Johnnyrotten Posted Sunday at 15:46 Posted Sunday at 15:46 8 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said: Morley was steady enough. Randall another nonentity in that sort of situation. We lack someone who can add a body to the midfield and help close games like yesterday out Sheehan surely? Quote
gonzo Posted Sunday at 15:58 Posted Sunday at 15:58 28 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: Does anyone know why there were no BW fans in ESL yesterday? Can't be to do with expected demand, not much different yesterday to any Saturday game. Unless they've decided to sack it apart from big games? It was as sparse as I've seen it for a league game. Flat as a pancake too. Quote
waffer cup 07 Posted Sunday at 16:15 Posted Sunday at 16:15 What was the crowd, looked well down on recent games. The weather didn't help. Quote
wakey Posted Sunday at 16:18 Posted Sunday at 16:18 fuck me, we're quick to slag our own players off. Quote
gonzo Posted Sunday at 16:18 Posted Sunday at 16:18 3 minutes ago, waffer cup 07 said: What was the crowd, looked well down on recent games. The weather didn't help. 20k ish official. Reckon there was about 12k on in reality. Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted Sunday at 16:52 Posted Sunday at 16:52 (edited) 55 minutes ago, gonzo said: It was as sparse as I've seen it for a league game. Flat as a pancake too. We never know how many will turn up for each game but in terms of home tickets sold it was virtually the same as Wimbledon (19,700) and was more than Lincoln by a few hundred, about 250 less than Plymouth. So taking Wigan out of it, very much the usual average for a Saturday. Something else must have been different yesterday, and South Lower not currently on sale for the Cardiff game, so maybe its a policy change. Edited Sunday at 16:55 by Johnnyrotten Quote
tomski Posted Sunday at 17:01 Posted Sunday at 17:01 7 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: We never know how many will turn up for each game but in terms of home tickets sold it was virtually the same as Wimbledon (19,700) and was more than Lincoln by a few hundred, about 250 less than Plymouth. So taking Wigan out of it, very much the usual average for a Saturday. Something else must have been different yesterday, and South Lower not currently on sale for the Cardiff game, so maybe it’s a policy change. I’m sure someone said we aren’t giving the free tickets away anymore and it’s gonna be a £10 scheme thing again where the seller gets half. Quote
gonzo Posted Sunday at 17:02 Posted Sunday at 17:02 What's the craic with the ESU getting grief for standing? Quote
tomski Posted Sunday at 17:06 Posted Sunday at 17:06 2 minutes ago, gonzo said: What's the craic with the ESU getting grief for standing? The Stewards said it’s the only bit of the ground the club is arsed about and supposedly the EFL aren’t happy with it. I suspect the truth may be a tad different Quote
boogs Posted Sunday at 18:00 Posted Sunday at 18:00 49 minutes ago, tomski said: The Stewards said it’s the only bit of the ground the club is arsed about and supposedly the EFL aren’t happy with it. I suspect the truth may be a tad different I saw the stewards up there in the second half yesterday, but why would the EFL have any knowledge or even care about a section of about 200 fans that dont particularly cause any problems?? Genuine question. But I know there is no way you or anyone would have an answer to that, it's nonsense. Quote
bolty58 Posted Sunday at 18:03 Posted Sunday at 18:03 4 hours ago, mickbrown said: I had nips like docker’s thumbs Winter Nips may have helped Quote
tomski Posted Sunday at 18:04 Posted Sunday at 18:04 Just now, boogs said: I saw the stewards up there in the second half yesterday, but why would the EFL have any knowledge or even care about a section of about 200 fans that dont particularly cause any problems?? Genuine question. But I know there is no way you or anyone would have an answer to that, it's nonsense. Agreed. I’m in that section and it’s difficult to understand what the actual issue is. I think the old stand manager has moved on, she was pretty sound after realising that no one was causing bother. It could be anything though. fwiw the stewards were pretty sound and took some light stick in good nature. We were told it wouldn’t be the end of it though and they’d see us next time. We also had emails sent this week which look like they were targeted at our block only. Odd stuff. Quote
ianofcleveleys Posted Sunday at 18:09 Posted Sunday at 18:09 It's a funny mix at the moment crowd-wise that I think is contributing to the atmosphere (or lack of). There seem to be 2-3k ST holders who often don't show up for whatever reason, but still plenty of walk-up occasional visitors turning up. A lot of them seem to be sold in the West Upper, where I am, and while its good they're adding to the club's finances they're not very invested. Three blokes I'd never seen before turned up on my row and apart from the 15-20 up to and including our goals they were more interested in taking selfies, nattering and checking their bets on LiveScore than getting into the game in front of them. By no means the first time I've seen that sort of thing, even this season. It's a bit like a small scale version of being at City, big numbers on the face of it but not enough of them really that up for getting behind the team. Reminded me of how it was last season, when in Evatt's last game we were down to the real hard core but the atmosphere was loud and supportive Quote
