and have been racist all their lives. As soon as the term Racist starts getting thrown about you’re guilty till proven innocent. (See the cricket farce last year). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted December 1, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted December 1, 2022 Pretty good summary from James O'Brien. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) Love how entrenched everyone gets with this. Reality is none of us give a fuck about the old timer or the other lady. I certainly don’t anyway as whether it’s right or wrong gets hijacked by both sides. @Pablonever had you down as a Moonki Edited December 1, 2022 by tomski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 An Asian guy was also asked where he was from by the same lady, he said Manchester, end of conversation. Point to note he didn’t have another countries flag wrapped in his hair and was dressed as many Brits do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 23 minutes ago, royal white said: And we are still going off this ladies version of events. True. I think though that it's fair to assume her recollection is fairly accurate and she's not lying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted December 1, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Duck Egg said: True. I think though that it's fair to assume her recollection is fairly accurate and she's not lying. Seeing as the Lady resigned immediately, and the Royal Family have condemned what she said, I think it's safe to assume the recounting of the incident is accurate. Edited December 1, 2022 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 13 minutes ago, Cheese said: Seeing as the Lady resigned immediately, and the Royal Family have condemned what she said, I think it's safe to assume the recounting of the incident is accurate. I’m guessing that the reason no further action was taken by the Royal Family to Megan’s claims of racism was because the incident was inaccurate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobbypond Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 She should have told her stop being a nosey bitch and headbutted her. Job done, crack on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 hour ago, royal white said: An Asian guy was also asked where he was from by the same lady, he said Manchester, end of conversation. Point to note he didn’t have another countries flag wrapped in his hair and was dressed as many Brits do. Moose Knuckles jacket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: Moose Knuckles jacket? For Those who have a few Bob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 The issue is here, and people don't like it because they dismiss it, but it is about structual racism, which isn't something I want to wade into on a football forum; but I have to say reading why I'm no longer talking to white people about race by Eddo-Lodge was a real change moment for me, and if people are interested in the topic well worth £8 of your cash and a few hours of your time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, royal white said: For Those who have a few Bob. And no sense of style 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfc2003 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Cheese said: "Foreigners just don't integrate enough. We need to help our own before giving handouts to foreign people" A Black woman born in Britain speaks fluent English whilst promoting her Charity that helps victims of Domestic Violence... "WHY ARE YOU WEARING THOSE WEIRD CLOTHES? WHY IS YOUR SKIN THAT COLOUR? WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU FROM? 🤬" Why are you now making things up?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted December 1, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 minute ago, bwfc2003 said: Why are you now making things up?? 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 18 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: The issue is here, and people don't like it because they dismiss it, but it is about structual racism, which isn't something I want to wade into on a football forum; but I have to say reading why I'm no longer talking to white people about race by Eddo-Lodge was a real change moment for me, and if people are interested in the topic well worth £8 of your cash and a few hours of your time. Or keep your 8 quid and listen to a black dude on Twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, royal white said: Or keep your 8 quid and listen to a black dude on Twitter. Are you suggesting it isn’t about racism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Just now, globaldiver said: Are you suggesting it isn’t about racism? I’ve suggested you can keep your £8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, royal white said: I’ve suggested you can keep your £8 Will do, it’ll pay for tonight’s heating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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