Mounts Kipper Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, kent_white said: That said - we're not sure if it's true yet Hallelujah. Trump haters just hear a story and assume it’s true, hook line and sinker. Utter barm pots. Edited March 15, 2020 by Mounts Kipper Quote
Rudy Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Am I missing something here? If there was a finite number of vaccinations and I had the chance to acquire them for my country I would simple as that Does that not cause a bidding war? Is that not immoral? Do other countries not need it more than America first? Does it need to be made into a sale Quote
Escobarp Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Spider said: If he knows so much about viruses, as he claims, surely he can develop his own, rather than relying on some tinpot European backwater? Come on be serious spider. Would you acquire it for your own country first as a leader? Quote
Spider Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Hallelujah. Trump haters just hear a story and assume it’s true, hook line and sinker. Utter barm pots. Saves you justifying it. deep down, I think you’re uncomfortable with a lot of what he does as you’re a nice bloke. Just a little bit stubborn and dim. Quote
Escobarp Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Rudy’s Message said: Does that not cause a bidding war? Is that not immoral? Do other countries not need it more than America first? Does it need to be made into a sale Everyone needs it. But he’s there to look after his own first and foremost. Obviously I would like it here and everywhere to treat and protect our loved ones but I don’t see what he’s doing as that wrong or immoral. Maybe just me The company developing this is doing it for monetary gain for its shareholders. Same as every other vaccine and every medicine on the shelves. It’s no different in that respect Quote
Spider Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Escobarp said: Come on be serious spider. Would you acquire it for your own country first as a leader? No I’d offer to pay whatever it cost to buy it but join the queue with everyone else. Quote
Escobarp Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 Just now, Spider said: No I’d offer to pay whatever it cost to buy it but join the queue with everyone else. Sadly time spent in a queue playing nicely means more deaths. That’s how I see it. But we shall agree to disagree as not one to Labour the point over pal 👍🏻 Quote
royal white Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Rudy’s Message said: Does that not cause a bidding war? Is that not immoral? Do other countries not need it more than America first? Does it need to be made into a sale Who would be the immoral ones then? The Germans for upping the price? The German company aren’t doing this for free it’s business! If it be the corner shop selling hand sanitizer at a tenner a pop or countries having access to vaccines. Quote
Rudy Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Escobarp said: Everyone needs it. But he’s there to look after his own first and foremost. Obviously I would like it here and everywhere to treat and protect our loved ones but I don’t see what he’s doing as that wrong or immoral. Maybe just me The company developing this is doing it for monetary gain for its shareholders. Same as every other vaccine and every medicine on the shelves. It’s no different in that respect Ok so say for example, these vaccine chaps say right it goes first to the highest bidder. Italy have more cases than America, America have more money, so they get the nod? I just don’t think it’s a business decision but I understand why he thinks cash is king, that’s what always brought him to the dance Quote
Escobarp Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 Just now, Rudy’s Message said: Ok so say for example, these vaccine chaps say right it goes first to the highest bidder. Italy have more cases than America, America have more money, so they get the nod? I just don’t think it’s a business decision but I understand why he thinks cash is king, that’s what always brought him to the dance Sadly cash is king. Might be distasteful but it’s true. The company producing it is not in business to save the world but to maximise return for its shareholders. That’s just life. ideal world there is enough to go round. But there isn’t. also something isn’t quite right that a vaccine can be found so soon. Something stinks to me Quote
Rudy Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 Just now, royal white said: Who would be the immoral ones then? The Germans for upping the price? The German company aren’t doing this for free it’s business! If it be the corner shop selling hand sanitizer at a tenner a pop or countries having access to vaccines. Oh no doubt they’re a business they have bills to pay and margins to meet but America can financially strong arm any nation in the world but that doesn’t mean they should jump to the front of the queue because they’re Team America Fuck Yeah. I get what he’s trying to do I just think it’s the wrong approach. Quote
royal white Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Rudy’s Message said: Ok so say for example, these vaccine chaps say right it goes first to the highest bidder. Italy have more cases than America, America have more money, so they get the nod? I just don’t think it’s a business decision but I understand why he thinks cash is king, that’s what always brought him to the dance Or if the German company stick with it who do you think they will supply first? the country waiting with money or the country without? Quote
