beer_swiller Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Stay up this season, rid the dross of the Coyle era, allow Freedman to gather a squad he believes adequate to survive another season or become hard to beat, failing that were fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianofcleveleys Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I thought the fact that 11k Wanderers turned up after the unadulterated shite served up at home this season and off the back of a 7-1 defeat was an impressive show of loyalty.Agreed, only 1000 less than Blackburn had on for what ought to have been a pretty attractive league game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoopJohnnyJohn Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Gets marked by their best aerial defender. . Gives our aerial attack more chance. Don't be silly... Don't you know you're only a good player if you do good stuff with the ball. Working off the ball? What a silly concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannyroad58 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Agreed, only 1000 less than Blackburn had on for what ought to have been a pretty attractive league game Saying it was only a tenner for adults and a fiver for 23 year olds and under i would say it was a piss poor turn out, apart from the club giving all the tickets out for free i don't know what more they can do to attracted lazy bastards back to the ground and before you all go off on 1 i mean the commercial dept not the playing staff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianofcleveleys Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 £15 for adults actually. We had more on than Wigan or Birmingham who were also playing lower end Prem opposition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannyroad58 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 £15 for adults actually. We had more on than Wigan or Birmingham who were also playing lower end Prem opposition £15 is still fuck all and i couldn't give a flying fuck about Wigan and Birmingham our support is fucking dog shit the ground was over 1/2 empty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianofcleveleys Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I'm really not sure why you'd be expecting us to rolling up in our droves when we're 18th in the league, got beat 7-1 last week, the opposition weren't a big draw and people's money's tight first month after Christmas. Saturday's crowd stood up against any of our home crowds for an early round FA cup tie in recent years. Last season, v Sunderland, round 3 at home, 12,204. Season before, v Swansea, 4th round at home, 11,597. Anyway, we'll beg to differ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 27, 2014 Moderators Share Posted January 27, 2014 so, what does that say, then crowds up at the reebok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannyroad58 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I'm really not sure why you'd be expecting us to rolling up in our droves when we're 18th in the league, got beat 7-1 last week, the opposition weren't a big draw and people's money's tight first month after Christmas. Saturday's crowd stood up against any of our home crowds for an early round FA cup tie in recent years. Last season, v Sunderland, round 3 at home, 12,204. Season before, v Swansea, 4th round at home, 11,597. Anyway, we'll beg to differ It's been far far worse than 18th in the table in the championship and yes i do expect more than 11,000 to turn up for a home 4th round FA cup tie no matter who the opposition is and no matter what year you want to go back too, thus backing up my argument that our support is fucking dog shit, not just this year.......most years I agree, lets beg to differ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COYW Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 thus backing up my argument that our support is fucking dog shit, not just this year.......most years In comparison to other clubs of similar size, status and location it isn't. Your argument is nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Thought it was a good crowd myself more than the massive 2nd City Birmingham (who's support goes unnoticed absolute shit support) and just less than Blackburn who were playing a decent league game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfc2003 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I agree with Mannyroader - it may have been better than wigan and brum got but its still shit - people moaned that the reebok was only built for 25k capacity - can you imagine if they had built a 30/40k capacity ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I agree with Mannyroader - it may have been better than wigan and brum got but its still shit - people moaned that the reebok was only built for 25k capacity - can you imagine if they had built a 30/40k capacity ground What's your point? We didn't because that would've been stupid as we'd never have filled it. We're capable of filling this stadium, as we've shown. When the going gets tough though, the fans stop going. This isn't a new thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted January 27, 2014 Moderators Share Posted January 27, 2014 When we were filling it, if there was another 10K on, maybe Sam would have got the money for Ronaldinho, Luca Toni and Ribery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidjack Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 The FA Cup isn't what it was - the advent of the Premier League saw to that. Allardyce never took it seriously. The majority of our support these days is made up of season ticket holders - who were being asked to cough up for this. 15 quid is a lot to many folk in the worst recession in a century. And why the fuck should anyone have to justify going or not going right now to watch that bunch of overpaid, underperforming sorry excuse for professional footballers, led by a guy who demonstrates on a weekly basis he doesn't know his arse from his elbow?! The question should be why did 11 thousand people not have something better to do with their lives on a cold, rainy Saturday afternoon? And I speak as one who didn't... and went. