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Unbeaten in 15, all draws or win 10 lose 5

 

Discuss

 

In football the rules are clearly set. Nowadays a win = 3 pts and a draw = 1.

 

In economics everything is fuzzy and open to interpretation.

 

Although GDP has existed as a concept for hundreds of years it is only since WWII that it has become accepted as the key measure by most countries.

 

"Inflation" is a clear concept, but the measuring of it varies. Which is right - CPI, RPI, CPIH, RPIJ of some other?

If you travel by rail a lot, the impact of rail fare increases is greater. If you neighbour works from home it is less.

People are just bamboozled by statistics they don't understand.

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In football the rules are clearly set. Nowadays a win = 3 pts and a draw = 1.

 

In economics everything is fuzzy and open to interpretation.

 

Although GDP has existed as a concept for hundreds of years it is only since WWII that it has become accepted as the key measure by most countries.

 

"Inflation" is a clear concept, but the measuring of it varies. Which is right - CPI, RPI, CPIH, RPIJ of some other?

If you travel by rail a lot, the impact of rail fare increases is greater. If you neighbour works from home it is less.

People are just bamboozled by statistics they don't understand.

 

And of course, if you can't measure inflation, you can't measure GDP - it's easy to count how many pounds are flowing around, much harder to measure 'volume'.

 

The ONS as good as admitted they've got inflation wrong for quite some time when it comes to new technology, effectively understating growth and the size of the economy in the process.

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Let’s not bother with a second vote as the remainers got it so wrong in the first place believed all the fearful predictions and did not believe enough in the UK to have the courage to do the right thing and leave.

 

Lets not even for one minute give the likes of Blair, Campbell, Cable and the like the chance to peddle their fears in front of the public ever again.

 

It’s pretty clear that the senile but thicko old fuckers with our lifetime of experience called this decision correctly so let’s move on to a better and brighter future without going through the pointless and time wasting exercise of another vote on the final deal.

Got it wrong?! We’ve not even left yet FS

 

It’s like being 0-0, 20 minutes into a game and smugly claiming a win. Utterly ridiculous

 

Jesus wept :D

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Got it wrong?! We’ve not even left yet FS

 

It’s like being 0-0, 20 minutes into a game and smugly claiming a win. Utterly ridiculous

 

Jesus wept :D

 

We've got a bit of a boy who cried wolf problem however. You see, the absolute core remain establishment of the Treasury and the Bank of England both predicted an immediate slow down in growth (Treasury were very specific on a recession) and spike in unemployment.

 

They were entirely wrong. 

 

If and when anything bad happens, we can all be pretty sure that plenty of remainers will instantly know what to blame, but there comes a point when you've been wrong too many times, and its clear you're operating from visceral instinct rather than any remotely rational assessment.

 

You're welcome to believe that brexit is guilty until proven innocent, and nothing positive can be judged for an indefinite period of time (we haven't left yet, we're in transition, it's only been 1 year, and on, and on, and on), but the rest of us can see the moving goal posts so aren't very impressed.

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We've got a bit of a boy who cried wolf problem however. You see, the absolute core remain establishment of the Treasury and the Bank of England both predicted an immediate slow down in growth (Treasury were very specific on a recession) and spike in unemployment.

 

They were entirely wrong.

 

If and when anything bad happens, we can all be pretty sure that plenty of remainers will instantly know what to blame, but there comes a point when you've been wrong too many times, and its clear you're operating from visceral instinct rather than any remotely rational assessment.

 

You're welcome to believe that brexit is guilty until proven innocent, and nothing positive can be judged for an indefinite period of time (we haven't left yet, we're in transition, it's only been 1 year, and on, and on, and on), but the rest of us can see the moving goal posts so aren't very impressed.

Visceral instinct very accurately describes that twaddle

 

“Remainers will” xxxxxx

 

Moving goalposts

 

You’re as bad as Mounts

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My company is Finnish and our goods into the UK will be more expensive after Brexit.

Most of our competitor products are in other European countries and they cannot buy cheaper British alternatives.

Being outside the single market in this particular business will be difficult for smaller businesses in the UK.

These are facts.

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Got it wrong?! We’ve not even left yet FS

 

It’s like being 0-0, 20 minutes into a game and smugly claiming a win. Utterly ridiculous

 

Jesus wept :D

And we are supposed to believe that if the predicted shit was hitting the fan right now the remainers wouldn't be screaming we told you so?
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We've got a bit of a boy who cried wolf problem however. You see, the absolute core remain establishment of the Treasury and the Bank of England both predicted an immediate slow down in growth (Treasury were very specific on a recession) and spike in unemployment.

 

They were entirely wrong.

 

If and when anything bad happens, we can all be pretty sure that plenty of remainers will instantly know what to blame, but there comes a point when you've been wrong too many times, and its clear you're operating from visceral instinct rather than any remotely rational assessment.

 

You're welcome to believe that brexit is guilty until proven innocent, and nothing positive can be judged for an indefinite period of time (we haven't left yet, we're in transition, it's only been 1 year, and on, and on, and on), but the rest of us can see the moving goal posts so aren't very impressed.

And we haven't started the hard bit yet but by the sounds of it we have the EU in our back pocket and trade deals coming out of our ears...don't get me wrong i want the best for my country and i hope we end up in a great place but we are a million miles away from that position yet. In my honest opinion we have a weak negotiation team and if you read between the lines we are going to end up with a fudged Norwayesque type deal which will not satisfy any side of the debate
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Just before the referendum our Economy was growing faster than the rest of the EU

 

Following the referendum we were growing slower than the rest of the EU

 

Relative to other countries we have seen a slow down

 

Ironic really as we were told that we should vote to leave as we were being ‘shackled’ to these countries with slower growth than our own

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Just before the referendum our Economy was growing faster than the rest of the EU

 

Following the referendum we were growing slower than the rest of the EU

 

Relative to other countries we have seen a slow down

 

Ironic really as we were told that we should vote to leave as we were being ‘shackled’ to these countries with slower growth than our own

I'm not sure but I think we may not be out yet....
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Just before the referendum our Economy was growing faster than the rest of the EU

 

Following the referendum we were growing slower than the rest of the EU

 

Relative to other countries we have seen a slow down

 

Ironic really as we were told that we should vote to leave as we were being ‘shackled’ to these countries with slower growth than our own

Which part of the EU have we been growing slower than? Certainly not Greece, Italy, Spain, and while most of Europe been in the doldrums we’ve had steady growth when they had none. The only reason the growth is there now is constant and massive pumping of cash into the EU economy and that’s still not solved the high unemployment on the continent while ours is virtually zero. Edited by Mounts Kipper
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Which part of the EU have we been growing slower than? Certainly not Greece, Italy, Spain, and while most of Europe been in the doldrums we’ve had steady growth when they had none. The only reason the growth is there now is constant and massive pumping of cash into the EU economy and that’s still not solved the high unemployment on the continent while ours is virtually zero.

 

So we're doing well in the EU then?

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