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[kent_white]

If anyone is interested there was a really good programme on Radio 4 this morning about the supposed Decline of the West, and some interesting points about the current failure of Liberal positioning against the nation state, when the two things are not mutually exclusive but it becomes apposed when meeting hard right dogma, as there is no inference of rationality, just partisan 'for' or 'against' positions - or in Britain's case 'remain' or 'stay'.

 

This thread is a good example of ideas or reasoned arguments being simply seen as opposing, when one can clearly hold a multitude of positions without being a hypocrite or the rather more fruity 'traitor'.

 

Anyway, if you've a spare 25 minutes its a balanced programme that expands on some of the issues that are really in play on this board currently.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0931gt3#play

25 minutes??? Can't you condense it into meme form?

[madthatter]

25 minutes??? Can't you condense it into meme form?

 

You're a cunt

 

No, you're a cunt

 

Edited July 18, 2018 by madthatter

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Christ, can you delete that. Brain's gone tits up.

[bolty58]

That's why I suggested earlier military intervention might have been a solution. You know, to give Adolf a bloody nose so to speak? Do you read posts properly before getting on your high horse?

 

But I'll tell you what, let's have your sprinkling of socialism with JC at the helm. So the next time a racist dictator like Asad drops chemical weapons on innocents we do fuck all about it.

 

 

Have you seen the headline in today's Jewish Chronicle?

 

For the many not the Jew. Not sure how that bloke has kept his job but no doubt the supporters of Palestinian organisations have a lot to do with it.

 

https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/labour-mp-dame-margaret-hodge-jeremy-corbyn-1.467296

Edited July 19, 2018 by bolty58

[bolty58]

Nah, I can't agree that you deal with the anti-Jewish sentiment of the 1920s (racism) by exerting "control". The idea that nothing was done is a nonsense. People tried to oppose the rise in anti-semitism and far right nationalism. But ultimately things escalated. My point is that you deal with it by sorting out the racists. Not pandering to their racist opinions. 

 

 

I have you on ignore. Your red tinted spectacles are too much for me.

 

This one had to be answered though. How do you feel about 'sorting out the racists' amongst Corbyn and his sycophants? More anti-semitism amongst them than at a Fatah convention.

[madthatter]

Have you seen the headline in today's Jewish Chronicle?

 

For the many not the Jew. Not sure how that bloke has kept his job but no doubt the supporters of Palestinian organisations have a lot to do with it.

 

https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/labour-mp-dame-margaret-hodge-jeremy-corbyn-1.467296

 

Now i suspect you'll think I'm sticking up for JC, I'm not btw, but you can't sneeze next to a Jew without someone saying it's anti-Semitic.

 

I will happily call out the left's hypocrisies though - of which their views on Israel often seem to be.

Edited July 19, 2018 by madthatter

[mickbrown]

Now i suspect you'll think I'm sticking up for JC, I'm not btw, but you can't sneeze next to a Jew without someone saying it's anti-Semitic.

 

I will happily call out the left's hypocrisies though - of which their views on Israel often seem to be.

And the right's hypocrisy in calling out anti semites whilst seemingly every other race, nationality or creed can get to fuck?

[Ani]

Anyone who does not think JC is an incredibly dangerous politician is deluded.

 

He will ruin the Labour Party and if PM the country.

 

The scarey thing is the push to leave Europe and the divisions that is driving in Tories makes it more and more likely. Labour ahead in the polls by sitting their doing and saying nothing.

 

I usually vote Lab or Lib so not an anti Labour post but he is a cunt.

Edited July 19, 2018 by Ani

[barrycowdrill]

Anyone who does not think JC is an incredibly dangerous politician is deluded.

 

 

hate everything about him. The way he looks, the way he dresses, the shit he talks about & the type of people hes playing in to the arms of. the scruffy owd tramp twat 

[Guest]

Anyone who does not think JC is an incredibly dangerous politician is deluded.

 

He will ruin the Labour Party and if PM the country.

 

The scarey thing is the push to leave Europe and the divisions that is driving in Tories makes it more and more likely. Labour ahead in the polls by sitting their doing and saying nothing.

 

I usually vote Lab or Lib so not an anti Labour post but he is a cunt.

 

Dangerous? no. Not very good? yes.

[Zico]

Have you seen the headline in today's Jewish Chronicle?

 

For the many not the Jew. Not sure how that bloke has kept his job but no doubt the supporters of Palestinian organisations have a lot to do with it.

