famouswanderer Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Henry needs to start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 I'm not getting this clamour for Henry he's been piss poor and had his chances, formation change and different style of play is the answer for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KP Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 I'm not getting this clamour for Henry he's been piss poor and had his chances, formation change and different style of play is the answer for me. Based on our last 3 performances, the only time we resembled anything like a football team was when Henry was on the pitch. We resort to hoof ball because 2 of our 3 central midfielders rarely sue for the ball. Our reliance on moving the ball out to Morais has become quite predictable and easy to defend against, although his delivery is still more often than not fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KP Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 A lot of that is due to Vela dropping deeper, he's got much more influence on the game by dropping deeper and wanting the ball. There's no point having a number 10 if he's watching it go back and forth over his head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 21, 2017 Moderators Share Posted April 21, 2017 I'm not getting this clamour for Henry he's been piss poor and had his chances, formation change and different style of play is the answer for me. a formation change and different style of play would more than likely mean changing personnel though assuming we need to go more attacking, you're looking at bringing in Long Henry Wilkinson from what I've seen of those 3, I'd be bringing in Henry no point in chucking in Soloman-Otabar to see what he can do unless it's as sub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) a formation change and different style of play would more than likely mean changing personnel though assuming we need to go more attacking, you're looking at bringing in Long Henry Wilkinson from what I've seen of those 3, I'd be bringing in Henry no point in chucking in Soloman-Otabar to see what he can do unless it's as sub Said it before I'd try Morais more central see if he can add creativity, not much choice who replaces him out wide so it would have to be Henry or Long but neither player look that brilliant to me. I'd hope we drop osede and possibly go to a back 4 and stop lumping everything forward and try to mix it up with playing from back to front at least on some occasions that would at least give the opposition something different to think about. A back 3 seems to encourage the defenders to play long diagonal balls all the time that's also got to be reined in and my reason for going to a back 4 where we have options to play down the side of teams. Edited April 21, 2017 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted April 21, 2017 Moderators Share Posted April 21, 2017 we haven't got a right back who has played a game in the last 3 months 3 at the back doesnt lead to long ball, not having a midfielder to pass to is the problem im not sure i want vela nearer our goal than theirs, but he, morais and henry are all happy to have the ball them three are well capable of opening up port vale its then 2 from 3 midfieders ironic that derek and trotter who bossed port vale wont be in the team, tomorrow remember, so long as we dont lose, we lead going into the last game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KP Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 I reckon if we'd have started the last 2 games with the teams we ended the games with, we'd be all but up. Still can't get my head around 3 spoiling midfielders against the shite we were up against in Oldham and Bury. Anyway, win and we're all but up regardless, positive and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted April 21, 2017 Moderators Share Posted April 21, 2017 mitigating circumstances at oldham, imo not the best pitch and that wind harder to argue about bury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 we haven't got a right back who has played a game in the last 3 months 3 at the back doesnt lead to long ball, not having a midfielder to pass to is the problem im not sure i want vela nearer our goal than theirs, but he, morais and henry are all happy to have the ball them three are well capable of opening up port vale its then 2 from 3 midfieders ironic that derek and trotter who bossed port vale wont be in the team, tomorrow remember, so long as we dont lose, we lead going into the last game Go to a back four for me, Derik or Dorian at right back. Morais is wasted at wing back and as happened in the last two games if we don't score he ends up further up the pitch and can leave the back three exposed to a break. Need Morais near their box not wasting his energy charging up and down the line. He's our best bet to create a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted April 21, 2017 Moderators Share Posted April 21, 2017 Go to a back four for me, Derik or Dorian at right back. like i say, we aint got a right back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 21, 2017 Moderators Share Posted April 21, 2017 Said it before I'd try Morais more central see if he can add creativity, not much choice who replaces him out wide so it would have to be Henry or Long but neither player look that brilliant to me. I'd hope we drop osede and possibly go to a back 4 and stop lumping everything forward and try to mix it up with playing from back to front at least on some occasions that would at least give the opposition something different to think about. A back 3 seems to encourage the defenders to play long diagonal balls all the time that's also got to be reined in and my reason for going to a back 4 where we have options to play down the side of teams. no point in sticking a guy who specialises in crosses in the middle as we become weaker out wide - to me it sounds like DF playing Rob Hall out of position in our biggest match of the season to see what happens would bring in henry and wouldn't be bothered if he replaced pratley or osede- but we need another body in the middle willing to pick the ball up and move forward with it, like he did against scunthorpe for example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted April 21, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted April 21, 2017 With the pitch being wide according to PP, it wouldn't surprise me if Wabara played in a 4-4-2. Morais played on the left at MK in his debut so could do the same with Henry right. Vela & Spearing in the middle, ALF and long up top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainmed Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) I would give a lot to see us promoted tomorrow. My son has never witnessed a promotion and wants it so much. Don't normally get nervous, but I am for this. Edited April 21, 2017 by captainmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted April 21, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted April 21, 2017 Relax, we've got this. 2-0 for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 I would give a lot to see us promoted tomorrow. My son has never witnessed a promotion and wants it so much. Don't normally get nervous, but I am for this. This is where I'm at and why I'm so pissed off with our current form I want it badly for my lad who's stuck with it despite a piss poor few years. Anyhow we're at Vale tomorrow and want the footballing gods to do us a favour as it would make it a top top day. COYWM this is fucking masssive day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 With the pitch being wide according to PP, it wouldn't surprise me if Wabara played in a 4-4-2. Morais played on the left at MK in his debut so could do the same with Henry right. Vela & Spearing in the middle, ALF and long up top Big pitch should suit us. Fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marple whites Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 This is where I'm at and why I'm so pissed off with our current form I want it badly for my lad who's stuck with it despite a piss poor few years. Anyhow we're at Vale tomorrow and want the footballing gods to do us a favour as it would make it a top top day. COYWM this is fucking masssive day. And me - junior marple has only seen a downward spiral since he started watching - we need to win this !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 like i say, we aint got a right back We haven't really got a left or right wing back either, yet we are still playing that system. 3 at the back has worked well, but I don't think it suits us without Madine. Need to get other scoring options higher up the field. Morais needs to be attacking not defending. Henry needs to be up there too. Having three centre backs who can't pass a ball, doesn't work well either when they haven't a target up front to hit. It is a waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 21, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted April 21, 2017 Big pitch should suit us. Fingers crossed. It should but we don't use it. Asking Taylor to cover the left virtually on his own means we're too reliant on Morais for crosses. Hopefully can use it to utilise Long's pace if they don't thump it too far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumbo Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 What formation do Vale generally play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marple whites Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 It should but we don't use it. Asking Taylor to cover the left virtually on his own means we're too reliant on Morais for crosses. Hopefully can use it to utilise Long's pace if they don't thump it too far. Agree - big wide pitch, right then - lets use it rather than the pitch in the sky !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 like i say, we aint got a right back Where's Wabara play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumbo Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 4-3-3 against them if Pratley is fit. Dorian to play right back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton va va Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Howard Dervite Wheater Beavers Taylor Spearing Morris Vela Henry Long Alf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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