Who Should You Vote For?

[Youri McAnespie]

Ta, you're alreet too.

[Guest]

Who, me or Arthur?

 

Anyway, the big guns are out now, after past endorsements from Alan Whicker, Stan Lee and Jim Royle.

 

The campaign is ablaze, and the likes of you and your city buddies are shitting themselves...

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-wales-32384397

 

They want a 90% rate of income tax for earnings over £300,000 and a £12 MINIMUM wage.

 

And people were saying that a belief in trying to create an environment where companies would sign up to a living wage made me a commie. God knows what socialist labour voters would be.

 

Though interestingly they want to leave the EU. Why don't they just call themselves early 1980's Labour? Would be simpler to understand.

[no balls]

He looks like he could be dead before the election anyway

[Danny G]

He should have been done for Treason

[Youri McAnespie]

He looks like he could be dead before the election anyway

 

He'll be afforded a near state funeral as a much-loved champion of the people, there won't be street parties or rushes to download songs of poor taste upon his demise...

 

There might be downloads of songs to celebrate the great man's life and achievements, how about JLX versus Elvis 'A Little Less Conversation'?

[Youri McAnespie]

Cue the 'hypocrite Arthur' slanders because he had a council house and earned about £25k a year...

 

Like the other spokesman for the masses, Russell Brand is tarred with the hypocrite brush because he's rich, what do the haters expect him to do, give up all his wealth and go and live in an ashram?

Edited April 24, 2015 by Youri McAnespie

[Youri McAnespie]

I don't believe in £12 an hour for the lumpenproles, they'd only go out and buy more Golddigga clothing, widescreen tellies and other 'aspirational' items like fancy pizzas on wooden boards...

 

If they'd promise a portion of their new wages to supporting the revolution, then we'd be talking.

 

(if it's not patently obvious, I have real work to be doing and I'm idling on here writing bollocks as a means of procrastinating ).

[birch-chorley]

No problem.

 

I'll shut tomorrow and lay 80 staff off.

 

Piss easy.

 

Or I could up my prices by 15% and set the ball rolling to hyper inflation. Top effort.

 

As it happens our pay scale starts at £8ph but playing devils advocate if you think a lettuce picker should be on £20k a year you need to give your head a shake.

Exactly

 

I work in FMCG, the problem is everyone wants to pay rock bottom prices so retailers have to run a lean business to survive, otherwise they lose £6b like Tesco have this year

 

If we all paid that extra 10-15% for groceries then the supermarkets could pay their staff more - trouble is we've all fucked off to ALDI to buy them cheaper so it's not going to happen

[Traf]

Where is FMGC?

I thought you worked in London brewing Typhoo tea.

[COYW]

If we all paid that extra 10-15% for groceries then the supermarkets could pay their staff more

 

Or they could pay their management slightly less.

[BOWTUN BAKED]

Or they could pay their management slightly less.

You really don't have a clue, do you?

 

[birch-chorley]

Or they could pay their management slightly less.

Or they could get rid of checkout staff and have you do it yourself, sack all mid level managers in store then get rid of half the head office

 

But they have already done that and they're still fucked as we all want to pay the cheapest price possible

[COYW]

You really don't have a clue, do you?

 

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32408661

[exiledwhite2]

Or they could get rid of checkout staff and have you do it yourself, sack all mid level managers in store then get rid of half the head office

 

But they have already done that and they're still fucked as we all want to pay the cheapest price possible

 

Tesco bombed for numerous reasons of their own making, and price being driven down isn't one of them

 

Large part of their 'loss' is adjusting the value of land they own etc too, it's not a genuine 'loss' in the true sense, it's taking a hit now so they can deliver in future

 

Supermarkets could afford to pay more if they chose to. Whether they should is a different matter, I don't see why they should if they are getting the employees they need

[Carlos]

Do Tesco sell Twixes?

 

Sat outside Costa reading this on an afternoon off, shaking my head how much people advocating mass pay rises to improve moral and productivity are posting from work. It's a piss take.

[birch-chorley]

Tesco bombed for numerous reasons of their own making, and price being driven down isn't one of them

 

Large part of their 'loss' is adjusting the value of land they own etc too, it's not a genuine 'loss' in the true sense, it's taking a hit now so they can deliver in future

 

Supermarkets could afford to pay more if they chose to. Whether they should is a different matter, I don't see why they should if they are getting the employees they need

I think you'll find pricing strategy is a large part of the reason they have been losing market share and revenue to 'the discounters'

 

As we have seen with their 'project leaf' the move to EDLP across numerous categories to take on ALDI clearly is a decrease in price

 

Granted the bottom of the P&L is where most of the write downs came from but they are being squeezed due to price

[frank_spencer]

Aye my boss should fire me!

 

 

'Frank You're fired.'

 

'Ok Frank but your car insurance is up next month so you could do with making some money this month.'

