What is that "mate" of mine Sadiq Khan trying to achieve ?

 

You lost you demented little cretin, get over it and concentrate on your job you terrorist sympathiser.

The benefit is we get to chose how we control immigration not some unelected body of half wits in Brussels.

But we already chose how we control immigration, via both our place within in the EU and our MEP's like Farage and not being in the Shengen agreement

Edited December 5, 20178 yr by frank_spencer

But we already chose how we control immigration, via both our place within in the EU and our MEP's like Farage and not being in the Shengen agreement

 

You're wasting your time. Mounts doesn't deal in facts.

Nothing has been settled negotiations are ongoing, it was always going to be a political piece of theatre but ultimately all will be settled agreed and we will carry on without any major disruptions and without any massive effects on ours or Europe’s economy, you need to stop worrying fella.

You're a moving target Mounts, subtly changing your position as the chaos develops pretending it was your view all along. You've gone from "fuck em all off, they can whistle for their money in fact they owe us money" and often you said "they will come to their senses as they need us as much as we need them" to being happy to stump up €50b and suggesting that stage 2 is going to be a piece of piss with business as usual.

You're a moving target Mounts, subtly changing your position as the chaos develops pretending it was your view all along. You've gone from "fuck em all off, they can whistle for their money in fact they owe us money" and often you said "they will come to their senses as they need us as much as we need them" to being happy to stump up €50b and suggesting that stage 2 is going to be a piece of piss with business as usual.

 

It's not Mounts' fault he's unhinged. It's the EU.

You're a moving target Mounts, subtly changing your position as the chaos develops pretending it was your view all along. You've gone from "fuck em all off, they can whistle for their money in fact they owe us money" and often you said "they will come to their senses as they need us as much as we need them" to being happy to stump up €50b and suggesting that stage 2 is going to be a piece of piss with business as usual.

 

Sorry your wrong think your quoting Boris, I’ve said we’d offer an olive branch which we don’t really have to. I’m more than happy to pay what we owe and if it’s 50 billion for our liabilities and for our contributions until 2019 then so be it as long as we eventually leave. I think we could have got away with less if the UK was united rather than half of us backing the EU. I stand by my original and continuing position it’ll get sorted without ruining ours or the EU economy. I think your assesment of what’s going to happen is completely driven by your complete believe in the bollocks spouted by remain you’ll not be suprised to know I think that i think their argument is complete cock and bull.

The benefit is we get to chose how we control immigration not some unelected body of half wits in Brussels.

Aye, we get to choose

 

But we are going to choose to let Europeans come here as tourists as it’s a benefit to our economy

 

We will choose to let them come here and do the shit jobs that nobody wants to do as it’s a huge benefit to our economy

 

We are likely to choose to let them come here to do the much needed skilled work like nursing

 

It’s also likely that we will choose to let the high earning bankers and footballers come here and work as they pay huge amounts of tax

 

Who is it that we are going to be turning away when we get ‘choose’ who comes in? Please don’t say criminals because we can already turn them away

Aye, we get to choose

 

But we are going to choose to let Europeans come here as tourists as it’s a benefit to our economy

 

We will choose to let them come here and do the shit jobs that nobody wants to do as it’s a huge benefit to our economy

 

We are likely to choose to let them come here to do the much needed skilled work like nursing

 

It’s also likely that we will choose to let the high earning bankers and footballers come here and work as they pay huge amounts of tax

 

Who is it that we are going to be turning away when we get ‘choose’ who comes in? Please don’t say criminals because we can already turn them away

We get to choose that’s all I’m interested in.

We get to choose that’s all I’m interested in.

 

Whilst ignoring the fact we can already "choose", declaring himself a pure patriot, insulting/ignoring anyone who shows him facts, then fucking off to Spain anyway.

This thread

 

 

Which one is Mounts?????

Which one is Mounts?

