This Weather.....

[Spider]

 

[green genie]

10 hours ago, MickyD said:

They’re already doing that in USA. Opposite way round at the moment where the inhabitants of the northern states head south for winter. Known as ‘Snowbirds’ they massively increase Florida’s population during the north’s snowfall period.

I’m no expert but there must be some middle ground between the snowy north and hot-as-fuck south where folk from both areas can escape their own areas.

Slight problem is that’s where tornadoes form.

[gonzo]

8 hours ago, Spider said:

 

Closer to boiling point than freezing 🤦‍♂️

[globaldiver]

https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/paris-climate-financing-summit-disappointing-outcomes-by-jayati-ghosh-et-al-2023-07?utm_source=Project+Syndicate+Newsletter&utm_campaign=61a9aa3278-sunday_newsletter_07_16_2023&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_73bad5b7d8-61a9aa3278-107662454&mc_cid=61a9aa3278&mc_eid=3e352da565

[Spider]

17 minutes ago, globaldiver said:

https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/paris-climate-financing-summit-disappointing-outcomes-by-jayati-ghosh-et-al-2023-07?utm_source=Project+Syndicate+Newsletter&utm_campaign=61a9aa3278-sunday_newsletter_07_16_2023&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_73bad5b7d8-61a9aa3278-107662454&mc_cid=61a9aa3278&mc_eid=3e352da565

Hard to think the poorest countries on earth are big Co2 producers or, more pertinently, likely to spend any money on climate change when they’re skint.

The onus is on the “big boys”

[Not in Crawley]

17 hours ago, Sweep said:

Nice here, a 9 mile walk around Rutland Water, with the doggies. Just got back home and been invited to a mates BBQ. Summer is here 

It is indeed - this sort of temp is perfect.

View from path fro Eynesford down to Lullingstone...

[L/H White]

58 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

It is indeed - this sort of temp is perfect.

View from path fro Eynesford down to Lullingstone...

that would look lovely with 1000 houses on it

[Not in Crawley]

28 minutes ago, L/H White said:

that would look lovely with 1000 houses on it

That view is two miles from the M25, in one of the most densely populated parts of England. Dartford Crossing is only eight or so miles away from that hill. Actually that field is full of broad bean plants, and the field before in wheat so as the signs says, please don't pick as we're producing your food. That house is actually the site of Lullingstone Roman Villa, so can't be built on.

 

[globaldiver]

6 hours ago, Spider said:

Hard to think the poorest countries on earth are big Co2 producers or, more pertinently, likely to spend any money on climate change when they’re skint.

The onus is on the “big boys”

How will the big boys fund?

[Spider]

9 minutes ago, globaldiver said:

How will the big boys fund?

From all that massive GDP we keep being told we are making more of. 👍♟️

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

3 minutes ago, Spider said:

From all that massive GDP we keep being told we are making more of. 👍♟️

 

Except we're not are we. Nor is gdp relevant if it drops per person.

It's all very well saying we should fund these places, but they're not always reliable, as we see with foreign aid.

Has to be some sort of covenant, whereby those funding get better assurances, or its just more money down the drain.

[Spider]

6 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Except we're not are we. Nor is gdp relevant if it drops per person.

It's all very well saying we should fund these places, but they're not always reliable, as we see with foreign aid.

Has to be some sort of covenant, whereby those funding get better assurances, or its just more money down the drain.

I was being a little glib.

A lot of these former French and British colonies will do whatever they can to survive. The African countries in particular are the poorest on earth and won’t give a fuck about wind farms and Teslas and British holidaymakers having to wait until 5pm to get into the acropolis.

The Big Boys need to make sure they get their own houses in order first and cut CO2.

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Of course we must put our own house in order.

I don't accept developing nations aren't interested in renewables. If they are investing/have oil supplies then they can use that wealth in the same way we are.

South Africa one other African nation (Algeria?) already produce more co2 annually than we do, so they have the money to do so. They could also share that with poorer African nations.

If they are further behind, then they can avoid the mistakes we made and jump straight into the modern world utilising the technologies we now have. Payment is the problem, and I'll repeat some agreements must be made in that regard.

 

[gonzo]

Think China and Russia are the problem.

[globaldiver]

7 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Think China and Russia are the problem.

Their agendas seem to be quite some way from the western big boys

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Just now, gonzo said:

Think China and Russia are the problem.

Mainly, but China is also installing more renewables than anyone else, as well as making big inroads into exports, for example battery technology. Yes they use a lot of fossil fuels, but they see the market for "green tech" and pursue it.

Unfortunately, it seems some see it as a dirty word and cannot accept the economic and environmental benefits we can all have.

[globaldiver]

Anyone cancelled their 2 week in Spain yet?

[Spider]

30 minutes ago, globaldiver said:

Anyone cancelled their 2 week in Spain yet?

My sister says it’s as hot as she’s known it in the 30 years she’s lived there.

Today was ridiculous apparently.

Im still going, but a new aircon system in our apartment is a large factor. No aircon, and I’d be giving it a miss if the forecasts were the same

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Aircon powered by renewables I hope.

 

Saw an interview with a bloke in Italy earlier- lives out there and people go for holidays to his place.

He reckons they don't have aircon in his area, as they spoil the buildings!

[Spider]

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Aircon powered by renewables I hope.

 

Saw an interview with a bloke in Italy earlier- lives out there and people go for holidays to his place.

He reckons they don't have aircon in his area, as they spoil the buildings!

Solar panels and me sat on an exercise bike

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 minutes ago, Spider said:

Solar panels and me sat on an exercise bike

Not melting in the sun then, as some of the doom mongers say they do?

[Spider]

Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Not melting in the sun then, as some of the doom mongers say they do?

I was there last week and it was fucking baking hot.

My sister just put on the family group chat that it’s unbearable in the direct sunlight this afternoon. The bloke who works at the bar is from Seville, so knows a thing or 2 about a hot day, and even he packed it in at 2pm and shut the bar til 7.

Look, it’s Spain, it’s hot. That’s not unusual, but the ferocity really is summert else.

2 more weeks of it as well.

[royal white]

And look at us chilling in 16/17 with a splash of rain! 
 

Brexit benefits innit 

[Spider]

1 minute ago, royal white said:

And look at us chilling in 16/17 with a splash of rain! 
 

Brexit benefits innit 

It’s what I voted for

[gonzo]

16 minutes ago, royal white said:

And look at us chilling in 16/17 with a splash of rain! 
 

Brexit benefits innit 

That jet stream makes us what we are.