Guest Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, bolty58 said: Yes, scheming Remainer anti-democrats who cosy up to the likes of Gina Miller and other self interested shithouses. That said, if the law hadn’t been changed because of her intervention, Theresa’s shit deal would have happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted July 16, 2019 Members Share Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, boltondiver said: That said, if the law hadn’t been changed because of her intervention, Theresa’s shit deal would have happened I still think Miller is a self aggrandising cunt who has ideas way above her station. Demanding that a future British PM gives her one weeks notice of any intention to prorogue Parliament? Irrespective of the rights and wrongs of prorogation, just who the fuck is she that she believes she has some right to be forewarned of any fucking thing the British government plan? A jumped up bint full of her own importance. An utterly despicable cow. Edited July 16, 2019 by bolty58 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 38 minutes ago, boltondiver said: That said, if the law hadn’t been changed because of her intervention, Theresa’s shit deal would have happened that's a true fact, she should be hailed as a hero of the people 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, Sweep said: that's a true fact, she should be hailed as a hero of the people 😀 That wasn’t her aim though as we all know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 2 hours ago, bolty58 said: I still think Miller is a self aggrandising cunt who has ideas way above her station. Demanding that a future British PM gives her one weeks notice of any intention to prorogue Parliament? Irrespective of the rights and wrongs of prorogation, just who the fuck is she that she believes she has some right to be forewarned of any fucking thing the British government plan? A jumped up bint full of her own importance. An utterly despicable cow. You’re a very angry immigrant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Jol_BWFC said: You’re a very angry immigrant. I can just imagine him, red in the face, hammering at his keyboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, mickbrown said: I can just imagine him, red in the face, hammering at his keyboard. He’s doesn’t do red. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: He’s doesn’t do red. 😂 He did last year when Mourinho was their manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darwen_white Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 4 hours ago, bolty58 said: I still think Miller is a self aggrandising cunt who has ideas way above her station. Demanding that a future British PM gives her one weeks notice of any intention to prorogue Parliament? Irrespective of the rights and wrongs of prorogation, just who the fuck is she that she believes she has some right to be forewarned of any fucking thing the British government plan? A jumped up bint full of her own importance. An utterly despicable cow. Miller's just a convenient figurehead for far more dangerous elitists. Having said that, anyone who had Fidel Castro as a family friend is dangerous enough. I wonder who her "team" is this time round seeing as Soros is off the scene after being exposed a couple of years ago? Blair's been quiet for a while, it wouldn't surprise me if he's involved... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted July 16, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted July 16, 2019 23 minutes ago, darwen_white said: Miller's just a convenient figurehead for far more dangerous elitists. Having said that, anyone who had Fidel Castro as a family friend is dangerous enough. I wonder who her "team" is this time round seeing as Soros is off the scene after being exposed a couple of years ago? Blair's been quiet for a while, it wouldn't surprise me if he's involved... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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birch-chorley Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) On 15/07/2019 at 19:23, paulhanley said: Yes American people are known the world over for their tolerance of poor customer and product standards. Famed for it. It's a disease ridden country from California to Maine. Scurvy is commonplace. Rickets is rife. Utter barbarians in that 90 per cent of the world outside the enlightenment that is the EU. How on earth do those poor people cope? Hark ....... what's that I hear? It's the clamour of people from nations around the world aspiring to be like the EU, or even to join it. A deafening chorus "We love the EU" they chant. OMG!! Isn't the EU am-aaaaaaa-zing! Within the EU, which countries do you think are the driving forces behind the regulations that have been created? Do you honestly believe that it’s the Eastern / Southern European countries pushing for the regulations? I’d say it’s more down to the U.K., Germany and France pushing it on the rest of the 27. Our power of veto means we have never had anything pushed on us that we really didn’t want What makes anyone believe that by leaving the EU will automatically mean a relaxation in standards, if anything it could go the other way surely? Edited July 16, 2019 by birch-chorley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Also I see that Juncker is leaving in November, replaced by German lady voted in by the European Parliament A parliament voted in by the people of Europe, including our representatives, who we voted in Forgive me if I’m being stupid but I was led to believe that this is somehow undemocratic How is that any more or less undemocratic than the way the U.K. cabinet positions are filled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: Also I see that Juncker is leaving in November, replaced by German lady voted in by the European Parliament A parliament voted in by the people of