Wanderlust Posted June 19, 2024 Posted June 19, 2024 (edited) 11 hours ago, gonzo said: Same as anyone else's that not played professionally? It's been 18 years since Alan Shearer retired and 30 years since Lineker retired and the game has changed immeasurably since then so I don't see having played professionally as any sort of qualification. That said, I find some people who haven't played with good players tend to talk in cliches and don't really understand what the difficulties of playing under pressure are like. Commentators who say "he failed to connect with the cross" when the cross was just too high/early/late/out of reach or "he couldn't control it" when the pass was misplaced or there were two others challenging for it grind my gears a bit. I never played at the pro level, but I've played with/against folk who have and only then do you realise how quick, strong, skilful - and injury-free you have to be just to get a sniff of making a living as a pro footballer. You don't have to be a pro to discuss it sensibly, but it does help if you have some experience of how hard it is to consistently play great football - especially under pressure from other great players - and although I slip into slagging players off occasionally, I genuinely admire the lot of them - they are all proper dedicated athletes. Edited June 19, 2024 by Wanderlust Quote
perth_white Posted June 19, 2024 Posted June 19, 2024 38 minutes ago, Duck Egg said: It right annoyed me that. We're generally a self deprecating bunch us English but to suggest that somehow we'd spoiled some festival of football by our opening performance is well wide of the mark imo. Putting aside the fact we scored 12 goals in our last 2 opening world cup games, the booing of the anthems, as bad as that is, was actually started by the Serbs. It's been nice these last few days to see pics on Twitter of normal England fans, having a drink with opposing fans, being respectful of their environment etc. You could be forgiven they exist thanks to all the attention given to the mongalongs and the 2 world wars & 1 world cup lot. I wasn't very pleased with it either but thought it was worth sharing if only to get the blood pumping. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted June 19, 2024 Posted June 19, 2024 46 minutes ago, Duck Egg said: It right annoyed me that. We're generally a self deprecating bunch us English but to suggest that somehow we'd spoiled some festival of football by our opening performance is well wide of the mark imo. Putting aside the fact we scored 12 goals in our last 2 opening world cup games, the booing of the anthems, as bad as that is, was actually started by the Serbs. It's been nice these last few days to see pics on Twitter of normal England fans, having a drink with opposing fans, being respectful of their environment etc. You could be forgiven they exist thanks to all the attention given to the mongalongs and the 2 world wars & 1 world cup lot. The comments on our performance and Southgate were on the money. Everyone knows he’s a dud….. he’s got short shelf life left and maybe he will not revert to type in the upcoming games.., here’s hoping. Quote
gonzo Posted June 19, 2024 Posted June 19, 2024 28 minutes ago, Wanderlust said: It's been 18 years since Alan Shearer retired and 30 years since Lineker retired and the game has changed immeasurably since then so I don't see having played professionally as any sort of qualification. That said, I find some people who haven't played with good players tend to talk in cliches and don't really understand what the difficulties of playing under pressure are like. Commentators who say "he failed to connect with the cross" when the cross was just too high/early/late/out of reach or "he couldn't control it" when the pass was misplaced or there were two others challenging for it grind my gears a bit. I never played at the pro level, but I've played with/against folk who have and only then do you realise how quick, strong, skilful - and injury-free you have to be just to get a sniff of making a living as a pro footballer. You don't have to be a pro to discuss it sensibly, but it does help if you have some experience of how hard it is to consistently play great football - especially under pressure from other great players - and although I slip into slagging players off occasionally, I genuinely admire the lot of them - they are all proper dedicated athletes. There's not many journalists or commentators that have kicked a ball. That fact doesn't make their opinion any less valid or worth listening roo as long as it's educated. You're not getting many more informed than Andy Brassels or Kevin Hatchard. Then you've got esteemed journalists like Henry Winter and Co. Nobody on here haw kicked a ball I'm anger but we are all experts I just don't get how listening to some pretty informed chat on sports radio station is swallowing shit or everyone who is listening is a retard? It's just people talking about stuff. Same as LBC, Same as 5 live. There's nobody worse for talking utter shit than Sutton and Savage by the way, along with Clinton Morrison and Garth Crookes, fuck me I'll stick to Tabloid/Retard Radio thanks. Quote
frank_spencer Posted June 19, 2024 Posted June 19, 2024 All talk radio can get in the bin, why listen to a bunch of cunts waffle on when you could have some tunes on? Quote
deeane Koontz Posted June 19, 2024 Posted June 19, 2024 5 minutes ago, gonzo said: There's not many journalists or commentators that have kicked a ball. That fact doesn't make their opinion any less valid or worth listening roo as long as it's educated. You're not getting many more informed than Andy Brassels or Kevin Hatchard. Then you've got esteemed journalists like Henry Winter and Co. Nobody on here haw kicked a ball I'm anger but we are all experts I just don't get how listening to some pretty informed chat on sports radio station is swallowing shit or everyone who is listening is a retard? It's just people talking about stuff. Same as LBC, Same as 5 live. There's nobody worse for talking utter shit than Sutton and Savage by the way, along with Clinton Morrison and Garth Crookes, fuck me I'll stick to Tabloid/Retard Radio thanks. You retard. Quote
gonzo Posted June 19, 2024 Posted June 19, 2024 48 minutes ago, deeane Koontz said: You retard. You couldn't find your backside with both hands and a funnel sunshine. Quote