 

Subconsciously, he's both.

spain decides on a major clampdown to sort out the seperatists

 

franco rises to power

 

all foreign owned properties repatriated

 

id love it

Having property in Spain and driving prices up for locals is sound tho as long as Johnny Foreigner doesn’t come to the uk to take the jobs.

Apart from the fact unionists of every persuasion don't want a physical border either that's a perfect solution...

DUP don't want to see a border, their issue is with the differentiation of rules applying to Northern Ireland that make it appear seperate from the rest of the U.K. , which they say they won't stand for , on this subject at least, they are quite happy to differentiate themselves when it suits and have no qualms being different than the rest of the U.K. In some areas of law and not wanting to be direct governed from London, but they wouldn't accept your towers and checkpoints either

 

 

My grenades must be damp if that's the most outrage I can muster.

 

Wasn't serious by the way. No one wants 'the troubles' back unless they are a complete lunatic and I am sure a hard border would be enough of a reason for some scurrilous bloodthirsty types to use as an excuse for it.

 

We just can't be dictated to by the ROI who many suspect have more sinister political motives which the DUP are never going to accept.

The current system exists in a customs union. That is the point. What do you have when not in a customs union! 

 

Everything that everyone says is "this works well as it is". 

 

Why the hell are we leaving then?

 

 

Because 52% voted to. Simple.

You've got leading lights of the Brexit campaign doing it. They are the most qualified (in theory) to deliver this. The who thing could be done in a matter of months we were told. No disruption. No economic pain. All be over before Christmas.

 

We can't even get past the first, tiniest, easiest-peasiest hurdle without a major internal political fallout. And then as the hurdle appears into view you have Brexit supporters saying "uhh why can't everything just stay as it is".  

 

 

You conveniently overlook the work being done by treacherous Remoaners and their allies in the failed political experiment to stall, obstruct and prolong in the hope that they can reverse a democratically arrived at result.

 

That is part of the reason why the 'easiest-peasiest' hurdles are becoming Steeplechase fences.

spain decides on a major clampdown to sort out the seperatists

 

franco rises to power

 

all foreign owned properties repatriated

 

id love it

 

 

I am sure the huge blow to their economy would be loved too. 

 

Sounds more like the green eyed monster than the Greenmount Shaker to me.

Edited December 6, 20178 yr by bolty58

Having property in Spain and driving prices up for locals is sound tho as long as Johnny Foreigner doesn’t come to the uk to take the jobs.

 

 

I think you need to do some more research mate. Driving prices up?

 

I spend a good amount of time there and the economy benefits hugely from the Brits being there. Suggest you go and talk to some of these locals you refer to and ask them their opinion on this subject. Almost to a man they will tell you that they wish there were even more coming and bringing their money with them.

I think you need to do some more research mate. Driving prices up?

 

I spend a good amount of time there and the economy benefits hugely from the Brits being there. Suggest you go and talk to some of these locals you refer to and ask them their opinion on this subject. Almost to a man they will tell you that they wish there were even more coming and bringing their money with them.

I think your quite right bolts. Very similar to asking someone in the UK if the economy improves with foreign money coming in?

I think your quite right bolts. Very similar to asking someone in the UK if the economy improves with foreign money coming in?

 

 

Yep and I am sure once all the bullshit is over the amount of US dollars, Australian dollars, Chinese Renminbi, Japanese Yen etc. flowing into the UK will be improving the UK's economy.

 

Just wish a crazy ransom wasn't about to be paid out first.

You conveniently overlook the work being done by treacherous Remoaners and their allies in the failed political experiment to stall, obstruct and prolong in the hope that they can reverse a democratically arrived at result.

 

That is part of the reason why the 'easiest-peasiest' hurdles are becoming Steeplechase fences.

 

It has no impact. Zero. The only people who can affect this are the government. Theresa I suppose was a remainer. So perhaps you're pointing the finger at her and in fairness she is the worst PM we've had in a long time. 

 

What we're seeing currently is what happens when you let the Brexit inmates run the asylum. And what we'll see at some point soon is the lunatic left being let in to run the country because the centre ground has been abandoned and the Tory party are incompetent. 

