Leyther_Matt Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 38 minutes ago, MancWanderer said: Understand your point but this group of McGinlay, Iles, Burnden Aces, and some Twatter groups that continue to repeat the same message that Ken should go As pretty much everyone on here says and knows........we want Ken to sell, Ken wants to sell, but nobody has popped up to volunteer to buy us......so why do we listen to the same old rehashed Anderson out shit. It serves no purpose. No purpose at all. Because there is no solution offered And, yes, I will take it on the chin, and accept, that I will continually criticise shit like this and the protest march, and fail to come up with a solution either. It's because I don't have one. So I don't feel the need to keep repeating the same message on both social and mainstream media. And will keep my opinions on here and nowehere else There is a pretty simple solution - people get behind the club in numbers and make it attractive for a buyer. None of the protesters have actually come up with a club where there’s been a successful resolution in similar circumstances. The closest one I can think of is Leeds but they did things properly and took thousands away from home to show the potential of the fan base whilst boycotting home games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boby Brno Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Johnnyrotten said: We have a legendary player who gives a toss enough to turn up at stuff like this or at a demonstration. But his business went pear shaped so we slag him off for getting involved? I'm missing the point clearly, but I personally think it makes him even more of a hero. Do you have to run a successful business before you can have an opinion on the running of a football club? Some people would rather question an ex (legendary) footballers past business failings than the current owners past business failings. John McGinlay will always be remembered for what he did on the football field not in business. For reasons that I cannot understand, some people are trying to smear the name of a footballer in defence of someone with a history of business impropriety. Edited January 13, 2019 by Boby Brno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted January 13, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Johnnyrotten said: We have a legendary player who gives a toss enough to turn up at stuff like this or at a demonstration. But his business went pear shaped so we slag him off for getting involved? I'm missing the point clearly, but I personally think it makes him even more of a hero. Do you have to run a successful business before you can have an opinion on the running of a football club? I don’t come to where you work and tell you how much salt goes on the fries do I? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Portsmouth got over 2,000 people to pledge a grand each, with a couple of dozen contributing 20k plus each. Our ST got tenners all round, but struggled for a second round. It seems unlikely that a worthy investor will come in for BWFC but the ST is a million miles away from where it should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 I think the reason McGinlay's failed business gets mentioned is because he's publicly decrying Ken's ability to run his business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 What sort of sad dullard would actually want to attend this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Just now, Sweep said: What sort of sad dullard would actually want to attend this? What time are you arriving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Traf said: Absolutely nothing in it for them to attend. I'd actually fear for their safety Plenty in it for them from what i can see. Address the imbalance that seems to be gathering against them is one good reason. No top brass would be harmed during this event. Anyway, I'll listen. But seems a pointless exercise if no opposing views are going to be aired. It will be like Question Time with a table of Brexiteers. SJM needs to keep his nose out. Taking a pro-active approach, like he seems to be doing, will be embarrassing. Especially when only a dozen or so cardigan wearers, grannies and kids turn up for the wba protest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Underpants said: Plenty in it for them from what i can see. Address the imbalance that seems to be gathering against them is one good reason. No top brass would be harmed during this event. Do you really think they'd be able to get any point across without being abused? I don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Traf said: Do you really think they'd be able to get any point across without being abused? I don't. Yes, I do. Folk will always bark loud. But plenty will want to hear what he has to say. You can't keep pumping out statements via the site. In my eyes KA has a lot of talking to do. The tide has significantly turned against Anderson in the past 7 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 58 minutes ago, Boby Brno said: Some people would rather question an ex (legendary) footballers past business failings than the current owners past business failings. John McGinlay will always be remembered for what he did on the football field not in business. For reasons that I cannot understand, some people are trying to smear the name of a footballer in defence of someone with a history of business impropriety. It’s a little bit more than that for some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boby Brno Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 15 minutes ago, Traf said: Do you really think they'd be able to get any point across without being abused? I don't. Maybe, maybe not. I certainly don’t think they will get any physical abuse but they should certainly give the fans the courtesy of an a appearance. ( if