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Not quite sure where to stand on it.

Taken a draw on paper, but then taking into account league position, ten men and one up, it’s back to the frustration. 
 

think points have been covered where the in game management is naive. 
 

but we are just trundling along. 
 

 

Posted
47 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Must say there's been a slight overreaction about a 1-1 draw away from home against a team set out out spoil the game from the off.

It could've been a lot worse. 

Win home, draw away. You won't be far off.

It's not easy playing against ten men either. Most teams in the land struggle to break a bank of ten down. 

Their game plan was getting fouls and deadballs around the box. Worked a treat and we fell for it hook line and sinker.

 

 

 

If they're putting so many behind the ball, how are they getting so many free kicks in dangerous areas?

Obviously they are going to have the ball occasionally, but we shouldn't be conceding so many set pieces.

Something doesn't sit right- are we so naive keep playing into an opponent's hands in that way?

If so, then Evatt must be able to see it, and simply has to be able to make the in-game changes required.

 

 

Posted
10 minutes ago, gonzo said:

I've yet to see a not shit team this season.

Talking to Blackpool fans today, they were shit last night, Bristol were shitter.

Both teams were shit on Saturday.

Brum were shit at theirs and we were shitter.

Wrexham were shit. We were just as shit.

The whole division is shit. 

 

So Evatt’s  job is to make us less shit than everyone else. 
 

He ain’t doing that. 

Posted
1 hour ago, gonzo said:

Must say there's been a slight overreaction about a 1-1 draw away from home against a team set out out spoil the game from the off.

It could've been a lot worse. 

Win home, draw away. You won't be far off.

It's not easy playing against ten men either. Most teams in the land struggle to break a bank of ten down. 

Their game plan was getting fouls and deadballs around the box. Worked a treat and we fell for it hook line and sinker.

 

 

 

if only it was about one game

Posted
3 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

So Evatt’s  job is to make us less shit than everyone else. 
 

He ain’t doing that. 

Agree.

Whichever way it is dressed up, we're not doing well enough. 

If everyone is shit, it should be easier to get up, and be a bit less shit.

Fwiw, I think the quality is there, but it seems the motivation isn't quite there.

Someone said "going through the motions" above. Seems a fair assessment. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Agree.

Whichever way it is dressed up, we're not doing well enough. 

If everyone is shit, it should be easier to get up, and be a bit less shit.

Fwiw, I think the quality is there, but it seems the motivation isn't quite there.

Someone said "going through the motions" above. Seems a fair assessment. 

We don’t have much quality at all; transfer window has fucked us

Posted
2 hours ago, desperado said:

And there we have it. Folk who want us to lose are amongst us.

There were folk who walked out at Forest at home because Parky was a twat.

To be honest our club is better off without folk like you.

A new manager would want points on the board, a chance to do something this year. Us losing serves no purpose to anyone. 

Super fan? Give me that anyday of the week over shit fan. 

See you at Bristol away… yeh right, will I fuck. 

You’ll wheedle your way back thinking you’re a great fan when we have a new manager, but it won’t take long before you get pissed off with something else. 

So you’re satisfied with the last four years, the embarrassment of Wembley, the humiliation of Huddersfield, Stockport and last night not to mention recent Wigan games or very nearly throwing the Barnsley home play off game last year from a seemingly invincible position. Putting together a team that crumbles when the good teams dig in. Supporting all that makes you a good fan does it? Personally I think it makes you a myopic and for you to then accuse fans who see through the current situation and want better for this club as shit fans is frankly astounding. It doesn’t matter how many away games you go to, or even home for that matter, it doesn’t make you some kind of super fan so cut the crap. We’re all fans but some of us can maybe see things a bit clearer than others and we all have a view and the right to express it.

Posted
1 hour ago, gonzo said:

Must say there's been a slight overreaction about a 1-1 draw away from home against a team set out out spoil the game from the off.

It could've been a lot worse. 

Win home, draw away. You won't be far off.

It's not easy playing against ten men either. Most teams in the land struggle to break a bank of ten down. 

Their game plan was getting fouls and deadballs around the box. Worked a treat and we fell for it hook line and sinker.

 

 

 

We were one man up but every set  piece it felt like we were a man down and this continued right to the end when we watched a free header go in

That's why I'm pissed off 

It was coming a mile off 

 

Posted
22 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

If they're putting so many behind the ball, how are they getting so many free kicks in dangerous areas?

 

 

 

They were pumping the ball into dangerous areas and going down like sacks of shit and playing for corners and throws.

Probably a bit of game management and shithousery we could do with.

That Morrison was bang at it all night.

...it's what McAtee was meant to bring...

I'm far from saying last night was OK.

But it was certainly no Stockport.

 

 

Posted
5 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said:

So you’re satisfied with the last four years, the embarrassment of Wembley, the humiliation of Huddersfield, Stockport and last night not to mention recent Wigan games or very nearly throwing the Barnsley home play off game last year from a seemingly invincible position. Putting together a team that crumbles when the good teams dig in. Supporting all that makes you a good fan does it? Personally I think it makes you a myopic and for you to then accuse fans who see through the current situation and want better for this club as shit fans is frankly astounding. It doesn’t matter how many away games you go to, or even home for that matter, it doesn’t make you some kind of super fan so cut the crap. We’re all fans but some of us can maybe see things a bit clearer than others and we all have a view and the right to express it.

