No Henderson in the provisional squad 

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Reckon we'd have beaten that England team!

 

Travel 1,000 miles and pay hundreds of pounds to watch wallpaper dry... not for me

We won against Serbia.

I’ll get my tinfoil hat ready but while a bit rubbish. A point closer to Qualifying and winning the group.

Not sure why he’s not bringing Palmer on though. 

Gordan has to start on the left next

Saka's running like he's carrying an injury too

Just now, deeane Koontz said:

Gordan has to start on the left next

Saka's running like he's carrying an injury too

I heard the flash song reading that😂

Just now, bolty58 said:

Correct. For Gods sake man go. Get a proper footballing man in instead of a virtue signalling automaton.

I am seeing nothing different from when we butchered the Euro final using the same tactics.

Turgid dross. Exactly as predicted to my nephews who were at the game. Even predicted the score correctly but like an idiot didn't get on at 3.40 the draw.

Southgate out.

Southgate has said publicly he'll probably go after the tournament which I don't believe in doing; just think it's better to keep quiet until afterwards. 

Whether the players aren't enthused by him, I don't know, but it's as if Southgate doesn't believe in himself nor the players.

Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Southgate has said publicly he'll probably go after the tournament which I don't believe in doing; just think it's better to keep quiet until afterwards. 

Whether the players aren't enthused by him, I don't know, but it's as if Southgate doesn't believe in himself nor the players.

To quote the magnificent Mourinho, "He's an expert in failure".

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Southgate has said publicly he'll probably go after the tournament which I don't believe in doing; just think it's better to keep quiet until afterwards. 

Whether the players aren't enthused by him, I don't know, but it's as if Southgate doesn't believe in himself nor the players.

We certainly know there's at least 1 player who wants nothing to do with him - but tbh it's lucky that's the case as otherwise the prat might try to start 4 right backs instead of just 3.

1 minute ago, tomski said:

I heard the flash song reading that😂

 

3 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

Interesting that the 'experts', Shearer especially, was pretty aggressively dismissive of suggestions that the team were playing poorly & changes were needed .... until he changed & was calling it all shite.

TAA was a very late change if process & frankly he's shown f'call.  Leave him out & let Foden play as a 10.

He's shit scared of playing just one protective midfielder.

Guehi was fine today, and stones is established. 

If we're playing more in the opponent's half, the defence has less to do anyway.

Shocking.

We should’ve gone 3 at the back and matched them up. 2 up top. 

1 minute ago, maaarsh said:

We certainly know there's at least 1 player who wants nothing to do with him - but tbh it's lucky that's the case as otherwise the prat might try to start 4 right backs instead of just 3.

Presumably you mean the Arsenal lad.

I don't know what the score is with that story.

7 minutes ago, Cheese said:

We won against Serbia.

😁

Damned by feint praise!

That was a bit of a damning interview from Kane

I've always been a defender of Southgate in tournaments, often maximised results out of limited players in certain positions. 2018 especially, made an effective club type team out of some not great players.

This time it feels like the opposite. He's got an overload of great attackers and doesn't know how to use them effectively.

We're going to fall short at QF stage again 

There were plenty of concerns tonight but the biggest one was us looking like a team at the end of a long, hard tournament, not one at the beginning. The lack of energy is worrying. We look the leggiest, most stodgy team in it, maybe with the exception of Croatia

The Bellingham is better than Gascoigne brigade are probably having a night off.

I think he's got the squad cycle between tournaments all wrong. We've not filtered the likes of Eze, Gallagher, Palmer, Gordon in to the squad as part of a cohesive system/way of playing. Alexander-Arnold in the holding midfield role says it all really. We have the feel of a league side who made a load of signing on the last day of the deadline and then have a game two days later and play like strangers.

I also think Southgate has got in to the type of manager who drowns his players in tactics and stifles them. 

We'll get through now we've got 4 points but I see no grounds for optimism once in the knockout stage. Obviously hope I get proved wrong.

7 minutes ago, jmjhb said:

That was a bit of a damning interview from Kane

I stopped paying attention, not even turned it off to do something else. Just numb.

What did he say that was so damning?

1 hour ago, radcliffe white said:

So Bolton like 

All Been Saying that in Pub 

Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I stopped paying attention, not even turned it off to do something else. Just numb.

What did he say that was so damning?

Basically he said England don't always know how to progress the ball or who should be pressing whom

Well, the BBC studio team have changed their tune. "Foden as 10, Kane must stop coming back so much, drop TAA & play Bellingham as a 6".

Yes. Quite.

Well, I would like to see a brand new tactic, and play two up top but I realise that is too extreme in modern football

1 minute ago, Wullie said:

Well, I would like to see a brand new tactic, and play two up top but I realise that is too extreme in modern football

Not unreasonable. 

Almost seems that "new methods" have to be adhered too irrespective of success or otherwise. 

That is until someone else does succeed with a "revolutionary" approach. 

Tony would have been pulling his hair out watching that. 

It's like it's a big shock to the world that Kane is actually a number 10 and has been playing like this for Spurs and Bayern for the past 4 seasons.

Why the manager has all of sudden decided to ignore this and play with nobody around him or on the overlap is a total fucking mystery.

We are starting the game with a bank of 6 defenders, 3 no 10s and a winger.

Kane summed it up. They haven't got the foggiest idea what it is they are meant to be doing. 

If Kane is coming deep and playing as a 10 there's simply no room for 2 other No 10s. 

Get Bellingham back in with Rice and run the show like Gerrard or Bryan Robson. Get some fucker up with Kane to run in behind, even if it's Watkins.

And get a fucking rocket up their arses.

Edited June 20, 20242 yr by gonzo