Europe, including our representatives, who we voted in Forgive me if I’m being stupid but I was led to believe that this is somehow undemocratic How is that any more or less undemocratic than the way the U.K. cabinet positions are filled? Hardly democratic when there was only 1 person to vote for, and even then she only got approved by 9 votes. The 2 new heads are hand picked by Germany and France who call the tune. Edited July 16, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Hardly democratic when there was only 1 person to vote for, and even then she only got approved by 9 votes. The 2 new heads are hand picked by Germany and France who call the tune. Let’s not forget, we also called the tune before BREXIT it was the three of us deciding everything and the other 24 falling in line for economic benefit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted July 16, 2019 Author Share Posted July 16, 2019 43 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: Also I see that Juncker is leaving in November, replaced by German lady voted in by the European Parliament A parliament voted in by the people of Europe, including our representatives, who we voted in Forgive me if I’m being stupid but I was led to believe that this is somehow undemocratic How is that any more or less undemocratic than the way the U.K. cabinet positions are filled? Did you overlook the fact she wasn’t even on the ballot paper originally ? Priceless democracy. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/european-commission-president-ursula-von-der-leyen-juncker-eu-parliament-a8987841.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Did you overlook the fact she wasn’t even on the ballot paper originally ? Priceless democracy. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/european-commission-president-ursula-von-der-leyen-juncker-eu-parliament-a8987841.html Like I said, forgive me if I’m being stupid It seems like it’s the European Council who put candidates forward Who sits on the European council? The governments of the member states, who are in fact voted in by their own people Is that vastly different to say Boris Johnson coming into power in the U.K. and picking his own cabinet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted July 16, 2019 Author Share Posted July 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: Like I said, forgive me if I’m being stupid It seems like it’s the European Council who put candidates forward Who sits on the European council? The governments of the member states, who are in fact voted in by their own people Is that vastly different to say Boris Johnson coming into power in the U.K. and picking his own cabinet? If you can’t see it now mate, you'll never see it. Spitzenkandidat The article clearly shows it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 minute ago, miamiwhite said: If you can’t see it now mate, you'll never see it. Spitzenkandidat The article clearly shows it. We elect our governments They sit on the European council They put forward candidates who are elected by the European Parliament Is that vastly more undemocratic than Boris Johnson becoming PM on a vote by conservative members before sticking Javid in as chancellor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted July 16, 2019 Author Share Posted July 16, 2019 Just now, birch-chorley said: We elect our governments They sit on the European council They put forward candidates who are elected by the European Parliament Is that vastly more undemocratic than Boris Johnson becoming PM on a vote by conservative members before sticking Javid in as chancellor? God’s sake. She wasn’t even on the ballot paper originally, hence she wasn’t a candidate. Here’s another way - Johnson v Hunt....let’s say Johnson wins.....but then the Tory Party overrule it, decide instead to nominate Joe Bloggs from Daubhill as the only person to vote, Mr Bloggs becomes the new PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 17 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: God’s sake. She wasn’t even on the ballot paper originally, hence she wasn’t a candidate. Here’s another way - Johnson v Hunt....let’s say Johnson wins.....but then the Tory Party overrule it, decide instead to nominate Joe Bloggs from Daubhill as the only person to vote, Mr Bloggs becomes the new PM. Aye but the people who decide who is on the ballot paper, the European Council, are made up of our governments, who are ejected by European people Or is that wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted July 17, 2019 Members Share Posted July 17, 2019 12 hours ago, Sweep said: He did last year when Mourinho was their manager Keep trying sunshine. Tra-la-la..................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted July 17, 2019 Members Share Posted July 17, 2019 4 hours ago, birch-chorley said: Aye but the people who decide who is on the ballot paper, the European Council, are made up of our governments, who are ejected by European people Or is that wrong? Not wrong but astounding naivete. It's a club where they are all sucking up as much as they can handle from the trough and all sorts of intrigue and bastardry come to the fore to maintain the status quo. She is a selected puppet to do the bidding of the invisible faces who wish to continue feathering their already considerable nests at our expense. An 'inconvenient truth'. https://www.politico.eu/article/ursula-von-der-leyen-biography-career-inconvenient-truth/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted July 17, 2019 Members Share Posted July 17, 2019 17 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: That wasn’t her aim though as we all know. The only red mickbrown should be worried about is his failed political red project. Picking losers must be a habit for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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