The Managerial Roundabout

[frank_spencer]

4 hours ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

Jim Radcliffe has announced that Amorim deserves 3 years to get the project sorted. Excellent news.

Be gone by November then.

[Wanderlust]

4 hours ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

Jim Radcliffe has announced that Amorim deserves 3 years to get the project sorted. Excellent news.

As much as I love watching Manure struggle, it saddens me to say that I reckon Amorim will turn them around given time. Took him a couple of windows to sort out Sporting but he did a superb job taking them from no-hopers to title winners and despite what we have seen recently, he’s widely considered a master tactician.

[Tombwfc]

1 hour ago, Wanderlust said:

As much as I love watching Manure struggle, it saddens me to say that I reckon Amorim will turn them around given time. Took him a couple of windows to sort out Sporting but he did a superb job taking them from no-hopers to title winners and despite what we have seen recently, he’s widely considered a master tactician.

 

What does 'turn it around' mean in this instance? They finished 3rd and won the FA Cup as recently as 2023. That would look a major turnaround now, but only because he's done an unimaginably rubbish job so far.

I don't think there's any chance of him doing that to be fair. A master tactician who can only play one way?

[gonzo]

1 hour ago, Wanderlust said:

As much as I love watching Manure struggle, it saddens me to say that I reckon Amorim will turn them around given time. Took him a couple of windows to sort out Sporting but he did a superb job taking them from no-hopers to title winners and despite what we have seen recently, he’s widely considered a master tactician.

Difference is here is they are already behind a conglomerate of sqauds in their way.

They aren't replacing Arsenal, City, Liverpool or Chelsea in the pecking order anytime soon.

Those 4 have just as much cash are years ahead in sqaud depth and talent.

He hasn't got the time to turn it around.

He could try a different approach tailored to his pool of talent to buy himself time and get results, but he won't, he's welded to 5-2-3 and would need 4 more windows to even begin to compete and even then that system is flawed a beaten easily with a high press and packed midfield as we all know already.

He'll be gone in Jan.

[Eddie]

He’s a fraud, and long may his stubborn arrogance continue to make relegation a more likely possibility than a title.

Any manager that sets up with Eriksen and a fat Casemiro in a midfield two against Newcastle’s Joelinton, Bruno and Tonali should be sacked on the spot. Thank god they didn’t as it’s hilarious to watch.

Edit - he has found a way to win his relegation 6 pointers though against Burnley and Sunderland, which seems to be enough for them to cling onto, so fair play for that achievement.

Edited October 9, 2025 by Eddie

[Zico]

20 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Difference is here is they are already behind a conglomerate of sqauds in their way.

They aren't replacing Arsenal, City, Liverpool or Chelsea in the pecking order anytime soon.

Those 4 have just as much cash are years ahead in sqaud depth and talent.

He hasn't got the time to turn it around.

He could try a different approach tailored to his pool of talent to buy himself time and get results, but he won't, he's welded to 5-2-3 and would need 4 more windows to even begin to compete and even then that system is flawed a beaten easily with a high press and packed midfield as we all know already.

He'll be gone in Jan.

thinking maybe Ratcliffe realises constantly chopping and changing 

6 managers full time since Ferguson left, Solskjaer had the longest with 3 seasons, the rest had 2 or less

then you look at the top 3

Liverpool - ok, Slot's second season but Klopp was there 9 years, only one title but they got miles better under him

Arsenal - Arteta - no trophies in 6 years, but he's made them miles better

Pep - 9 years - everything

 

someone, at some point, at utd, needs a good stint and go at it

utd's biggest mistake was letting businessmen over rule Dan Ashworth

[passmosster]

Zero interest in Man Utg.

