Who Should You Vote For?

[bolty58]

As has been shown above, labour spending as a proportion of GDP was fine pre credit crunch

 

Maybe they should have squirrelled some away for a rainy day but every action has a reaction and that would have meant our GDP wouldn't have risen as high. I guess hindsight is a great thing, not many were banging the 'we are about to hit a financial disaster drum' pre credit crunch, the few that did got filthy rich.

 

We were always going to be first out of the trenches in the last recession as we have a fucking huge financial services sector and that's where it all kicked off. We need to take that on the chin and not throw the baby out with the bath water. There's not many industries we punch above our weight in but that's one.

 

One things for sure, if it wasn't for the last labour government borrowing tens of billions to bail out the banks & come up with a stimulus package when the entire private sector held its breath then our GDP would have tanked further into a certain depression (-10% GDP)

 

For the record all major developed countries also followed our lead and took this course of action - we just got clobbered more due to the size of our FS industry

 

Now I detest labours welfare spending and moleycodling of public sector workers but to give no credit for the handling of the external circumstances of the global credit crunch is obsered

 

The Tory government of the early 90's left a huge pile of shit too a fact that is glossed over by far too many

 

Absurd.

[Guest]

As has been shown above, labour spending as a proportion of GDP was fine pre credit crunch

 

Maybe they should have squirrelled some away for a rainy day but every action has a reaction and that would have meant our GDP wouldn't have risen as high. I guess hindsight is a great thing, not many were banging the 'we are about to hit a financial disaster drum' pre credit crunch, the few that did got filthy rich.

 

We were always going to be first out of the trenches in the last recession as we have a fucking huge financial services sector and that's where it all kicked off. We need to take that on the chin and not throw the baby out with the bath water. There's not many industries we punch above our weight in but that's one.

 

One things for sure, if it wasn't for the last labour government borrowing tens of billions to bail out the banks & come up with a stimulus package when the entire private sector held its breath then our GDP would have tanked further into a certain depression (-10% GDP)

 

For the record all major developed countries also followed our lead and took this course of action - we just got clobbered more due to the size of our FS industry

 

Now I detest labours welfare spending and moleycodling of public sector workers but to give no credit for the handling of the external circumstances of the global credit crunch is obsered

 

The Tory government of the early 90's left a huge pile of shit too a fact that is glossed over by far too many

 

 

The only course of action was to maintain spending, that I agree. To do otherwise would have been to deepen the downturn, like the 1930s.

 

I'd love to hear about the huge pile of shit left by the Conservatives in 1997. "New" labour were handed a golden tiket. Which, of course, they wasted.

[Guest]

The only course of action was to maintain spending, that I agree. To do otherwise would have been to deepen the downturn, like the 1930s.

 

I'd love to hear about the huge pile of shit left by the Conservatives in 1997. "New" labour were handed a golden tiket. Which, of course, they wasted.

 

Until the global recession the economic performance under Labour was better than under Major's government. A global recession is what happened to take things way off course.

 

Now you keep saying it was Labour's reckless spending to blame with no evidence for that. Perhaps you'd then address why Osborne in 2007, right before the crash pledged to match Labour's spending plans and said "the economic growth will outstrip government spending".

 

I'd have an awful lot more time for the argument that it was silly old Labour spending too much money again, if in 2007 Osborne had said we're spending too much and need to stop. Instead what he did was say he we can spend even more because the economy is going to keep on growing. Which is what everyone thought was going to happen at the time.

[Guest]

Until the global recession the economic performance under Labour was better than under Major's government.

 

 

 

 

I've read some things in my time, but that takes the biscuit.

[only1swanny]

I honestly don't know who the local mp is.. Nor any candidates..

[Youri McAnespie]

2nd June 2015

 

 

VOTE SOCIALIST LABOUR!

 

(That was a Party Political Broadcast by the Socialist Labour Party).

 

[DirtySanchez]

Caption competition MMXCMMMIV

 

 

Apparently in Westhoughton yesterday

[Traf]

Caption competition MMXCMMMIV

 

 

Apparently in Westhoughton yesterday

 

I can't take any more of this shit.

These supply teachers are fucking useless.

[tomski]

Why does this strange man keep supplying me with alcohol!

[Whites man]

PM plays invisible piano

[bgoefc]

Thought it might be interesting to see how many candidates each party has. This list has been filtered to exclude single independent candidates. Source: yournextmp.com

 

Nice to see the commies and whigs are still around and cannabis is safer than alcohol are putting up a good number with 24.

