What is that "mate" of mine Sadiq Khan trying to achieve ?

 

You lost you demented little cretin, get over it and concentrate on your job you terrorist sympathiser.

Most folk knew there would be a bill to pay for our liabilities

Well the conversation at the time from Leavers was all about the £350m a week we were going to save.

The pension liabilities will span over decades so won’t feel as bad as a one off payment up front

 

Be interesting to know what % of the divorce bill is down to pensions

 

Still don’t think the divorce bill is as bad as it sounds, it’s the eventual loss of membership to the single market that will have the biggest hit on us

One newspaper reporting this morning that the £50bn is the initial settlement with future pensions liabilities adding a further £40bn on top of that.

Must be true if it’s in the papers

Just heard on Bloomberg that the bill is not settled but the way to calculate the divorce bill has been agreed.

must be true if its on bloomberg

Must be true if it’s in the papers

Some of us don't get our Brexit information from the side of a campaign bus.

I absolutely agree Your right some of us don't.

It's like cancelling your Sky subscription, then paying half price for another 10 yrs, but not seeing any telly.

Depends what the contract says!

I absolutely agree Your right some of us don't.

Shame most of the electorate did.

All leavers are ignorant morons

 

All remainders are visionary geniuses

All leavers are ignorant morons

 

All remainders are visionary geniuses

 

 

its taken you longer than i would've expected to catch on

Shame most of the electorate did.

I assume you are referring to the electorate who voted to leave and not those voting to remain.

 

Your in danger of starting to sound like one of our other posters who believes anybody who doesn't share their opinion is of inferior intelligence.

 

Based upon what we knew at that time, which it appears now on both sides wasn't very much, we all voted.

 

I believe that with all the facts now coming to the surface we should hold another referendum to give the public the final say. It should have always been this way.

Based upon what we knew at that time, which it appears now on both sides wasn't very much, we all voted.

 

I believe that with all the facts now coming to the surface we should hold another referendum to give the public the final say. It should have always been this way.

 

Said this at the time and was why I abstained.

 

It was foolish to have the vote and a political stunt that may potentially backfire (well, I suppose it has already in that our Gov is having to put all emphasis on this rather than actual UK based issues such as public funding, the potential care home crisis  etc).  Saying that, it could be a good thing for the UK in the longer term - only time will tell I suppose.

 

My take on it was that no-one had a clue what was best and no-one could give accurate numbers to back their argument up.

Edited November 29, 20178 yr by madthatter

So we pay £40bn upfront and save £10bn a year, ad Infinitum?

 

Sounds like a reasonable investment

Most folk knew there would be a bill to pay for our liabilities 

 

Most folk didn't have a clue we would be stung with a "divorce bill"

Seriously, can anybody think that half-cocked deal is better than what we have already?

 

Yes.

So we pay £40bn upfront and save £10bn a year, ad Infinitum?

 

Sounds like a reasonable investment

Disconnect your house from the national grid. By the time you die, you'll have saved an absolute fortune.

So we pay £40bn upfront and save £10bn a year, ad Infinitum?

 

Sounds like a reasonable investment

The £40b+ is just the divorce bill we haven't started on trade talks yet and what we will have to pay for access to the single market or customs union. There'll be little or no change from the net £8.6b we currently pay and then there's the issue about agreeing to four freedoms should we be allowed access. 

The £40b+ is just the divorce bill we haven't started on trade talks yet and what we will have to pay for access to the single market or customs union. There'll be little or no change from the net £8.6b we currently pay and then there's the issue about agreeing to four freedoms should we be allowed access. 

 

There were some dicks on the radio earlier who seemed to be under the misapprehension that the £40B is what we needed to pay to have the access - they didn't realise that it's just the amount that we had to pay to honour our commitments (of which we will get some back as well of course)  -  we'll be paying plenty more if we want free trade moving forward

We will end up paying the same or very close to it, and having no say in what goes on

We will end up paying the same or very close to it, and having no say in what goes on

 

Yes, but we'll have blue passports

There were some dicks on the radio earlier who seemed to be under the misapprehension that the £40B is what we needed to pay to have the access - they didn't realise that it's just the amount that we had to pay to honour our commitments (of which we will get some back as well of course)  -  we'll be paying plenty more if we want free trade moving forward

The ignorance around the implications of the whole brexit process is scary. The vision of this utopia that was created by the leavers couldn't be further from the truth so at some point the penny will drop and the reality will set in that we have made the biggest mistake of our lifetimes.

Edited November 29, 20178 yr by Salford Trotter

Said this at the time and was why I abstained.

 

It was foolish to have the vote and a political stunt that may potentially backfire (well, I suppose it has already in that our Gov is having to put all emphasis on this rather than actual UK based issues such as public funding, the potential care home crisis etc). Saying that, it could be a good thing for the UK in the longer term - only time will tell I suppose.

 

My take on it was that no-one had a clue what was best and no-one could give accurate numbers to back their argument up.

Similar feelings to you but I voted remain as I was happy to continue with the way things were.

I'm not massively pro EU but whilst there were flaws (like in any large organisation) there was nothing that appealed to me about being out of the EU.

I could only really see problems

The ignorance around the implications of whole brexit process is scary. The vision of this utopia that was created by the leavers couldn't be further from the truth so at some point the penny will drop and the reality will set in that we have made the biggest mistake of our lifetimes.

 

The biggest mistake was joining in the first place. Despite denials it was always clear that the long-term desire was a single state.

The biggest mistake was joining in the first place. Despite denials it was always clear that the long-term desire was a single state.

 

That might be right, but obviously now that we're in, it's going to be deeply unpleasant for us whilst we extract ourselves (if we ever actually do of course)