Lack Of Signings

[Traf]

Are we not linked with Lampard yet?

[Pablo]

Under Gartside's chairmanship we are £160 million in debt and have a team that's just finished in the bottom half of the 2nd Division...

 

 

Under Gartside's chairmanship, you have had 3 current England players play for you, world cup winners, and played in proper Europe for the first and second time in your clubs history, and finished in the top 6 of the Top league 3 years on the bounce.....

[Casino]

i suppose it depends if you think being in europe is the norm or an almighty blip

[Zico]

being pedantic, it was top 8, 4 years in a row

 

regardless of who's to blame for what came next, it wasn't a blip, we were on the up, had momentum and deserved it , even coyle and megson has us sniffing at the top 10

 

then it all went to shit

[Mounts Kipper]

We borrowed money from the banks in the 80's. There's a big difference. We would have needed capacity crowds for every home game to pay off the debts we had back then. The Burnden Lifeline, Normid and selling the family silver, effectively saved us. The supporters were at least partly responsible for keeping the club going.

Your right the brilliant supporters who kept going helped bring the club back for the record there were about 5000 who kept it going the 15-20,000 who stopped going did virtually jack shit because they didn't care enough. History seems to repeat itself.

Edited June 3, 2014 by Mounts Kipper

[Carlos]

This is exactly my point. In 1987 I stood on the Burnden Terrace singing "we'll support you ever more". 3 and a half thousand of us some weeks, hardcore eh.

 

It's 2014 and we are still here eh. What I don't remember from them days was some tedious cunt droning on about the good old days.

[COYW]

Your right the brilliant supporters who kept going helped bring the club back for the record there were about 5000 who kept it going the 15-20,000 who stopped going did virtually jack shit because they didn't care enough. History seems to repeat itself.

 

The people who kept going didn't save the club. It helped but it wouldn't have been enough on it's own. It wouldn't have been enough if we'd had three times that number going. The debts were too big. I'd argue that the Burnden Lifeline played a much bigger role and not everyone who bought tickets went to the games.

[Mounts Kipper]

The people who kept going didn't save the club. It helped but it wouldn't have been enough on it's own. It wouldn't have been enough if we'd had three times that number going. The debts were too big. I'd argue that the Burnden Lifeline played a much bigger role and not everyone who bought tickets went to the games.

I agree that's why I said "helped" there were plenty selling tickets and paying lifeline who maybe didn't go to games and they to played their part. What we have now is a substantial amount of supporters who have stopped going and still have a lot to say and mostly negative and sadly I include lads who I've been going to the game with for 30 plus years through thick and thin and shared scrapes and bumps over a long long time my message is the same to them if you can't bring a modicum of positivity and balance just negativity don't call me and I won't call you when Saturday comes.

[Pablo]

My dad has paid his lifeline since it started.

 

You are all welcome.

[gonzo]

Bullshit

[COYW]

I agree that's why I said "helped" there were plenty selling tickets and paying lifeline who maybe didn't go to games and they to played their part.

 

Fair enough but then you don't know whether the '15-20,000 who stopped going' weren't doing their bit in other ways. It doesn't necessarily mean they were doing jack shit. You've also got to bear in mind that attendances were down throughout the leagues in the 80's. An average attendance of 5,000 doesn't sound a lot now, but there were other clubs that were doing better than us and weren't pulling in many more.

[COYW]

My dad has paid his lifeline since it started.

 

You are all welcome.

 

Lifeline was a genius idea. We even sold the format to a load of other football, rugby and cricket clubs. Whoever thought of it should have a stand named after them.

[Mounts Kipper]

Alf Davies wasn't it?

[HazzyinBolton]

Yes it was Alf - He's still to be found hanging round the Whites hotel. Well retired now but still uses the gym there I believe.

[Guest JamesBond]

The Kia deal is only days away from going though.

 

Then we will sign Carrens form FC Kawasaki

I wont hold me breathe over this Kia deal.