 

Cameron should never have gone, look at the mess now. 

My grenades must be damp if that's the most outrage I can muster.

 

Wasn't serious by the way. No one wants 'the troubles' back unless they are a complete lunatic and I am sure a hard border would be enough of a reason for some scurrilous bloodthirsty types to use as an excuse for it.

 

We just can't be dictated to by the ROI who many suspect have more sinister political motives which the DUP are never going to accept.

Long past outrage by anything posted on here mate :-D

 

ROI didn’t dictate anything, but their concerns must be taken into account as do both sides in any discussion, the DUP blame the ROI for everything from marching bans to the fact the wrong person got voted off X factor so no surprise this is their fault according to the DUP, if anything, the dictating was done by the DUP if anything, moderate unionist opinion seemed to favour the deal also, as it would give NI a very appealing “ best of both worlds” , which granted would have caused other issues in the rest of the uk but don’t forget the majority of the electorate in NI voted to remain, so most people may have been happy with the deal as it would have been good for the region, however, for balance, the DUP were staunch leave and staunch unionist so in essence how they are acting is exactly as their mandate and policies said they would and what their support would want, so you have to give that to them even if it means it’s not the best idea for NI as a whole, which is debatable.

It has no impact. Zero. The only people who can affect this are the government. Theresa I suppose was a remainer. So perhaps you're pointing the finger at her and in fairness she is the worst PM we've had in a long time. 

 

What we're seeing currently is what happens when you let the Brexit inmates run the asylum. And what we'll see at some point soon is the lunatic left being let in to run the country because the centre ground has been abandoned and the Tory party are incompetent. 

 

Cameron should never have gone, look at the mess now. 

 

Cameron set this up with no provision whatsoever for the possibility of losing the referendum.

May may have limitations, not least from her own election fiasco, but she has done more of benefit to the nation than Cameron did.

It has no impact. Zero. The only people who can affect this are the government. Theresa I suppose was a remainer. So perhaps you're pointing the finger at her and in fairness she is the worst PM we've had in a long time. 

 

 

 

She'll go down as one of the worst PMs without a doubt, I'm expecting her to be gone shortly, I really am. Yet's it's only about 12 months or so since she was being hailed as a new Margaret Thatcher, by some, based on one mildly amusing quip on her maiden speech as PM.

 

The last General Election was the ideal time for her party to almost wipe out Labour, instead she "fought" the worst campaign ever and has now managed, in less than 12 months to have Labour from being miles behind and almost dead and buried to being ahead in the polls by about 8% (obvs depending on which polls you look at) - she really is terrible.

 

I'm still amazed that somebody who clearly wants to "remain" is allowed to be in charge during this critical exit process, still, I suppose if Johnson, Gove and Davis are the only other options........

 

Last year, people were talking about how the Labour could be wiped out for a generation..............under Mays tenure, that looks like it could easily be reversed and the Conservatives could suffer for a long time, as they will be blamed (rightly or wrongly) for this immense shitstorm that Brexit will eventually turn into 

Help me out

 

One of the arguments is that we get out more than we put in, right?

 

So if they want £50billion to "tidy up outstanding monies owed", presumably they owe us a bit more than that in "outstanding monies owed"?

 

Or are they just going to take the dosh, give it to Greece and we get nothing in return? (apart from blue passports, obvs)

 

I'm dead confused, me, like.

Cameron set this up with no provision whatsoever for the possibility of losing the referendum.

May may have limitations, not least from her own election fiasco, but she has done more of benefit to the nation than Cameron did.

 

Both Cameron and May are equally guilty of misreading a situation. Cameron was cock-sure a remain vote would ensue and May thought the feeling towards Labour and in particular, Corbyn, would see her through a General Election.

 

The Government needs to accept that they have their fingers so far away from the pulse that they have no idea what the country outside of the leafy suburbs are thinking.