Traf Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 3 hours ago, Spider said: Angela Rayner looks like she'd smash the fuck out of you then cook you a proper breakfast. Loads of black pudding and fried bread. You'd never find out. You know it's illegal for two gingers to bang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 1 hour ago, boltondiver said: Both Oh right. Good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 On 26/11/2021 at 08:48, Mounts Kipper said: It’s clear from the letter Johnson been trying to work with the French and they are clearly not engaging, he’s called them out publicly, 100% correct to do so. I’m also sure the Germans & other countries will now pull rank and things will now get resolved. Great diplomacy, tried the carrot now the stick. Well done Boris. As predicted. Channel migrants: France to propose deal with UK - BBC News Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted November 30, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted November 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Completely the opposite actually Mick. Given his previous comments, I was interested in how he formed his opinions, as they do have more resonance than most. He has also stated previously that he did some sort of charity work. His response, doesn't actually contradict my view neither. It confirms what I've always believed; we are far too accommodating in general, which makes it all that bit harder for genuine cases to be picked out from all the "fluff". Doesn't make the gif less funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted November 30, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted November 30, 2021 24 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: As predicted. Channel migrants: France to propose deal with UK - BBC News What’s the proposal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 7 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Completely the opposite actually Mick. Given his previous comments, I was interested in how he formed his opinions, as they do have more resonance than most. He has also stated previously that he did some sort of charity work. His response, doesn't actually contradict my view neither. It confirms what I've always believed; we are far too accommodating in general, which makes it all that bit harder for genuine cases to be picked out from all the "fluff". To be honest mate, most stories that I came across were genuine. There's a lot of dangerous places in the world. Countries like Belarus or even Turkey can be dodgy if you're actively opposing the government. We can't take them all, but I don't see 'getting tougher' as being the answer either. Got to work together better with as many countries as possible. Unfortunately, with the climate crisis about to really start biting, and how little COP26 offered for countries on the frontline, I think we will be seeing much, much bigger numbers in the next decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 The only answer to immigration is humanity. Those who think 'soft touch' and all that nonsense about being hardline are being naive. Simple solutions are not the answer to complex problems. Plays well at the ballot box though, and given how fucked over some parts of the country have been, I don't blame them for sticking their cross against someone who says they understand them despite pushing policy after policy through showing they couldn't give a flying. I trust we wake up at some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted November 30, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted November 30, 2021 27 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: The only answer to immigration is humanity. Those who think 'soft touch' and all that nonsense about being hardline are being naive. Simple solutions are not the answer to complex problems. Plays well at the ballot box though, and given how fucked over some parts of the country have been, I don't blame them for sticking their cross against someone who says they understand them despite pushing policy after policy through showing they couldn't give a flying. I trust we wake up at some time. “Humanity” is fine if you can afford to welcome all-comers with open arms. The problem is, someone needs to draw a line with “Accept” on one side and “Fuck Off Home” on the other. We simply can’t afford to have too many staying because the greater the chance of being accepted the greater lengths they will go to to get here. Those lengths may be financial or risk to life (or both). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, MickyD said: “Humanity” is fine if you can afford to welcome all-comers with open arms. The problem is, someone needs to draw a line with “Accept” on one side and “Fuck Off Home” on the other. We simply can’t afford to have too many staying because the greater the chance of being accepted the greater lengths they will go to to get here. Those lengths may be financial or risk to life (or both). How do you draw a line out of interest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted November 30, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted November 30, 2021 10 minutes ago, tomski said: How do you draw a line out of interest? There lies the problem. I wasn’t attempting to provide the solution. That’s the job of some MP or group of MPs who are well paid to make such decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 18 minutes ago, MickyD said: “Humanity” is fine if you can afford to welcome all-comers with open arms. The problem is, someone needs to draw a line with “Accept” on one side and “Fuck Off Home” on the other. We simply can’t afford to have too many staying because the greater the chance of being accepted the greater lengths they will go to to get here. Those lengths may be financial or risk to life (or both). And that's why being hardline is a vote winner.... It's the economy, stupid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, MickyD said: There lies the problem. I wasn’t attempting to provide the solution. That’s the job of some MP or group of MPs who are well paid to make such decisions. It can’t be done as the nation currently doesn’t have the skill or resource. I think this is what sadly pushes people into the all or nothing extremes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, MickyD said: There lies the problem. I wasn’t attempting to provide the solution. That’s the job of some MP or group of MPs who are well paid to make such decisions. It goes beyond asking MPs, these are global issues - the cabinet, the leadership. No one is asking them in a 4 year term to 'sort out immigration' (ok, some are) These issues were seeded 20/30 years ago, asking your local MP to sort it out is pissing in the wind. But what you can do is not vote people in who play to the lowest common dominator and promise easy answers to huge, global issues. If they do, charlatan. And not the 25th tour version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 25 minutes ago, MickyD said: “Humanity” is fine if you can afford to welcome all-comers with open arms. The problem is, someone needs to draw a line with “Accept” on one side and “Fuck Off Home” on the other. We simply can’t afford to have too many staying because the greater the chance of being accepted the greater lengths they will go to to get here. Those lengths may be financial or risk to life (or both). Also how much of the UK's money (our money) is spend on immigration issues? Housing, staff time, money to exist.... If you say 'we can't afford' I'd like to know where you draw the fiscal line. I'm also interested, because other than Gonzo who quite rightly talked about housing and difficulties- who has had their life or their family life impinged by immigration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 21 hours ago, London Wanderer said: To be honest mate, most stories that I came across were genuine. There's a lot of dangerous places in the world. Countries like Belarus or even Turkey can be dodgy if you're actively opposing the government. We can't take them all, but I don't see 'getting tougher' as being the answer either. Got to work together better with as many countries as possible. Unfortunately, with the climate crisis about to really start biting, and how little COP26 offered for countries on the frontline, I think we will be seeing much, much bigger numbers in the next decade. A certain UK politician is the great-grandson of a Turkish opponent of their government. Soon after producing an offspring he returned to Turkey and met a grisly end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted December 1, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted December 1, 2021 2 hours ago, gonzo said: Nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Morizio Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Number 10 was the place to party last year, although I suppose you’d need £100k donation to secure an invitation. They just can’t help themselves this lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted December 1, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted December 1, 2021 Hancock and the shit munchers will get what’s coming. You can’t hide a multi million pound backhander. Especially when your “friends” are turning on you. Pick your ditch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Rudy said: 42, 47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Any more info on Rees Mogg's £6m loans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted December 1, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted December 1, 2021 29 minutes ago, Traf said: Any more info on Rees Mogg's £6m loans? Beyond this? https://www.businessinsider.com/jacob-rees-mogg-under-investigation-undeclared-outside-interests-claims-2021-12?r=US&IR=T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted December 1, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted December 1, 2021 He will have spent a few grand of it on a nice big rug to brush it all under. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Slippery cunts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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