[Tombwfc]

3 hours ago, Zico said:

thinking maybe Ratcliffe realises constantly chopping and changing 

6 managers full time since Ferguson left, Solskjaer had the longest with 3 seasons, the rest had 2 or less

then you look at the top 3

Liverpool - ok, Slot's second season but Klopp was there 9 years, only one title but they got miles better under him

Arsenal - Arteta - no trophies in 6 years, but he's made them miles better

Pep - 9 years - everything

 

someone, at some point, at utd, needs a good stint and go at it

utd's biggest mistake was letting businessmen over rule Dan Ashworth

 

Bit chicken an egg though - if you give a shit manager time they'll still be shit. The managers you've mentioned have been given time at their jobs because they're good, they aren't good because they've been given time. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

That's a bit of an oversimplification.

[Zico]

1 hour ago, Tombwfc said:

 

Bit chicken an egg though - if you give a shit manager time they'll still be shit. The managers you've mentioned have been given time at their jobs because they're good, they aren't good because they've been given time. 

Yeah I just think after years of chopping and changing it might be worth giving a manager some time

It's worked for the top 3, arteta yet to really deliver, but they're getting better every season 

If they sack him they'll just end up with another no mark like Pochettino

[gonzo]

Satsuma news.

Bloomfield was interviewed at Bloomfield yesterday. Touch of nominative determinism at play possibly.

The chairman doesn't like Evatt.

The fans want Wellens.

Luton want Wellens.

 

[Dr. Feelgood]

4 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Bloomfield was interviewed at Bloomfield yesterday. Touch of nominative determinism at play possibly.

Does that mean Liam Trotter might get ours one day ? Or possibly Karl Toughsheet from Westhoughton.

[jmjhb]

20 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

Does that mean Liam Trotter might get ours one day ? Or possibly Karl Toughsheet from Westhoughton.

Emmanuel Macron eyeing up a career change.

[Whitestar]

John Craven is favourite for the Fulham job.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

In which case Stefan Kuntz must be the next man in at Utd.

[DirtySanchez]

2 hours ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

Does that mean Liam Trotter might get ours one day ? Or possibly Karl Toughsheet from Westhoughton.

Sadler is at Walsall 

[ZiggyStardust]

3 hours ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

Does that mean Liam Trotter might get ours one day ? Or possibly Karl Toughsheet from Westhoughton.

When our current manager goes to Northampton.

[Kane57]

On 09/10/2025 at 13:37, Wanderlust said:

As much as I love watching Manure struggle, it saddens me to say that I reckon Amorim will turn them around given time. Took him a couple of windows to sort out Sporting but he did a superb job taking them from no-hopers to title winners and despite what we have seen recently, he’s widely considered a master tactician.

What a load of horse shit

[Kane57]

13 hours ago, gonzo said:

Satsuma news.

Bloomfield was interviewed at Bloomfield yesterday. Touch of nominative determinism at play possibly.

The chairman doesn't like Evatt.

The fans want Wellens.

Luton want Wellens.

 

Nobody likes Evatt

 

Except Evatt

[Wanderlust]

2 hours ago, Kane57 said:

Nobody likes Evatt

 

Except Evatt

Nobody likes you either but they generally don’t feel the need to bang on about it to massage their egos.

Edited October 11, 2025 by Wanderlust

[Mannyroader]

18 hours ago, DirtySanchez said:

Sadler is at Walsall 

Wolfgang Wolf used to manage Wolfsburg.

[miamiwhite]

Jimmy Armfield will be the next Liverpool manager 

YHIHF

[Dr. Feelgood]

Stevie Me has told Rangers he doesn't want their poxy job in the Farmers League. (OK, not those precise terms). 

Funny though.

[Dr. Feelgood]

Also, in case you didn't thing big Ange wasn't really in trouble at Forest

Nottingham Forest will consider Sean Dyche as a replacement for Ange Postecoglou should they decide to part with their under-pressure head coach.

[Dr. Feelgood]

Bumped, almost literally, into Steve Cooper yesterday. It'd passed me by that he was now managing Brondby in Denmark.

Seems happy enough.

He didn't mention Burton, so that's a plus.