Members bolty58 Posted June 19, 2024 Members Posted June 19, 2024 Wondering how many holes the Swiss cheeses will find tonight? Braveheart to grave fart in less than two hours again no doubt. Expecting Germany to have another solid win. Quote
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted June 19, 2024 Members Posted June 19, 2024 1 hour ago, gonzo said: Clinton Morrison Now he really does stand out The shit pundit's shit pundit Quote
Moderators Zico Posted June 19, 2024 Moderators Posted June 19, 2024 3 hours ago, gonzo said: There's not many journalists or commentators that have kicked a ball. That fact doesn't make their opinion any less valid or worth listening roo as long as it's educated. You're not getting many more informed than Andy Brassels or Kevin Hatchard. Then you've got esteemed journalists like Henry Winter and Co. Nobody on here haw kicked a ball I'm anger but we are all experts aye and no one here is a politician but it doesn't stop the everyday ongoing debates about what politics are the best and why yours are shite and basically make you the cunt Quote
Marc505 Posted June 19, 2024 Posted June 19, 2024 2 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: Now he really does stand out The shit pundit's shit pundit He's done ever so well Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 19, 2024 Site Supporter Posted June 19, 2024 5 hours ago, W.cramp said: Not sure If it's an age thing or perhaps the box tickers fault but I find mesel turning the volume off at h.time and turning over 2 mins after a game ends nowadays. 2 minutes- that long! 😁 Just got in so watching half time highlights of the Balkans derby, so don't mind the chat, but at full time, it's straight off. Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 19, 2024 Site Supporter Posted June 19, 2024 5 hours ago, Duck Egg said: It right annoyed me that. We're generally a self deprecating bunch us English but to suggest that somehow we'd spoiled some festival of football by our opening performance is well wide of the mark imo. Putting aside the fact we scored 12 goals in our last 2 opening world cup games, the booing of the anthems, as bad as that is, was actually started by the Serbs. It's been nice these last few days to see pics on Twitter of normal England fans, having a drink with opposing fans, being respectful of their environment etc. You could be forgiven they exist thanks to all the attention given to the mongalongs and the 2 world wars & 1 world cup lot. I found the article bizarre, confusing and pointless. Together with a hint of "anti-English". Ah well, each to their own. Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 19, 2024 Site Supporter Posted June 19, 2024 Another great game this! Quote
London Wanderer Posted June 19, 2024 Posted June 19, 2024 Two sides desperate to win. Excellent stuff Quote
Wanderlust Posted June 19, 2024 Posted June 19, 2024 6 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Another great game this! It was and with Albania's late (deserved) equaliser Croatia could well be out. Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 19, 2024 Site Supporter Posted June 19, 2024 Good to see teams having a go. Albania played some nice stuff at times too. Quote
frank_spencer Posted June 19, 2024 Posted June 19, 2024 People always whinge about GSTK being a dreary anthem but it's better than the Hungarian one and many of the others. The German one is a cracker if you don't sing the Nazi lyrics. Italians is probably my favorite one Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 19, 2024 Site Supporter Posted June 19, 2024 18 minutes ago, frank_spencer said: People always whinge about GSTK being a dreary anthem but it's better than the Hungarian one and many of the others. The German one is a cracker if you don't sing the Nazi lyrics. Italians is probably my favorite one Russian one is also excellent. Thankfully we won't hear it. Away from Europe the Japanese anthem is tremendous- it totally reflects the character of the people. Quote
Not in Crawley Posted June 19, 2024 Posted June 19, 2024 7 hours ago, Wanderlust said: It's been 18 years since Alan Shearer retired and 30 years since Lineker retired and the game has changed immeasurably since then so I don't see having played professionally as any sort of qualification. That said, I find some people who haven't played with good players tend to talk in cliches and don't really understand what the difficulties of playing under pressure are like. Commentators who say "he failed to connect with the cross" when the cross was just too high/early/late/out of reach or "he couldn't control it" when the pass was misplaced or there were two others challenging for it grind my gears a bit. I never played at the pro level, but I've played with/against folk who have and only then do you realise how quick, strong, skilful - and injury-free you have to be just to get a sniff of making a living as a pro footballer. You don't have to be a pro to discuss it sensibly, but it does help if you have some experience of how hard it is to consistently play great football - especially under pressure from other great players - and although I slip into slagging players off occasionally, I genuinely admire the lot of them - they are all proper dedicated athletes. Ex pros are usually the worst pundits, I much prefer listening to journalists. Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 19, 2024 Site Supporter Posted June 19, 2024 If Hungary had put one of their early chances away, then this game could have become very different. As it is, Germany have gradually strangled Hungary and made it difficult for them to have much possession. Still in it though- hopefully Hungary will come out and have a go again. Look decent enough up top to grab a goal. Quote
Members DazBob Posted June 19, 2024 Members Posted June 19, 2024 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Russian one is also excellent. Agreed. It's the best one around IMO. Such a shame its for a country run by a lunatic. Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 19, 2024 Site Supporter Posted June 19, 2024 49 minutes ago, DazBob said: Agreed. It's the best one around IMO. Such a shame its for a country always run by lunatics. Quote
deeane Koontz Posted June 19, 2024 Posted June 19, 2024 Fucking soppy build up this. It sounds Welsh Quote
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