 

https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/labour-mp-dame-margaret-hodge-jeremy-corbyn-1.467296

 

I hope his retort was "how can I be a racist when I've shagged Dianne Abbott?"

[Ani]

Dangerous? no. Not very good? yes.

He is leader of the party currently ahead in all opinion polls. Do you think he would be dangerous as PM ?

[Guest]

He is leader of the party currently ahead in all opinion polls. Do you think he would be dangerous as PM ?

 

No. He's not very good at politics. I don't think he'd be very good as PM. He won't ever be PM.

The current PM is terrible at being PM.

 

We're fecked. 

[Sweep]

He is leader of the party currently ahead in all opinion polls. Do you think he would be dangerous as PM ?

 

I'm not sure he'd be dangerous, as I don't think he would get any of his policies through, once they were subject to full and proper scrutiny.

 

What I do worry about is him being PM, and being propped up by the SNP - I really could see a Labour/SNP coalition in Government. I honestly think that as each day goes by, the Conservatives are doing themselves more and more damage. The best thing Corbyn can do is just sit there and say nothing

[Zico]

depends what you mean by dangerous

 

Cameron could be viewed as dangerous with how brexit has turned out

[madthatter]

And the right's hypocrisy in calling out anti semites whilst seemingly every other race, nationality or creed can get to fuck?

 

Russia seem to be getting treated rather fairly of late . . .  

[Sweep]

This could get good....

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5969989/Google-attacks-EU-destroying-business-model-5billion-fine.html

 

I'm sure he wants to completely isolate the US

Edited July 19, 2018 by Sweep

[Boby Brno]

Nah, I can't agree that you deal with the anti-Jewish sentiment of the 1920s (racism) by exerting "control". The idea that nothing was done is a nonsense. People tried to oppose the rise in anti-semitism and far right nationalism. But ultimately things escalated. My point is that you deal with it by sorting out the racists. Not pandering to their racist opinions.

Anti-semitism was also prevalent in the ‘far left’ Soviet Union. History can become blurred depending on your political leanings.

The rise of the National Socialists in Germany had more to do with the fear of Communism than the Jews.

[Youri McAnespie]

I hope his retort was "how can I be a racist when I've shagged Dianne Abbott?"

How can I be racist, my girlfriend's black?

 

[Whites man]

And the right's hypocrisy in calling out anti semites whilst seemingly every other race, nationality or creed can get to fuck?

That’s a pointless and zero sum game to play and is one you see all over Twitter. The Right counter with the left’s hypocrisy in defending minorities unless they are Jewish and we still face the same sorry mess.

[madthatter]

That’s a pointless and zero sum game to play and is one you see all over Twitter. The Right counter with the left’s hypocrisy in defending minorities unless they are Jewish and we still face the same sorry mess.

 

Aye both as bad and gets no-one nowhere.

 

There's a quote from Julius Caesar about the Britons that I think is still relevant even today.

 

"Had they been inseparable they'd have been insuperable."  

 

Divide and conquer still going strong 2000+ years later  

[mickbrown]

That’s a pointless and zero sum game to play and is one you see all over Twitter. The Right counter with the left’s hypocrisy in defending minorities unless they are Jewish and we still face the same sorry mess.

Indeed.

[Alf Hartigan]

 

 

Divide and conquer still going strong 2000+ years later

 

Is that term often used by teachers, I've come across it a lot recently dealing with education

[gonzo]

To Iranian President Rouhani: NEVER, EVER THREATEN THE UNITED STATES AGAIN OR YOU WILL SUFFER CONSEQUENCES THE LIKES OF WHICH FEW THROUGHOUT HISTORY HAVE EVER SUFFERED BEFORE. WE ARE NO LONGER A COUNTRY THAT WILL STAND FOR YOUR DEMENTED WORDS OF VIOLENCE & DEATH. BE CAUTIOUS!

[Salford Trotter]

To Iranian President Rouhani: NEVER, EVER THREATEN THE UNITED STATES AGAIN OR YOU WILL SUFFER CONSEQUENCES THE LIKES OF WHICH FEW THROUGHOUT HISTORY HAVE EVER SUFFERED BEFORE. WE ARE NO LONGER A COUNTRY THAT WILL STAND FOR YOUR DEMENTED WORDS OF VIOLENCE & DEATH. BE CAUTIOUS!

To think that some thought he deserved the Nobel Peace prize????????????