 

Not sure what "Justice for men and boys" party is all about.

 

Conservative Party 631

Labour Party 630

Liberal Democrats 624

UK Independence Party (UK I P) 615

Green Party 545

Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition 136

Scottish National Party (SNP) 63

Plaid Cymru - The Party of Wales 40

English Democrats 34 Scottish Green Party 31

Cannabis is Safer than Alcohol 24

Christian Peoples Alliance 21

Class War 20

Official Monster Raving Loony Party 20

Alliance - Alliance Party of Northern Ireland 18

SDLP (Social Democratic & Labour Party) 18

Conservative and Unionist Party 17

Sinn Fein 17

Ulster Unionist Party 15

National Health Action Party 13

Yorkshire First 13

Christian Party "Proclaiming Christ's Lordship" 12

Democratic Unionist Party - D.U.P. 10

The Socialist Party of Great Britain 10

Socialist Labour Party 9

Communist Party of Britain 8

Traditional Unionist Voice - TUV 7

Workers Revolutionary Party 7

British National Party 6

Left Unity 6

Mebyon Kernow - The Party for Cornwall 6

Pirate Party UK 6

The Respect Party 6

All People's Party 5

The Workers Party 5

Alliance For Green Socialism 4

Lincolnshire Independents Lincolnshire First 4

The Above and Beyond Party 4

The North East Party 4

The Peace Party - Non-violence, Justice, Environment 4

The Whig Party 4

Justice For Men & Boys 3

Lewisham People Before Profit 3

Liberty GB 3 Patriotic Socialist Party 3

We Are The Reality Party 3

Edited April 9, 2015 by bgoefc

[Traf]

No Lemon Party?

[tomski]

All peoples party, only 4 of them. The exclusive wankers

[kent_white]

I heard an interview with someone for the Justice for men and boys party a few weeks back. Basically their arguement goes that women's rights have gone so far that males are now actively discriminated against.

 

It was a load of old bollocks to be fair but if you want to listen to it he's on the Be Reasonable podcast episode 26 and he's called Mike Buchanan.

 

http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/podcasts/

[Guest Blixa]

I can't take any more of this shit.

These supply teachers are fucking useless.

...and why the fuck am I in school on a sunny day in the Easter holidays!

[bgoefc]

I heard an interview with someone for the Justice for men and boys party a few weeks back. Basically their arguement goes that women's rights have gone so far that males are now actively discriminated against.

 

It was a load of old bollocks to be fair but if you want to listen to it he's on the Be Reasonable podcast episode 26 and he's called Mike Buchanan.

 

http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/podcasts/

Yeah complete bollocks as you say. Surprised at Trade unionist and socialist coalition with 136. Thowt trade unions were behind labour, surely this will harm labour. Are these funded by trade unions or is it just a name?

[Guest Blixa]

Until the global recession the economic performance under Labour was better than under Major's government. A global recession is what happened to take things way off course.

 

Now you keep saying it was Labour's reckless spending to blame with no evidence for that. Perhaps you'd then address why Osborne in 2007, right before the crash pledged to match Labour's spending plans and said "the economic growth will outstrip government spending".

 

I'd have an awful lot more time for the argument that it was silly old Labour spending too much money again, if in 2007 Osborne had said we're spending too much and need to stop. Instead what he did was say he we can spend even more because the economy is going to keep on growing. Which is what everyone thought was going to happen at the time.

Of course.

 

A global recession, that was the issue and yes, the Tories said they would match the spending.

 

The austerity is all about politics rather than the economy. If you think differently, you've bought into the propaganda. I don't recall Gordon Brown running every economy in the western world.

 

I'm not even a card carrying Labour member and I can see how it's all panned out. Sad fact is, you've got a choice between more of it and a Labour Party in poor shape and with poor leadership. Or some waste of a vote for a minority like UKIP or the Libs. Worst options for a general election in my voting lifetime.

[frank_spencer]

I heard an interview with someone for the Justice for men and boys party a few weeks back. Basically their arguement goes that women's rights have gone so far that males are now actively discriminated against.

 

It was a load of old bollocks to be fair but if you want to listen to it he's on the Be Reasonable podcast episode 26 and he's called Mike Buchanan.

 

http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/podcasts/

There's loads of sorts like them knocking about call themselves menenists.

 

Usually spotty nerds who can't get laid so blame wimmin.

[Maggie Tate]

BNP 6!! How the mighty have fallen.

