10 hours ago, Zog1 said:

Think one of the reasons why we've struggled to attract any decent loan talent outside of Bradley (3 seasons ago), Trafford (2 seasons ago) and Maghoma (we paid a load for), is the upper echelons of the footballing pyramid laughing IE out of the room.

Can you imagine us going for the next Beckham etc and your Man City types having to accept having 3 former defenders, non of which have held a post above League 1 trying to teach the player """""""their"""""""" new special formula for progressive attacking football.

The second your next Beckham tries to show some individual class, flair or anything, the gruesome threesome come racing at them for not playing their way, all of a sudden they're out of the team and being forced to shadow or learn from a player who's highest football achievement was getting to a league one playoff final.

It's bad enough we have a training ground with no indoor pitch and kit that last saw proper money in 2007. We also have a manager, who basically every other manager in the league think is an entitled azz.

 

 

K2 tackle this

15 hours ago, Zog1 said:

Think one of the reasons why we've struggled to attract any decent loan talent outside of Bradley (3 seasons ago), Trafford (2 seasons ago) and Maghoma (we paid a load for), is the upper echelons of the footballing pyramid laughing IE out of the room.

Can you imagine us going for the next Beckham etc and your Man City types having to accept having 3 former defenders, non of which have held a post above League 1 trying to teach the player """""""their"""""""" new special formula for progressive attacking football.

The second your next Beckham tries to show some individual class, flair or anything, the gruesome threesome come racing at them for not playing their way, all of a sudden they're out of the team and being forced to shadow or learn from a player who's highest football achievement was getting to a league one playoff final.

It's bad enough we have a training ground with no indoor pitch and kit that last saw proper money in 2007. We also have a manager, who basically every other manager in the league think is an entitled azz.

 

 

I'd say you're not a "5/10 more games" voter

25 minutes ago, Stig said:

I'd say you're not a "5/10 more games" voter

I'd say he's just woke covered in piss surrounded by empty cider bottles.

If your position is "5/10 more games" when will it be enough for you.

As I've said before, this team playing IE's Plan A will never have a time where it loses 3/4 games in a row. If that is your method he'll never leave and we'll never get promoted.

Let me explain

We mostly t**t the weaker teams and then struggle against the teams around/ above us. If we want to get promoted those teams we struggle against, we need a way outside of a 98th min penality, of beating them and beating them reliably.

His team, the way its currently set up isn't capable of that SO we'll never get automatic promotion.

I can also explain why the above happens and why other top teams haven't suffered this, if you need that.

8 minutes ago, Zog1 said:

I can also explain why the above happens and why other top teams haven't suffered this, if you need that.

Go on....

This should be good.

9 minutes ago, Zog1 said:

If your position is "5/10 more games" when will it be enough for you.

As I've said before, this team playing IE's Plan A will never have a time where it loses 3/4 games in a row. If that is your method he'll never leave and we'll never get promoted.

Let me explain

We mostly t**t the weaker teams and then struggle against the teams around/ above us. If we want to get promoted those teams we struggle against, we need a way outside of a 98th min penality, of beating them and beating them reliably.

His team, the way its currently set up isn't capable of that SO we'll never get automatic promotion.

I can also explain why the above happens and why other top teams haven't suffered this, if you need that.

Ineos need look no further.

I've got the popcorn on

36 minutes ago, Zog1 said:

 

I can also explain why the above happens and why other top teams haven't suffered this, if you need that.

Brill, let's hear it then

15 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Brill, let's hear it then

why?

he'll post some shite, you'll ridicule him, then he will fuck off crying like last time

Wow the happly clappers are out in force today. Wonder if these sycophants are on the payroll. 

We play a complicated way of football, that's a fact, you have to play it a certain way for it to work. This complexity leads to mistakes, waiting on the ball too long, being caught in possession, not clearing your lines effectively sound familar? We've all seen those games were we look worse than a pub team.

The reason for these mistakes is easy, a League One team doesn't have the ability to be able to make it work.

Teams better and worse take advantage of this in 2 different ways.

1. They wait for a mistake, score and put 11 behind the ball. This invites pressure and we either batter them or they get lucky and manage to hold on. We've got quite good at winning these, but they do occasionally hold out and we lose games we should have won. You see this in the games were we have like 70% possession and have 20 shots.

2. Teams as good as ours or better, actually try to force us to make those mistakes, this works because we have such a weak middle we can't impose ourselves on the game, disrupt their play or effectively make counter attacks, our wing backs get pinned back and thus we have little attacking threat.

When you combine these together you end up losing about 10/15 games a season and drawing about the same number.

Frankly it isn't good enough to be promoted automatically, it's not reliable enough.

I have no doubt that we'll get to the playoffs, but when we go against those teams as good or better than us we can't win.

 

 

Edited October 29, 20241 yr by Zog1

16 minutes ago, Zog1 said:

Wow the happly clappers are out in force today. Wonder if these sycophants are on the payroll. 

We play a complicated way of football, that's a fact, you have to play it a certain way for it to work. This complexity leads to mistakes, waiting on the ball too long, being caught in possession, not clearing your lines effectively sound familar? We've all seen those games were we look worse than a pub team.

The reason for these mistakes is easy, a League One team doesn't have the ability to be able to make it work.

Teams better and worse take advantage of this in 2 different ways.

1. They wait for a mistake, score and put 11 behind the ball. This invites pressure and we either batter them or they get lucky and manage to hold on. We've got quite good at winning these, but they do occasionally hold out and we lose games we should have won. You see this in the games were we have like 70% possession and have 20 shots.

