Signs He's Getting It Right / Will Get It Right

[jules_darby]

Dougie that is

 

I'm not in the pro camp at the minute but I'm willing to be persuaded (bipolar as Snoopy appeared to call anyone who's open to review evidence and then decide rather than just have a set position of positive or negative whatever the circumstance)

 

So, for the pro-DF camp, give us the signs....

 

This isn't a glib request I'm genuinely interested to try an see what you see (and certainly not just a Dougie bashing thread - I just want positives please)

Edited December 30, 2013 by jules_darby

[anewman]

The table and statistics don't lie

[jules_darby]

Ok J I get that but I just want to see what the "other lot" have that's making them still believe

 

Let's not turn this thread into the same old shite by both "sides"

[Juan.Kerr]

Forwards scoring fairly regularly, when they get a game.

[Carlos]

Nope Jules, that's the way it is, those that shout the loudest/most are correct. Even when they offer nothing.

 

I'm not a Dougie fan, he's had sufficient time and I don't see anything in terms of improvement or progress. But it was right that he was given time. For me that time is now up.

 

I don't see any better way e.g. get Malky Mackay, as you'd need to be on a crackpipe to think that's ever going to happen. And I'm not a boring cunt who's going to post the same thing over and over again on whatever platform I've got access to as that takes us back to the mental health thread.

[Sweep]

The way I see it is that he was brought in to do a very difficult job, he doesn't seem to be doing that job very well at the minute in my opinion. Do we sack him or not? - If he went I don't think I would be overly concerned, I'm not sure who would come in though. If he's staying, and it looks like he is, then we have to stick with him until around 6 or 7 games into next season to see if he starts off next year as we need to in order to at least make it look like we have a chance for challenging for a top 6 finish

[Horwich]

How long of a cintract did we give him?

[Horwich]

3 year deal worth £1.5m

[Pie Eater]

How long of a cintract did we give him?

Twi and a half years

[Wullie]

With our lack of funds, some of the out of work managers quoted by some wouldn't come here, as we can't offer them sufficient transfer funds and I'm not sure we can afford them anyway. Ignoring the youngsters, he has tried everyone in the first team that is available, he has tried different formations etc...okay sometime sit doesn't work, but I see he is at least trying to do something.

In all honesty Jules, I look at this and see he is trying, that fact that most of these players were first team regulars in the prem, and can't seem to get any form in the Championship, says more about their attitude than his lack of nouse.

 

In a poor season, it helps my sanity to look for the positives, than focus on our obvious frailties

[1969]

I personally would give him more time and no I'm not blinkered

 

Let the dead wood go in summer and see what he does (finances allowing)

If no improvement early doors next season get rid

We all no his hands are tied and I don't think playing kids in a struggling team would benefit them

What's his plan I don't know and neither does anyone on here

I'm hoping he'll come good but all we can do is wait and see

 

Pros. Cons

To defensive at times

Wage bill down. To much respect to lesser teams

Not afraid to drop high earners. To much tinkering

Knows were we need strengthening Plays a formation some players cannot play

Hopefully learning from mistakes

Good loan signings

Edited December 30, 2013 by 1969

[glossopWANDERER]

 positives - once on a run of form he is capable of keeping spirits high to prolong a run, if he is able to get lucky and sign the correct defenders in the transfer market i could see him being able to achieve consistent clean sheets.

 

 

 

if he left / sacked would we be able to get better -  yes even with the debt and lack of spending power we are still an attractive club at championship level. we have the ability within the squad that with adding good loans / cheap signing we should challenge for promotion in 2014/15

 

[Guest]

In summary

 

• Forwards scoring fairly regularly
• he is trying
• on a run of form he is capable of keeping spirits high to prolong a run

[Traf]

Forwards scoring regularly?

 

Where?

[Juan.Kerr]

In my defence I said fairly regularly, qualifying it with when they get a game.

[Traf]

In my defence I said fairly regularly, qualifying it with when they get a game.

So, you actually meant Beckford?

[Juan.Kerr]

And Moritz

[Traf]

And Moritz

He's a forward, is he?

[Mounts Kipper]

I'd say he's in credit with the recent loan signings and that's about it.

[Rembrandt]

I've seen 12 League games this season, including 3 away. Plus one away League Cup tie and two pre-season friendlies (one home, one away).

 

I want the Wanderers to play good football, get good results, and finish top-half of the Championship (or higher when possible). So it follows that I want whatever owner, chairman, manager & team we have at any given time to be successful in achieving that.

 

Sadly, at the moment, all the evidence in front of my eyes says 'no' to the question asked. And it's painful to watch.

[smeghead83]

Involving Moritz more, 4 goals in December for him. Pushing Ngog down the pecking order is a plus for me too. If and when he gets another chance he might be more inclined to seize it.

[Carlos]

If he scores any more, we'll get slagged off for not signing Moritz up for 5 years or whatever.

[beer_swiller]

Sort out those two full back positions (especially right back) and we'll begin to get results, until then nothing will change.

 

Were being torn apart by pace every week.

[onlyoneawalker]

Professionalism behind the scenes is back in the 21st century thankfully

[SnoopJohnnyJohn]

(bipolar as Snoopy appeared to call anyone who's open to review evidence and then decide rather than just have a set position of positive or negative whatever the circumstance)

 

To be fair, I was more referring to those who consider a win by 1 goal as the best result ever, and then are calling for the manager's head after a loss by 1 goal. I probably posted in the wrong place as I was back and forth between a couple of "heated" threads yesterday.

Edited December 30, 2013 by SnoopJohnnyJohn