boogs Posted Sunday at 18:09 Posted Sunday at 18:09 2 minutes ago, tomski said: Agreed. I’m in that section and it’s difficult to understand what the actual issue is. I think the old stand manager has moved on, she was pretty sound after realising that no one was causing bother. It could be anything though. fwiw the stewards were pretty sound and took some light stick in good nature. We were told it wouldn’t be the end of it though and they’d see us next time. We also had emails sent this week which look like they were targeted at our block only. Odd stuff. If anything you'd think they'd be more interested in the growing number in the west lower choosing to stand next to away fans. I'm not near it but looks/sounds like a few are deciding to congregate there. Still doesn't even look like a problem from where I'm sat though. Agree it's all a bit odd. Quote
tomski Posted Sunday at 18:16 Posted Sunday at 18:16 4 minutes ago, boogs said: If anything you'd think they'd be more interested in the growing number in the west lower choosing to stand next to away fans. I'm not near it but looks/sounds like a few are deciding to congregate there. Still doesn't even look like a problem from where I'm sat though. Agree it's all a bit odd. I’m sure we will find out more. They kept at it all game time 80 mins when a couple of them came over to say bye. For context I am right at the back and wasn’t asked to sit once. An impressive amount of wasted man power used and a poor lady who had to clean bird poo off a few seats at ht. Quote
boogs Posted Sunday at 18:23 Posted Sunday at 18:23 6 minutes ago, tomski said: I’m sure we will find out more. They kept at it all game time 80 mins when a couple of them came over to say bye. For context I am right at the back and wasn’t asked to sit once. An impressive amount of wasted man power used and a poor lady who had to clean bird poo off a few seats at ht. Keep us updated. I'm nosey bastard at heart 😂 Quote
Stig Posted Sunday at 19:01 Posted Sunday at 19:01 39 minutes ago, tomski said: I’m sure we will find out more. They kept at it all game time 80 mins when a couple of them came over to say bye. For context I am right at the back and wasn’t asked to sit once. An impressive amount of wasted man power used and a poor lady who had to clean bird poo off a few seats at ht. I never understand the issues the stewards have with standing. We get negativity about the atmosphere being flat but there are only a few areas of the ground that generate atmosphere and they rely on fans congregating and standing. We have the OG crazy corner at the south end of the east lower, the section above it in the east upper, and south part of west lower which all have standing. North stand is the outlier which doesn't seem to have any standing area and I have no idea where the chants come from but there are some. As a north end of the east lower I'm absolutely in favour of these areas continuing to stand and create atmosphere while I get to sit down. Quote
DaisyHWanderer Posted Sunday at 19:03 Posted Sunday at 19:03 1 hour ago, tomski said: The Stewards said it’s the only bit of the ground the club is arsed about and supposedly the EFL aren’t happy with it. I suspect the truth may be a tad different Is it covered by tv cameras? Assumingly ESL is too though so doesn't make sense Quote
tomski Posted Sunday at 19:29 Posted Sunday at 19:29 24 minutes ago, DaisyHWanderer said: Is it covered by tv cameras? Assumingly ESL is too though so doesn't make sense Yes and yes. The camera is shot near us but they have cameras all over from the security room. They aren’t bothered about ESL apparently. Doesn’t make any sense but what we were told. Quote
desperado Posted Sunday at 19:51 Posted Sunday at 19:51 4 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said: Does anyone know why there were no BW fans in ESL yesterday? Can't be to do with expected demand, not much different yesterday to any Saturday game. Unless they've decided to sack it apart from big games? 19 minutes ago, tomski said: Yes and yes. The camera is shot near us but they have cameras all over from the security room. They aren’t bothered about ESL apparently. Doesn’t make any sense but what we were told. I’m genuinely confused as to what you’re talking about, what happened and where!? 😂 I didn’t spot anything going on. No Bolton fans in ESL? I was there? 😂 Quote
Casino Posted Sunday at 19:57 Posted Sunday at 19:57 I think he meant SSL On the subject of standing, I can understand it on the first 2 rows or so Quote
desperado Posted Sunday at 19:59 Posted Sunday at 19:59 1 minute ago, Casino said: I think he meant SSL On the subject of standing, I can understand it on the first 2 rows or so But I thought @tomski sat in ESU? Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted Sunday at 20:03 Posted Sunday at 20:03 I think @tomski might've been replying to the below 3 hours ago, gonzo said: What's the craic with the ESU getting grief for standing? Quote
Casino Posted Sunday at 20:10 Posted Sunday at 20:10 10 minutes ago, desperado said: But I thought @tomski sat in ESU? Yes I think bonzo meant SSL Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted Sunday at 20:19 Posted Sunday at 20:19 26 minutes ago, desperado said: I’m genuinely confused as to what you’re talking about, what happened and where!? 😂 I didn’t spot anything going on. No Bolton fans in ESL? I was there? 😂 Apologies, I meant SSL as @Casino says. Could have sworn I'd edited it ages ago! Done now. Quote
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