[land_and_sea]

Maybe Eddie hasn't wiped out our 160 million debt(paper debt) for reasons we

haven't thought of. For example, he puts the team up for sale and someone comes along and

says I'd buy the team but for the 160 million debt. Eddie says okay I'll reduce the debt to 40 million and the guy says you're on, I'll buy the team. Eddie lines his pockets a little more this way.

These business people work in strange ways.

[Ghana White]

I can't be doing with the Gartside hate. He's just a bloke doing a job in pretty hard circumstances at the moment. He's made some mistakes but who hasn't, people forget the success under him. Plus he's genuinely a bolton fan. As bolty says you're 51% alright in that case.

[MalcolmW]

 

Maybe Eddie hasn't wiped out our 160 million debt(paper debt) for reasons we

haven't thought of. For example, he puts the team up for sale and someone comes along and

says I'd buy the team but for the 160 million debt. Eddie says okay I'll reduce the debt to 40 million and the guy says you're on, I'll buy the team. Eddie lines his pockets a little more this way.

These business people work in strange ways.

 

 

or cuts his losses, to be more accurate. Nothing strange about it, though.

[jules_darby]

I can't be doing with the Gartside hate. He's just a bloke doing a job in pretty hard circumstances at the moment. He's made some mistakes but who hasn't, people forget the success under him. Plus he's genuinely a bolton fan. As bolty says you're 51% alright in that case.

He's genuine alright

 

Genuinely a cunt

 

Success or not

[tomski]

I can't be doing with the Gartside hate. He's just a bloke doing a job in pretty hard circumstances at the moment. He's made some mistakes but who hasn't, people forget the success under him. Plus he's genuinely a bolton fan. As bolty says you're 51% alright in that case.

You're 51% alright???? its a good saying.

[victor meldrew]

This is exactly my point. In 1987 I stood on the Burnden Terrace singing "we'll support you ever more". 3 and a half thousand of us some weeks, hardcore eh.

 

It's 2014 and we are still here eh. What I don't remember from them days was some tedious cunt droning on about the good old days.

was it you throwing bananas ?

[Guest Blixa]

This is exactly my point. In 1987 I stood on the Burnden Terrace singing "we'll support you ever more". 3 and a half thousand of us some weeks, hardcore eh.

It's 2014 and we are still here eh. What I don't remember from them days was some tedious cunt droning on about the good old days.

That's probably because we didn't have the internet then. If you did drone on, some other cunt stood near you would shut you up sharpish.

 

Likewise, I don't remember anyone talking nostalgically about football violence from years previous or anyone having any interest in the chairman's every bloody utterance or action.

[Guest JamesBond]

That's probably because we didn't have the internet then. If you did drone on, some other cunt stood near you would shut you up sharpish.

 

Likewise, I don't remember anyone talking nostalgically about football violence from years previous or anyone having any interest in the chairman's every bloody utterance or action.

That's cause we didn't know what went on under previous regimes. Even the Bolton News tends to write every word or utterance, when in the past that didn't happen. BTW aren't all these hooligan films 'nostalgia' of football violence? There's one out at the moment. A send up, but nonetheless it's really notagila for football hooliganism.

 

I was part of that 3000 and many wanted the chairman to go though. It was usually blame it on the Warburtons though. Funny though when the success came it wasn't the board that got the plaudits, it was Bruce Rioch and Sam Allardyce.

 

I've met Phil Gartside, briefly, can't say I like the guy, but he does a job. I don't think the club has been as effective in marketing itself over the years, whilst PG has been in charge, but nevertheless we all have our own ideas and opinions. Changes of managers though are always a risky business and most people on boards, that I've read, always have a go at PG for that. 

[Guest]

Are we not linked with Lampard yet?

 

Are we not linked with Lampard yet?

 

 

He can't raise the funds to buy us

[Traf]

He can't raise the funds to buy us

 

No ambition