 

'Frank you're hired.'

 

Still doesn't mean more businesses can't run along the lines of John Lewis Group.

The middle class commie bastuds

[BOWTUN BAKED]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32408661

Do it properly fella!

 

http://m.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/mobile/news/detail/12324881.html

[Youri McAnespie]

 

[Youri McAnespie]

Admittedly not my best work, I'm wondering if to waste a canvas on it, but this digital version can be authenticated upon a £10 donation to The Socialist Labour Party.

 

It's reminiscent of a piece I did for timed work for GCSE art, entitled 'gobshite', for which the utter philistines on the examining board awarded me an 'E'*.

 

 

* grade, not ecstasy.

[Youri McAnespie]

 

Sat outside Costa reading this on an afternoon off...It's a piss takeaway.

[bgoefc]

So they have £700 left to piss up the wall then.

 

 

As already said, food banks are by and large abused by those who don't really need them putting even further strain on those who actually need them such as the unemployed with families or the homeless.

 

 

If you take your angry eyes off you'll see earlier that starting wages at our place is 20% higher than minimum wage, and I prefer looking out for the man at the bottom and his job security rather than caring about how much Starbucks made.

 

Aside for that, you've no idea about me.

 

Never voted Tory, never been in Fanny's, never had a silver spoon up my arse, started working making shed panels at 14, worst day of my life was when I had the 'Unemployed' sticker put on my prison cell door so asked for a job cleaning toilets, got it, and got paid £7 a week which meant I could call home every night.

 

I took responsibility for my own actions and built something out of fuck all and ran it through the toughest recession in a century. I lost count of the number of times I didn't draw a wage so the lads could have theirs.

 

I lost it again when I got hammered with 2 large customers going bust, ended up in a rented flat with about £700 in the bank. I'd paid over a million in corporation tax and NI and never asked for a penny when it went tits up.

 

Guess what.

 

I started again from the bottom.

 

So aye, I've not much fucking sympathy for folk who want to feel sorry for themselves - the only people I know who are unemployed are those who want to be.

 

Thats me told.

 

However, I know quite a few good people who don't want to be.

[Andydee]

Exactly

 

I work in FMCG, the problem is everyone wants to pay rock bottom prices so retailers have to run a lean business to survive, otherwise they lose £6b like Tesco have this year

 

If we all paid that extra 10-15% for groceries then the supermarkets could pay their staff more - trouble is we've all fucked off to ALDI to buy them cheaper so it's not going to happen

 

 

 

I think you'll find pricing strategy is a large part of the reason they have been losing market share and revenue to 'the discounters'

 

As we have seen with their 'project leaf' the move to EDLP across numerous categories to take on ALDI clearly is a decrease in price

 

Granted the bottom of the P&L is where most of the write downs came from but they are being squeezed due to price

 

 

I'm no FMCG expert and agree Tesco are losing market share due to what are classed as 'the discounters' but are they actually 'discounting' or just providing a more economnical alternative. These are also the same ' discounters' who appear to me to be paying their checkout staff higher than 'living wage' and their management pay structure seems pretty reasonable as well. Sure someone told me a graduate on their management scheme will be on c £35k within 12 months. They do have to start stacking shelves though and they work bloody hard, they have to the stores are bursting at the seams with customers.

 

Exiledwhite2 has explained the writedown but seems to me Tesco don't have anywhere to go. They've squeezed suppliers, taken advantage of schemes to subsidise staff wages, become expert at 'confusion marketing' and grown fat on the proceeds. Problem is when push comes to shove, ie the downturn, people started looking for more economical alternatives and have kept with that philosophy. Why spunk money away when you can get equal or better value elsewhere?

 

I was going to Aldi when it was was a joke akin to Skoda. At the time it was out of necessity and 'cutting my cloth'. Times are much better thesde days but I still go to Aldi and haven't been in a Tesco for years bar for the odd item. I've also found I can get much better quality produce, and cheaper, at markets and even local shops.

[Boby Brno]

Thats me told.

 

However, I know quite a few good people who don't want to be.

I suppose everyone's opinion is formed by their own experience and circumstances but I tend to go with Smiffs opinion on unemployment. I've been thinking about everyone that I know. Family, friends and friends of friends and I can't think of anyone that is unemployed. That covers most of the social spectrum of someone, like me, with a typical working class background. I know lots of people though in jobs that they don't particularly like but that's pretty much normal for a lot of the population. Like Smiffs, I've had to change and adapt when things have gone tits up without ever having to rely on or blame the state. I went from travelling around Europe, business class, to delivering Yellow Pages and parcels to keep some money coming in. I'm not unsympathetic to anyone who is genuinely struggling (as I've had to on occasions) but it's too easy and self defeating, to put the blame on someone else.

[little whitt]

You're ace you Smiffs! I would 100% vote for you in an election.

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