Rudy Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 Just now, Escobarp said: Sadly cash is king. Might be distasteful but it’s true. The company producing it is not in business to save the world but to maximise return for its shareholders. That’s just life. ideal world there is enough to go round. But there isn’t. also something isn’t quite right that a vaccine can be found so soon. Something stinks to me Yeah my mrs told me they’re a year away from developing a mass produced vaccine, and the wife is never wrong. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Spider said: Saves you justifying it. deep down, I think you’re uncomfortable with a lot of what he does as you’re a nice bloke. Just a little bit stubborn and dim. Justifying what? It is unsubstantiated information but you jump on it like dog with a bone and wish an old man Motor neurone disease, you need to look in the mirror and consider your crass comments and whether you should expose yourself to social media. Edited March 15, 2020 by Mounts Kipper Quote
Spider Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 Just now, Mounts Kipper said: Justifying what? It is unsubstantiated information but you jump on it like dig with a bone and wish an old man Motor neurone disease, you need to look in the mirror and consider your crass comments and whether you should expose yourself to social media, Erm You’re being a bit mental and need a lie down. We’ll see how it all pans out in the fullness of time. Enjoy Benidorm etc.. xxx Quote
Guest Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 He wasn’t buying vaccine. He was buying a team he believed to be furthest down the road to a vaccine to work towards one exclusive to the US. Once a vaccine is available the WHO would coordinate its distribution. Ensure countries that need it most get it first. That is what happened with the swine flu vaccine. It’s a global effort with cooperation. Not grab it whilst it’s hot scum like behaviour. Quote
Zico Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 It might not be true We have to take his word for these things https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/3/15/21180518/coronavirus-google-verily-website-testing-trump Quote
bolty58 Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 11 hours ago, Spider said: You’re being a bit mental and need a lie down. You must be stood in front of a mirror when you say that. "I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full frontal lobotomy". Makes me think of Youri and you (in that order), Quote
birch-chorley Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 This vaccine goes beyond the usual rules of capitalism All manufactures should be sharing info with each other in order to get a vaccine out as soon as possible so we can maximise lives saved and limit the economic damage This is a biological war that needs a different approach Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: This vaccine goes beyond the usual rules of capitalism All manufactures should be sharing info with each other in order to get a vaccine out as soon as possible so we can maximise lives saved and limit the economic damage This is a biological war that needs a different approach I agree. An investment for the future. Quote
royal white Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 2 hours ago, birch-chorley said: This vaccine goes beyond the usual rules of capitalism All manufactures should be sharing info with each other in order to get a vaccine out as soon as possible so we can maximise lives saved and limit the economic damage This is a biological war that needs a different approach As shitty as it sounds we all know War is one of the biggest business's out there, mix that in with the pharmaceutical business and.....well you know the rest! Quote
royal white Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 I see the accusation of Trump Wanting to buy A vaccine just for yanks has cooled down. Could that be because the company have said the claims are false? Or maybe the only viable source was apparently misquoted? Or possibly the anonymous source was never really a source. The usual sheep are all over it though, you will just have to keep wishing Motor neurone disease on him through other false stories. Quote
Rudy Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 51 minutes ago, royal white said: I see the accusation of Trump Wanting to buy A vaccine just for yanks has cooled down. Could that be because the company have said the claims are false? Or maybe the only viable source was apparently misquoted? Or possibly the anonymous source was never really a source. The usual sheep are all over it though, you will just have to keep wishing Motor neurone disease on him through other false stories. Mate cmon both sides are guilty of misquoting or just plain getting things wrong. Didn’t the Don play down a virus then a week later call a state of emergency Quote
royal white Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, Rudy’s Message said: Mate cmon both sides are guilty of misquoting or just plain getting things wrong. Didn’t the Don play down a virus then a week later call a state of emergency So that’s justification for wishing MND on someone? Haven't many People tried to play it down? A simple look online (or using a bit of common sense) and you would have known this was more bullshit. But hey sheep will be sheep Quote
Rudy Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, royal white said: So that’s justification for wishing MND on someone? Haven't many People tried to play it down? A simple look online (or using a bit of common sense) and you would have known this was more bullshit. But hey sheep will be sheep Woah woah I didn’t condone anything, Spider is his own man and has his own views. Fuck knows what to believe online anymore. I don’t take everything as gospel I was simply weighing into a debate. Quote
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