They're only opinions. Just because you have a different one to someone else doesn't mean you can "see things a bit clearer than them".

Posted
Just now, Cheese said:

They're only opinions. Just because you have a different one to someone else doesn't mean you can "see things a bit clearer than them".

But also just because you didn’t do Cambridge and/or Bristol rovers away doesn’t mean your opinion is wide of the mark… 

Posted
1 minute ago, barrycowdrill said:

But also just because you didn’t do Cambridge and/or Bristol rovers away doesn’t mean your opinion is wide of the mark… 

Of course.

Posted
3 minutes ago, Cheese said:

They're only opinions. Just because you have a different one to someone else doesn't mean you can "see things a bit clearer than them".

That’s true cheese but neither is it a reason to be labelled a shit fan for holding a different opinion. We all want the best for the club and as we can see from here there are lots of different views all expressed honestly so it would help just to counter them rather than getting personal.

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Whitesince63 said:

So you’re satisfied with the last four years, the embarrassment of Wembley, the humiliation of Huddersfield, Stockport and last night not to mention recent Wigan games or very nearly throwing the Barnsley home play off game last year from a seemingly invincible position. Putting together a team that crumbles when the good teams dig in. Supporting all that makes you a good fan does it? Personally I think it makes you a myopic and for you to then accuse fans who see through the current situation and want better for this club as shit fans is frankly astounding. It doesn’t matter how many away games you go to, or even home for that matter, it doesn’t make you some kind of super fan so cut the crap. We’re all fans but some of us can maybe see things a bit clearer than others and we all have a view and the right to express it.

What are you going on about?

Talk about missing the point.

Where to start unpicking your wild misinterpretations

First of all, this was a point about folk wanting us to lose games. 

There are plenty of folk who despise Evatt, but don’t want us to lose.

Satisfied with the last 4 years? With a few ups and downs, from July 2020 to May 2024 was a great progressive ride.

From Oxford onwards, I’m very disappointed, I’ve made that clear if you bother reading my posts. 

And finally, how can the type of fans I’m calling out make us better if they want us lose? 

Edited by desperado
Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said:

That’s true cheese but neither is it a reason to be labelled a shit fan for holding a different opinion. We all want the best for the club and as we can see from here there are lots of different views all expressed honestly so it would help just to counter them rather than getting personal.

Pretty sure he was referring to people who wish we'd lost at home to Blackpool...

Edited by Cheese
Posted
55 minutes ago, gonzo said:

I've yet to see a not shit team this season.

Talking to Blackpool fans today, they were shit last night, Bristol were shitter.

Both teams were shit on Saturday.

Brum were shit at theirs and we were shitter.

Wrexham were shit. We were just as shit.

The whole division is shit. 

 

he's the one who set the bar high by saying we're the best football team

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, superjohnmcginlay said:

Not quite sure where to stand on it.

Taken a draw on paper, but then taking into account league position, ten men and one up, it’s back to the frustration. 
 

think points have been covered where the in game management is naive. 
 

but we are just trundling along. 
 

 

but we are just trundling along. 

Only been to two games this season, last night included. That is how I feel when watching the play... I have used the words "adequate third division" previously.

I was impressed with how Cambridge were set up in defence... everyone knowing and doing their jobs and when they went down to 10 men we all know from experience it can be almost impossible to open teams up. Collins did the job with what looked like a side footer through the traffic. 

I recall one of the newer players putting it over the bar after a bad contact... should have scored really.

If Kachunga had a proper striker's touch we'd have lost it.

Away point in the end.

Edited by Dimron
Posted

I only started watching the game just after our goal.

Gifted a goal by Cambridge.

Watched the replay of the sending off, silly behaviour but not a sending off. Disappointed by the dive.

Last half an hour hardly any positive play. Misplaced passes, constantly losing possession.

Substitutions didn't work.

When they started pumping the ball in a goal looked inevitable. 

When it came it was a decent cross, but no pressure, a great header , but no challenge.

I was relieved when they decided to slow it down for the remaining injury time.

 

Posted
20 minutes ago, Dimron said:

Away point in the end.

That's where I'm at. 4pts from the last two games, 20pts from the last 10.

The magical/mythical 2ppg without even playing well?

Posted
1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

🤣

I can assure you Mick, it wasn't intentional!

Not a bad slip in the end though!

 

You’re far too honest. 😁
 

Anyroad, I’m using it it every match for every ineffectual 70 min sub combo from now on. And I’ve no doubt they’ll be plenty 
 

I’ll reference you, of course👍
 

 

Posted

Our objective this season, as with each year of evatts tenure is promotion. We repeat the same weaknesses and our standard of play generally is ineffective and tedious. Evatt is not getting the best out of the players, individually or tactically. We are now less likely to be promoted than at any time with IE imo. He should have been replaced after Wembley. It seems that a combination of stubbornness and blind loyalty from Sharon will cost us.

Posted
29 minutes ago, Traf said:

That's where I'm at. 4pts from the last two games, 20pts from the last 10.

The magical/mythical 2ppg without even playing well?

We need more than that though to make up for the bad start. 

If we don't pick up points against those above us, then it will become insurmountable. 

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