Politics

[Zico]

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

Never been. So what you're saying is "I went on holiday to India once, and some people haggled with me, therefore I have concluded all 1.5 billion Indians are difficult to do business with"...?

No, that's not what I've concluded 

The issue isn't racism, the issue is you don't understand the difference between commenting on culture and racism 

As highlighted by your use of the term racism in this context and your notion they were selling watches on beaches because that's what Africans do in Spain 

Not all Africans like, but enough for you to assume Indians do too, because, dark skin

I was also made aware from my holiday that light skin Indians tend to look down on dark skin Indians but that's another story

[Cheese]

3 minutes ago, Zico said:

No, that's not what I've concluded 

The issue isn't racism, the issue is you don't understand the difference between commenting on culture and racism 

As highlighted by your use of the term racism in this context and your notion they were selling watches on beaches because that's what Africans do in Spain 

Not all Africans like, but enough for you to assume Indians do too, because, dark skin

I was also made aware from my holiday that light skin Indians tend to look down on dark skin Indians but that's another story

Ok. So you've made sweeping conclusions about their "culture" based on your interaction with some people you haggled with on holiday in India?

[gonzo]

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

Ok. So you've made sweeping conclusions about their "culture" based on your interaction with some people you haggled with on holiday in India?

Tbf I think thats happened across the globe for centuries.

Jocks are tight

Irish are thick

Yanks are fat

French are rude

Pakis stink 

[Cheese]

Just now, gonzo said:

Tbf I think thats happened across the globe for centuries.

Jocks are tight

Irish are thick

Yanks are fat

French are rude

Pakis stink 

Yes. Racism has been happening for the entirity of human civilisation. Congratulations on the realisation.

[Zico]

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

Ok. So you've made sweeping conclusions about their "culture" based on your interaction with some people you haggled with on holiday in India?

You need to enlighten yourself on the Indian culture 

Google "Indian culture haggling"

It's a custom of theirs, and I've experienced it first hand so feel like I can say "Indians are hard work when trying to buy something", because I've been there and done it, as have many others

And it sounds like @boltonboris has too in a working capacity 

You've not

So I can see why in your ignorance you want to shout racism, you do it a lot

And as You've never been there l it's quite sweeping to assume I was buying fake watches on a beach because that's what people with dark skin do in the places you've been on holiday do

You're Racist you

[Cheese]

3 minutes ago, Zico said:

You need to enlighten yourself on the Indian culture 

Google "Indian culture haggling"

It's a custom of theirs, and I've experienced it first hand so feel like I can say "Indians are hard work when trying to buy something", because I've been there and done it, as have many others

And it sounds like @boltonboris has too in a working capacity 

You've not

So I can see why in your ignorance you want to shout racism, you do it a lot

And as You've never been there l it's quite sweeping to assume I was buying fake watches on a beach because that's what people with dark skin do in the places you've been on holiday do

You're Racist you

So 1.5 billion people are all the same, because you haggled with someone on holiday. Glad we got to the bottom of it eventually. I'm sure it's nothing to do with their skin colour, of course.

[Zico]

Just now, Cheese said:

So 1.5 billion people are all the same, because you haggled with someone on holiday. Glad we got to the bottom of it eventually. I'm sure it's nothing to do with their skin colour, of course.

Who said they were all the same? 

I'm taking about when conducting some sort of business, and it's commonly agreed that it's part of their culture, they wouldn't even deny it

I certainly don't think they all sell things either so it probably doesn't apply to them all, or maybe it does, I don't know

You're the only one making judgements based on skin colour in our conversation

[Spider]

I have to haggle with Asian customers on a daily basis.

I have to haggle with palefaces daiky as well.

The brown lads are better and MANY of them will tell you they feel a bit insulted if you don’t try and haggle. It’s ingrained in their culture and they will tell you that.

If anything, they take a lot of pride in it and plenty say the English/westerners aren’t that keen.

It’s not racist. It’s cultural and actually enriching.

why do folk say they want to travel and visit other cultures? Is that racist?

To say another culture infers that the culture you refer to identifies as such and openly promotes its idiosyncrasies and differences.

It’s not racist. It’s different. Enriching.

