Politics

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Whoa! Spent an hour watching that chimney and seagulls last night to no avail.  Come on here to make a comment and it’s all done dusted. Bugger! 😊

Dunno who it is yet.

New mon due on the balcony any time.

[BobyBrno]

13 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Dunno who it is yet.

New mon due on the balcony any time.

From the US! Trump affect.😉

[jmjhb]

Make America Pope Again

[gonzo]

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

What about the edibles though eh @gonzo? 😉

DM for details

...can get growth hormones too whilst we are at it ha 

[burnden]

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

What about the edibles though eh @gonzo? 😉

Watch it- you'll end up in Alcatraz.

 

[Casino]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

The standards, as far as I'm aware haven't been reduced, though some American woman adjacent to the orange one reckoned it would be good for their beef sector.

I suppose if there are no tariffs on it, then they could produce beef to our standards as there is plenty of demand for beef here.

Not sure it helps our farmers at all, and it can become a race downwards for cheap food, so perhaps folk need to enquire and check on the provenance.

Seems there is indeed concern amongst our beef farmers for various reasons.

Well the leader of the NFU is happy re beef

Still no hormone beef, just reduced tariffs on their good stuff and improved deal for our  beef going other way

So, on what we know they have no reason for concerns

 

Badenochs 'uk shafted' should see the end of her

[Casino]

2 hours ago, Ani said:

Stop calling him Donald FFS. 

Donald likes it

Sadly, very sadly, needs must

[Tonge moor green jacket]

39 minutes ago, Casino said:

Well the leader of the NFU is happy re beef

Still no hormone beef, just reduced tariffs on their good stuff and improved deal for our  beef going other way

So, on what we know they have no reason for concerns

 

Badenochs 'uk shafted' should see the end of her

The concerns will come on price.

Did hear that America subsidises its beef sector- if this is correct then that becomes greatly unfair.

Just looking- it does support the industry, including on crops that are grown to feed cattle.

How that compares with our farm payments I've no idea.

Probably comes down to economies of scale and maybe production techniques. 

Edited May 8, 2025 by Tonge moor green jacket

[BobyBrno]

Both the US and India trade deals have been going on for years. The common denominator seems to be Donald Trump. Am I wrong?

[Spider]

Go on lads

Give the Boss some credit.

He's getting things over the line whilst having to face down chirruping bellends in the Commons.

Just admit the Gaffer closes the deals, like all the best negotiators do.

Even with cranks like Trump.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

No doubt.

The new America deal sees our tariffs on American good greatly reduced, whilst they have still have them on our cars. A better position for them from where there were, and a worse one for us. 

However, it's much better for us than it would have been with no agreement. 

Time will tell as to what effects it has.

Starmer had no option though- lesser of two evils- so whilst Badenoch has a theoretical point, in reality it's OK.

The benefit of being in opposition- can criticise all you want, without having to face reality. Labour won the election on it.

[Spider]

Interest rates down today, and a new pope as well.

 

Some week he’s having and it’s still only Thursday.

#Grafter

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 minute ago, Spider said:

Interest rates down today, and a new pope as well.

 

Some week he’s having and it’s still only Thursday.

#Grafter

He doesn't set interest rates.

Inflation has dropped as a result of oil price dropping.

BoE can follow accordingly (a quicker response than they had incorrectly done before).

Oil price down as a result of a slow down economically in the world. Some places in or nearing recession. 

Good news for us mortgage holders, but hopefully not a forewarning of future difficulties. 

The current tax take has dropped apparently, which isn't going to help.

 

[Spider]

6 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

He doesn't set interest rates.

Inflation has dropped as a result of oil price dropping.

BoE can follow accordingly (a quicker response than they had incorrectly done before).

Oil price down as a result of a slow down economically in the world. Some places in or nearing recession. 

Good news for us mortgage holders, but hopefully not a forewarning of future difficulties. 

The current tax take has dropped apparently, which isn't going to help.

 

I’ve heard he’s announcing that he’s discovered a cure for cancer tomorrow.

 

[royal white]

29 minutes ago, Spider said:

I’ve heard he’s announcing that he’s discovered a cure for cancer tomorrow.

 

He bought it off Trump

[BobyBrno]

53 minutes ago, Spider said:

Interest rates down today, and a new pope as well.

 

Some week he’s having and it’s still only Thursday.

#Grafter

Remember when interest rates were around 1%? For ten years under the Tories. Lowest in all our lifetimes. Down to 4.25% and it’s seen as a success. 

[Spider]

35 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Remember when interest rates were around 1%? For ten years under the Tories. Lowest in all our lifetimes. Down to 4.25% and it’s seen as a success. 

I was just observing that they have come down today. The past belongs in the past, as I’m told very often.

And deals are being done.

Simply observing.

Edited May 8, 2025 by Spider

[Zico]

3 hours ago, burnden said:

 

[gonzo]

[BobyBrno]

1 hour ago, Spider said:

I was just observing that they have come down today. The past belongs in the past, as I’m told very often.

And deals are being done.

Simply observing.

No problem. Glad that you brought it up so that I could show the graph again. Remembering those good old days of 1% interest rates for 10 years. 
 

[Spider]

6 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

No problem. Glad that you brought it up so that I could show the graph again. Remembering those good old days of 1% interest rates for 10 years. 
 

I’m only really observing on the present.

The past can’t be changed, we need to look forwards. That’s a future past we can control.

[Nowack]

37 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Remembering those good old days of 1% interest rates for 10 years. 
 

Now we know your taking the piss. 

[bolty58]

16 hours ago, Ani said:

Seems like we are announcing trade deal with US today, wonder if it will include NI exemptions ? If not what will the Brexiteers complain about this time ? 

Remoaners.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

7 hours ago, Nowack said:

Now we know your taking the piss. 

Indeed.

Seems to be the only thing Spider gets!

Towards the end though, the BoE really did fuck up by sticking too long on the low rates, and enjoying QE.

Brings the independent management into focus again.

Pros and cons.