2. Teams as good as ours or better, actually try to force us to make those mistakes, this works because we have such a weak middle we can't impose ourselves on the game, disrupt their play or effectively make counter attacks, our wing backs get pinned back and thus we have little attacking threat.

When you combine these together you end up losing about 10/15 games a season and drawing about the same number.

Frankly it isn't good enough to be promoted automatically, it's not reliable enough.

I have no doubt that we'll get to the playoffs, but when we go against those teams as good or better than us we can't win.

 

 

Have you sent this to Ian Evatt?

Or Sharon?

Or Toby Lerone from the Swiss consortium?

31 minutes ago, Zog1 said:

Wow the happly clappers are out in force today. Wonder if these sycophants are on the payroll. 

We play a complicated way of football, that's a fact, you have to play it a certain way for it to work. This complexity leads to mistakes, waiting on the ball too long, being caught in possession, not clearing your lines effectively sound familar? We've all seen those games were we look worse than a pub team.

The reason for these mistakes is easy, a League One team doesn't have the ability to be able to make it work.

Teams better and worse take advantage of this in 2 different ways.

1. They wait for a mistake, score and put 11 behind the ball. This invites pressure and we either batter them or they get lucky and manage to hold on. We've got quite good at winning these, but they do occasionally hold out and we lose games we should have won. You see this in the games were we have like 70% possession and have 20 shots.

2. Teams as good as ours or better, actually try to force us to make those mistakes, this works because we have such a weak middle we can't impose ourselves on the game, disrupt their play or effectively make counter attacks, our wing backs get pinned back and thus we have little attacking threat.

When you combine these together you end up losing about 10/15 games a season and drawing about the same number.

Frankly it isn't good enough to be promoted automatically, it's not reliable enough.

I have no doubt that we'll get to the playoffs, but when we go against those teams as good or better than us we can't win.

 

 

In fairness these are perfectly valid points and I've said I think we'll struggle to even make the play offs with Evatt in charge. I'd have parted ways in the summer.

Your post about the loanees seems way off the mark though. We've had a number of good loanees from decent clubs. The style of play, decent sized stadium and fanbase are all real selling points for anyone looking to get experience for "the next Beckham"

30 minutes ago, Stig said:

In fairness these are perfectly valid points and I've said I think we'll struggle to even make the play offs with Evatt in charge. I'd have parted ways in the summer.

Your post about the loanees seems way off the mark though. We've had a number of good loanees from decent clubs. The style of play, decent sized stadium and fanbase are all real selling points for anyone looking to get experience for "the next Beckham"

This!!!

4 hours ago, gonzo said:

Have you sent this to Ian Evatt?

Or Sharon?

Or Toby Lerone from the Swiss consortium?

surely we're just calling him Swiss Toby

(it's near enough)

I can't tell if that's a whoosh or not

probably a bit of both

15 hours ago, Zog1 said:

Wow the happly clappers are out in force today. Wonder if these sycophants are on the payroll. 

We play a complicated way of football, that's a fact, you have to play it a certain way for it to work. This complexity leads to mistakes, waiting on the ball too long, being caught in possession, not clearing your lines effectively sound familar? We've all seen those games were we look worse than a pub team.

The reason for these mistakes is easy, a League One team doesn't have the ability to be able to make it work.

Teams better and worse take advantage of this in 2 different ways.

1. They wait for a mistake, score and put 11 behind the ball. This invites pressure and we either batter them or they get lucky and manage to hold on. We've got quite good at winning these, but they do occasionally hold out and we lose games we should have won. You see this in the games were we have like 70% possession and have 20 shots.

2. Teams as good as ours or better, actually try to force us to make those mistakes, this works because we have such a weak middle we can't impose ourselves on the game, disrupt their play or effectively make counter attacks, our wing backs get pinned back and thus we have little attacking threat.

When you combine these together you end up losing about 10/15 games a season and drawing about the same number.

Frankly it isn't good enough to be promoted automatically, it's not reliable enough.

I have no doubt that we'll get to the playoffs, but when we go against those teams as good or better than us we can't win.

 

 

Of course that’s a possible scenario, however we beat one of these Barnsley in the semi final of last season’s play offs, since then we’ve strengthened our squad, in patches such as the first 20 last night we look unplayable, we’re still gelling and have a number of quality players out injured and these will add further quality… my glass half full says we get an automatic promotion place. 

Edited October 30, 20241 yr by Mounts Kipper

Haven't changed my mind, sack him now....no poll needed anymore

Where’s the fuck him off button.

Times time, had enough.

If he doesn't look at himself & think it can't continue someone needs to tell him.

Just fckg, fck the fck fckg off you fckg fckwittering gobshite.

On 29/10/2024 at 16:24, Casino said:

why?

he'll post some shite, you'll ridicule him, then he will fuck off crying like last time

The wet lettuce.

Ok boomer.

He's going nowhere. 

20 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

He's going nowhere. 

This is sadly right

9 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

This is sadly right

I might be wrong. But for the 50% fans who were on the fence and giving him more time, the majority now won’t be. 

We can’t delay now. It’s the right time to make a change.

We do it now, we still have a good chance of promotion. Someone might be able to get a better tune of the crop we have and /or make the changes that are needed to get us winning not only the bread and butter games, but also these games where the opposition/oppositions manager out: think/fight/perform us.

We can’t delay - make a change Sharon

Edited November 9, 20241 yr by desperado