So shut up you racist cunt

[gonzo]

I struggle to work for them. Genuinely.

Always want something for nothing or money off. 

On the other hand they are always first to pay. Even if they have tried to get the price down.

It's just their way. I'm not offended by it and accept there's many probably not that way but every single one of them I've ever worked for has been the same.

[Winchester White]

Sometimes I wonder if Cheese and Royal are actually some kind of Jekyll and Hyde personality as they are so alike at times with their irritatingly obstinate post after post on the same subject.

[Winchester White]

Aren't you guys just describing the middle east and further plus south?

India, Egypt, Turkey, Vietnam, Pakistan, most of if not all of Africa, Iraq, Iran, Malaysia, Thailand, etc?

Bargaining is part of their culture.

[Cheese]

3 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Aren't you guys just describing the middle east and further plus south?

India, Egypt, Turkey, Vietnam, Pakistan, most of if not all of Africa, Iraq, Iran, Malaysia, Thailand, etc?

Bargaining is part of their culture.

Bargaining is part of every culture that ever existed. The world's entire economy is based on bargaining.

[Zico]

Is it racist to say a lot of Indians wobble their heads in conversation

When I was there they did 

And a lot of other people say they do, both Indians and non Indians

There's even a wiki entry for it

And loads of YouTube videos about it

But I'm not racist because I only saw a small amount (out of 1.5 billion) do it when I was there

Am I?

[Cheese]

4 minutes ago, Zico said:

Is it racist to say a lot of Indians wobble their heads in conversation

When I was there they did 

And a lot of other people say they do, both Indians and non Indians

There's even a wiki entry for it

And loads of YouTube videos about it

But I'm not racist because I only saw a small amount (out of 1.5 billion) do it when I was there

Am I?

Funny watching racists defend their racism.

[royal white]

Hmmmmm wasn’t it @Cheese who referred to a bunch of brown people as “Muslim Wankers” 

 

Pretty sure that’s seen as racist. 

[Zico]

7 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Funny watching racists defend their racism.

What was that about selling watches on beaches?

[Winchester White]

18 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Bargaining is part of every culture that ever existed. The world's entire economy is based on bargaining.

 

6 minutes ago, royal white said:

Hmmmmm wasn’t it @Cheese who referred to a bunch of brown people as “Muslim Wankers” 

 

Pretty sure that’s seen as racist. 

[Spider]

15 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Funny watching racists defend their racism.

Are you then suggesting there are no differences between Indian and English cultures?

And if there are, it’s racist to point them out?

even by your standards this is a bit weird 

Edited May 9, 2025 by Spider

[gonzo]

I fuckin hate bartering. Rather just pay full whack than have to deal with the stress of it

Never send food back either.

 

[Winchester White]

1 minute ago, gonzo said:

I fuckin hate bartering. Rather just pay full whack than have to deal with the stress of it

Never send food back either.

 

Me too, hate mithering also.

I almost always never send food back but will say if it's wrong (or the missus will) 😁

[Zico]

52 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Bargaining is part of every culture that ever existed. The world's entire economy is based on bargaining.

When was the last time you haggled for something? 

Was it when you bought a fake watch on a beach?

[Zico]

16 minutes ago, gonzo said:

I fuckin hate bartering. Rather just pay full whack than have to deal with the stress of it

Never send food back either.

 

That's why I'm with my other half

Some one has to tell the waiter I actually ordered sweet potato fries and it won't be me

[Not in Crawley]

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

Tbf I think thats happened across the globe for centuries.

Jocks are tight

Irish are thick

Yanks are fat

French are rude

Pakis stink 

I've got a new French client - they do speak English but keep apologising because their English isn't great. I don't speak a lick of French - I'm not sure they should be apologising to me.

Anyway, they don't seem rude. So now ALL the French aren't rude.

Cheese - see, this is how it works. See as you find?

I've met so many lovely Southerners and misanthropic northerners (that's 6) 

[Duck Egg]

 

 

[wakey]

if you know, say, six Man Utd fans and they're all wankers, are you allowed to think Man Utd fans tend to be wankers?

And if not, how are we supposed to know Man U fans are wankers?