 

545 Greens most worryingly. They give me the heeby jeebies. I bet at least a third of them are ginger. I fly off back to work on the 23rd and hope the local wumman knocks on before then. Mad bitch.

[Guest]

Of course.

 

A global recession, that was the issue and yes, the Tories said they would match the spending.

 

The austerity is all about politics rather than the economy. If you think differently, you've bought into the propaganda. I don't recall Gordon Brown running every economy in the western world.

 

I'm not even a card carrying Labour member and I can see how it's all panned out. Sad fact is, you've got a choice between more of it and a Labour Party in poor shape and with poor leadership. Or some waste of a vote for a minority like UKIP or the Libs. Worst options for a general election in my voting lifetime.

Agree with some of that. We obviously had to reduce the deficit. And it's why I voted Conservative last time. Spending needed to be reduced after the bank bailouts. They've done half the job they said they would. Problem now as you say is that I do feel some of their rhetoric is so dishonest it is unreal. And Labour are doing the same by hiding their cut intentions.

 

Sick of it all and my vote is wavering day by day. Do think the Tories have made a mistake going so personal today on Miliband. His reaction was decent and the fact the Tories are just trying to run a smear campaign rather than discussing their record or indeed the future under their government is today pushing my voting needle towards Labour again. I do think all this pathetic small minded name calling is tiresome. And it could backfire on them as I think a lot of the electorate feel the same.

[mickbrown]

Of course.

 

A global recession, that was the issue and yes, the Tories said they would match the spending.

 

The austerity is all about politics rather than the economy. If you think differently, you've bought into the propaganda. I don't recall Gordon Brown running every economy in the western world.

 

I'm not even a card carrying Labour member and I can see how it's all panned out. Sad fact is, you've got a choice between more of it and a Labour Party in poor shape and with poor leadership. Or some waste of a vote for a minority like UKIP or the Libs. Worst options for a general election in my voting lifetime.

 

 

Amen brother

[Maggie Tate]

The austerity is all about politics rather than the economy. If you think differently, you've bought into the propaganda.

 

 

Yeah sure, there is no deficit! Agree or you're a brainwashed idiot! Bollocks. Even if the austerity were about politics, which it's not, good. More than half of us receive more spending than we contribute in tax. People need to get a fucking grip and stop expecting life to be lived for them. The state doesn't owe anybody a fucking thing and it's about time we stopped expecting it to deliver for us. It is this attitude of entitlement that has made this country into a collection of obese, whining, privileged, incapable and lazy parasites.

 

I'm not even a card carrying Labour member and I can see how it's all panned out. Sad fact is, you've got a choice between more of it and a Labour Party in poor shape and with poor leadership. Or some waste of a vote for a minority like UKIP or the Libs. Worst options for a general election in my voting lifetime.

 

 

Oh bollocks. Just go away. A crying shame when there are a mere thirteen extreme left wing parties to choose from, plus the, I dunno, hundred or so Labour candidates who reside on the extreme left of their party.

 

Green Party 545

Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition 136

Class War 20

The Socialist Party of Great Britain 10

Socialist Labour Party 9

Communist Party of Britain 8

Workers Revolutionary Party 7

Left Unity 6

The Respect Party 6

The Workers Party 5

Alliance For Green Socialism 4

Lewisham People Before Profit 3 

Patriotic Socialist Party 3

[Guest]

Yeah sure, there is no deficit! Agree or you're a brainwashed idiot! Bollocks. Even if the austerity were about politics, which it's not, good. More than half of us receive more spending than we contribute in tax. People need to get a fucking grip and stop expecting life to be lived for them. The state doesn't owe anybody a fucking thing and it's about time we stopped expecting it to deliver for us. It is this attitude of entitlement that has made this country into a collection of obese, whining, privileged, incapable and lazy parasites.

 

 

Oh bollocks. Just go away. A crying shame when there are a mere thirteen extreme left wing parties to choose from, plus the, I dunno, hundred or so Labour candidates who reside on the extreme left of their party.

 

Green Party 545

Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition 136

Class War 20

The Socialist Party of Great Britain 10

Socialist Labour Party 9

Communist Party of Britain 8

Workers Revolutionary Party 7

Left Unity 6

The Respect Party 6

The Workers Party 5

Alliance For Green Socialism 4

Lewisham People Before Profit 3 

Patriotic Socialist Party 3

You omitted the National Socialist Party of Scotland aka SNP

[Guest]

You omitted the National Socialist Party of Scotland aka SNP

You'd have a fair job voting for them this side of Hadrian's wall.

[no balls]

When do the candidates start canvassing?