asked) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrycowdrill Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) It’s got to the point with Ken now where unless he comes out and breaks down where every single penny over his tenure has gone, why it went that way, what payment(s) were missed and why it’ll never be enough for the ‘majority’ i say ‘majority’ because a large portion of those clowns I’ve seen recently posting on wherever claiming he is a crook, scum etc etc but for the last 5-10 years haven’t put a penny in to the club themselves. Sit in the local boozer every week pissing their money away moaning about what a shambles the club is. Their view, voice or whatever counts for fuck all in my eyes They actually cannot see / look beyond the fact that the majority of deals done cannot be exposed due to NDA’s / legal issues etc But they want blood. If he gave it up tomorrow and we fell in to admin ( the very thing he’s trying to stave off) it would be his fault hes been in a no win situation for months. He speaks out he gets shit he stays quiet he gets shit. he needs to steer clear of discussions such as this, created by people who have proven cannot deliver a balanced opinion, keep his counsel and continue trying to keep the club afloat. Edited January 13, 2019 by barrycowdrill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boby Brno Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 This Radio Manchester forum is open to all. Anyone who feels strongly enough either way, go along. This isn’t North Korea. Make your point in person instead of posting on an Internet forum. It really is that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted January 13, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) 50 minutes ago, MalcolmW said: What time are you arriving? Yes, Malc!!! Sorry Sweep, pwoppa Pwned there buddy! Edited January 13, 2019 by MickyD Fat thumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boby Brno Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 23 minutes ago, gonzo said: It’s a little bit more than that for some. I believe some on here may have issues with certain ex footballers. Add me to that list. ( also add me to the very long list of creditors of BWFC) According to some on here, that’s normal business practice and goes on all the time. So what’s the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, Traf said: I think the reason McGinlay's failed business gets mentioned is because he's publicly decrying Ken's ability to run his business. It's not about the running of the business though is it. How about embarrassing the club unnecessarily every time he opens his mouth, or the blatant lies and untruths that we've lost count of, and the 'small' people he has let down for the want of small (to him) payments. It's so much more than whether he can get us out of this hole, its his persona and morals that are rightly questioned and respect to SJM for being arsed enough to stand up and say it's just not good enough to treat BWFC, and its employees, like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: It's not about the running of the business though is it. Honestly, I don't know. Frankly, I don't give two shits about McGinlay's opinion. I was merely suggesting why some people think he might be the best person for this task. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 13, 2019 Moderators Share Posted January 13, 2019 Is McGinlay appearing as himself or representing the trust in his ambassador role? And, imo, his previous running businesses is relevant If he acknowledged the difficult job Anderson is trying to do, I'd listen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Do we know what he did with all those TVs they removed from the pub? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted January 13, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Traf said: Do we know what he did with all those TVs they removed from the pub? Turn up at the meeting and ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 minute ago, MickyD said: Turn up at the meeting and ask. Do you think I'm that interested? A 90-minute, 70-mile roundtrip for that. No, I've made my feelings clear abut attending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 13, 2019 Moderators Share Posted January 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, MickyD said: Turn up at the meeting and ask. I thought the questions were selected in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boby Brno Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Casino said: Is McGinlay appearing as himself or representing the trust in his ambassador role? And, imo, his previous running businesses is relevant If he acknowledged the difficult job Anderson is trying to do, I'd listen Are Anderson’s previous business dealings relevant? Surely this is the crux of this discussion. McGinlays business dealings are just a diversion. Nat had a pub once. It didn’t work out for him. Shall we also discuss that? In fact, let’s talk about a few other ex players whose businesses didn’t work out. Its a long list. None are owners of our football club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane57 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, Casino said: Is McGinlay appearing as himself or representing the trust in his ambassador role? And, imo, his previous running businesses is relevant If he acknowledged the difficult job Anderson is trying to do, I'd listen Just read it now and there's no mention of the Trust. FWIW I was speaking to someone involved in arranging the meeting before WBA earlier today and he mentioned that they'd reached out to the Trust for support only to be met by complete silence. I would've expected them to be all over something so overtly anti-Ken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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