stevieb Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said: And it gets worse. Our elections aren’t based on who has more votes overall, it’s about seats. Unless it's a referendum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Just now, stevieb said: Unless it's a referendum Indeed. Although that’s not an election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 19 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Sadly for you he won’t destroy it enough for your party to get close to winning the next election. I ain’t got a party. As long as Boris these fuckers that will do for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 22 minutes ago, Moon boy said: Thought they wanted a GE Right now? They’d be stupid to whilst the Tories are eating themselves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said: And it gets worse. Our elections aren’t based on who has more votes overall, it’s about seats. Well I never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh white Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Let's pretend as a young kid trying to get his future, all this shite is doing us harm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 7 hours ago, mickbrown said: Right now? They’d be stupid to whilst the Tories are eating themselves https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/07/tories-extend-lead-over-labour-to-10-despite-chaotic-week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 8 hours ago, leigh white said: Let's pretend as a young kid trying to get his future, all this shite is doing us harm. It's sad, doing a lot of harm to ourselves and becoming a more divided society, whilst they argue amongst themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon boy Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 8 hours ago, Jol_BWFC said: And it gets worse. Our elections aren’t based on who has more votes overall, it’s about seats. What a revelation, you’d better let Starmer/ Swinson know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, boltondiver said: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/07/tories-extend-lead-over-labour-to-10-despite-chaotic-week Exactly why Boris is taking the course of action he is, Tories will win the next GE possibly with a working Majority that might finally get Brexit done, yet some folk on here think BJ is going down like a lead balloon and destroying the Tory party. 😂🤣😂 Edited September 8, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 31 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: It's sad, doing a lot of harm to ourselves and becoming a more divided society, whilst they argue amongst themselves. If remainers accepted the result and allowed the government to get on to negotiate the deal then we’d of left, moved on and there would no longer be a divide, that they won’t means folk who voted leave have had to continue to argue to make sure that we leave, it’s important that we do and that democracy finally wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Exactly why Boris is taking the course of action he is, Tories will win the next GE possibly with a working Majority that might finally get Brexit done, yet some folk on here think BJ is going down like a lead balloon and destroying the Tory party. 😂🤣😂 Some people think both are true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 35 minutes ago, Moon boy said: What a revelation, you’d better let Starmer/ Swinson know I think everyone but Mounts already knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 8, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted September 8, 2019 12 hours ago, peelyfeet said: I think authorities aren't arsed as much when the media/adds are used to try and persuade you to buy a certain brand of trainers, a book, holiday destination, because deep down they're just after your cash. With the CA/Facebook thing, they were trying to push a political agenda by distorting the bias in favour of one party/ideal (because of the motivations of the founder of CA). An analogy would be BBC1 allowing a Tory political broadcast to be an hour long, but Labour ones only 5 mins, Ofcom regulation wouldn't allow it. Also the method they used to extract the data is illegal, breaking data protection laws in UK and US. https://www.google.com/amp/s/techcrunch.com/2019/01/09/cambridge-analyticas-parent-pleads-guilty-to-breaking-uk-data-law/amp/ I can understand all that, agree to an extent. However when you have a government machine coming out with hugely outlandish statements, is that not similar behaviour? Who is looking at that and saying stop abusing your privilege of position? Were folk frightened by it and convinced voting out would lead to catastrophic economic developments? It became a dirty fight no doubt, not sure about the impact on either side; would imagine most had already decided. For those left, perhaps the dark side, led by Lord Analytica was more attractive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted September 8, 2019 Moderators Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said: If remainers accepted the result and allowed the government to get on to negotiate the deal then we’d of left, moved on and there would no longer be a divide, that they won’t means folk who voted leave have had to continue to argue to make sure that we leave, it’s important that we do and that democracy finally wins. If mogg and his twats had voted for Mays deal, we would be out That's where you need to direct your ire She shouldve kicked them out of the party, that seems to be the way of things A few public school boys Fcuking our country over Who wouldve ever thought Btw, I've never voted anything other than Tory I won't be voting for what bozo is creating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Casino said: If mogg and his twats had voted for Mays deal, we would be out That's where you need to direct your ire She shouldve kicked them out of the party, that seems to be the way of things A few public school boys Fcuking our country over Who wouldve ever thought Btw, I've never voted anything other than Tory I won't be voting for what bozo is creating except that deal wasn't Brexit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted September 8, 2019 Moderators Share Posted September 8, 2019 It wasn't your brexit Which isn't the same thing But if you want to polish moggs shoes, you crack on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 I read this earlier. Seems to sum it up quite nicely. In 2016, the British people were asked what they thought of the idea of skydiving. In a referendum, they narrowly answered that, in theory, they’d be willing to give it a try. For three years, the British government has claimed that it is close to reaching a deal with the EU and acquiring the wherewithal for making a safe-ish jump possible. But the position of Mr. Johnson’s new government is that since Britain voted for the idea of skydiving, then skydiving there must be. On Oct. 31, Britain has no option but to jump out of a plane, parachute or no parachute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 3 hours ago, boltondiver said: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/07/tories-extend-lead-over-labour-to-10-despite-chaotic-week They ain’t finished yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyStardust Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, mickbrown said: I read this earlier. Seems to sum it up quite nicely. In 2016, the British people were asked what they thought of the idea of skydiving. In a referendum, they narrowly answered that, in theory, they’d be willing to give it a try. For three years, the British government has claimed that it is close to reaching a deal with the EU and acquiring the wherewithal for making a safe-ish jump possible. But the position of Mr. Johnson’s new government is that since Britain voted for the idea of skydiving, then skydiving there must be. On Oct. 31, Britain has no option but to jump out of a plane, parachute or no parachute. In 2016, the British people were asked what they thought of the idea of skydiving. In a referendum, they narrowly answered that, in theory, they’d be willing to give it a try. For three years, the British government has claimed that it is close to reaching a deal with the EU and acquiring the wherewithal for making a safe-ish jump possible. But the position of The Eu is that they do not want the British to parachute without other members of the Eu being allowed to parachute alongside, at the expense of the British, so they will not allow any British planes to fly over landmasses where there is a European country. Some of the British Parliament therefore say that no Briton should parachute, ever, and that all there is to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted September 8, 2019 Moderators Share Posted September 8, 2019 So, we have all the cards, but the eu have all the parachutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 37 minutes ago, boltondiver said: except that deal wasn't Brexit Leavers day that if you look at the referendum forms there was no mention of Deal/No deal and on that basis no deal is ok. But on the same logic people saying we should do a deal must be ok as we never defined what Leave meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Just now, Casino said: So, we have all the cards, but the eu have all the parachutes We have all the planes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted September 8, 2019 Moderators Share Posted September 8, 2019 That's fine, then Chocks away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: I can understand all that, agree to an extent. However when you have a government machine coming out with hugely outlandish statements, is that not similar behaviour? Who is looking at that and saying stop abusing your privilege of position? Were folk frightened by it and convinced voting out would lead to catastrophic economic developments? It became a dirty fight no doubt, not sure about the impact on either side; would imagine most had already decided. For those left, perhaps the dark side, led by Lord Analytica was more attractive. The government didn’t come out with any outlandish statements. You’ve been so well brainwashed that you believe that guff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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