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Surely you're not suggesting that those hit so hard by the recession can afford a season ticket but not £15? I'd say it's not being able to afford but rather not wanting to. Not judging anyone here, just saying that £15 isn't a prohibitive fee as I read your post to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rembrandt Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 The FA Cup isn't what it was - the advent of the Premier League saw to that. Allardyce never took it seriously. The majority of our support these days is made up of season ticket holders - who were being asked to cough up for this. 15 quid is a lot to many folk in the worst recession in a century. And why the fuck should anyone have to justify going or not going right now to watch that bunch of overpaid, underperforming sorry excuse for professional footballers, led by a guy who demonstrates on a weekly basis he doesn't know his arse from his elbow?! The question should be why did 11 thousand people not have something better to do with their lives on a cold, rainy Saturday afternoon? And I speak as one who didn't... and went. Hear, hear. But calling our own fans 'dogshit' is a really good way of getting them back into the Reebok, I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidjack Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I'm saying people who've put 3 or 400 quid into the club already (plus whatever other match day costs they incur, plus aways in many cases) can be forgiven for not wanting to splash out yet more, whether 15 quid or a fiver or whatever. Especially if they've been to other Cup games over the past decade or so and seen that more often than not the club isn't arsed compared with staying in the Prem. Never understood why we can't offer a handful of Cup games as part of season ticket - as other clubs do - as a small thank you to those who've stumped up the previous summer. And as I say, the floating fan pool isn't like it was and isn't going to be tempted by 15 quid tickets to watch Cardiff...just cos they're cheaper than league prices. It just serves to highlight how crazy on the day league prices are. For what it's worth, I think our crowds have held up well - 18k last season and just under 16 so far this (and that's before we've played any derbies). Hopefully it shows that our Premier League years have boosted our core support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianofcleveleys Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I'm saying people who've put 3 or 400 quid into the club already (plus whatever other match day costs they incur, plus aways in many cases) can be forgiven for not wanting to splash out yet more, whether 15 quid or a fiver or whatever. Especially if they've been to other Cup games over the past decade or so and seen that more often than not the club isn't arsed compared with staying in the Prem. Never understood why we can't offer a handful of Cup games as part of season ticket - as other clubs do - as a small thank you to those who've stumped up the previous summer. And as I say, the floating fan pool isn't like it was and isn't going to be tempted by 15 quid tickets to watch Cardiff...just cos they're cheaper than league prices. It just serves to highlight how crazy on the day league prices are. For what it's worth, I think our crowds have held up well - 18k last season and just under 16 so far this (and that's before we've played any derbies). Hopefully it shows that our Premier League years have boosted our core support. Agreed, as DazBob said, when things go downhill so do crowds, especially if promotion back to the big time isn't immediate. Look at Middlesbrough, all but filling a 35,000 stadium in their Prem heyday, down to 13-14k after a couple of mediocre seasons in the Championship. I did see what looked to be quite a few dads with young lads having either a first or occasional visit on Saturday so good for them, pity they had to witness such dreary fare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoopJohnnyJohn Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Never understood why we can't offer a handful of Cup games as part of season ticket - as other clubs do - as a small thank you to those who've stumped up the previous summer. Think you've already answered that in your previous post, where you said that most who go to the cup games are the season ticket holders... 11,000 @ 15 quid = 165,000 which they'd be throwing away. Besides, 15 quid is nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted January 27, 2014 Moderators Share Posted January 27, 2014 Does the gate not get split 3 ways? Sorry FA/away team, there's no money as we let folk in for free... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoopJohnnyJohn Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Does the gate not get split 3 ways? Sorry FA/away team, there's no money as we let folk in for free... But at least the club would be being nice for a change. About time they gave something back if you ask me, all those fans turning up every week... [/sarcasm] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidjack Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 They've been throwing 165 grand a way every 5 weeks on Ngog...so your point is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 27, 2014 Moderators Share Posted January 27, 2014 Maybe if we'd taken the quick quid cash we'd be able to let folk in for nowt Or at least turn the lights on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter HomerJay Posted January 27, 2014 Site Supporter Share Posted January 27, 2014 Can we blame the shit fans again please. Boooooo, fans out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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