Mannyroader Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 (edited) Not Parky, not Sunbed, so who? Be realistic, so I'll rule out Mourinho and Benitez. Roy Keane? Nobby; who has a 40% win rate? A N Other? Decisions made in the next 2 weeks may well be critical to the next 5 years of the club's existence. Edited June 30, 2019 by Mannyroader
DomRepWanderer Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 Said it before, Appleton would do a good job here.
Matthew1234 Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Mannyroader said: Not Parky, not Sunbed, so who? Be realistic, so I'll rule out Mourinho and Benitez. Roy Keane? Nobby; who has a 40% win rate? A N Other? Decisions made in the next 2 weeks may well be critical to the next 5 years of the club's existence. It's a very fair question. If you compare PP's record with the likes of Keane, Phil stands head and shoulders above them. It depends on the direction we want to take. I think Marc Iles said a few months back that FV wanted to follow a "Preston" approach bringing through youth. On that note, then David Lee isn't a bad shout. Again though - that's a very risky approach as he has no experience. It's a huge decision to take and I'm fascinated which way they decide to turn Edited June 30, 2019 by Matthew1234
sleepingindian Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Matthew1234 said: It's a very fair question. If you compare PP's record with the likes of Keane, Phil stands head and shoulders above them. It depends on the direction we want to take. I think Marc Iles said a few months back that FV wanted to follow a "Preston" approach bringing through youth. On that note, then David Lee isn't a bad shout. Again though - that's a very risky approach as he has no experience. It's a huge decision to take and I'm fascinated which way they decide to turn think thats why they wanted mark warberton on board. with his brentford job he did
Sluffy Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 I'm still a bit confused as to where the hotel fit into this? If we take everything together - before Admin if you like - we had a number of secured creditors which included Prescott Business Park(James) - £5.5m secured specifically against the hotel and Anderson £5m. .The thing though is that the 'Tangible Fixed Assets' at the Hotel (the hotel building itself, plant and equipment, fixture and fittings, computers) in the last accounts (up to 30 June, 2017) amounted to £10.2m and depreciation alone for the next two years will amount to around another £400k or more, thus reducing the book value of the hotel at £9.8m. If James who has the first rights to the hotel takes his £5.5m then presumably the purchase price from the new owner wont cover Ken's £5m in full also, so I assume in theory he is entitled to get his remaining (secured) money back from the sale of the club. However no one would know what the shortfall would be until the hotel is sold first though. So in order to progress the sale of the club I'm guessing some sort of a deal has been done by the two separate Administrators (club's and Hotel's) to allow Ken to redeem his £5m on the hotel and whatever is left going to PBP, with James writing off the rest in return for equity into the company purchasing the club? The thing is though that James won't know how much he will end up writing off by agreeing to do this - presumably he's set a limit to his loss? Not sure how legal that is though as his £5.5m is definitely the first security against the hotel? I guess he could waive his rights though? How else could the club sale go through if the Hotel isn't part of the deal? For information the hotel lost £506k in the year up to June 2017 and £640k the year before.
Duck Egg Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 54 minutes ago, Matthew1234 said: It's a very fair question. If you compare PP's record with the likes of Keane, Phil stands head and shoulders above them. Does he? Keanes win stats at Sunderland 42% and 34% at Ipswich. That's at Championship and Premier league level.
Tommy9322 Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 54 minutes ago, Matthew1234 said: It's a very fair question. If you compare PP's record with the likes of Keane, Phil stands head and shoulders above them. It depends on the direction we want to take. I think Marc Iles said a few months back that FV wanted to follow a "Preston" approach bringing through youth. On that note, then David Lee isn't a bad shout. Again though - that's a very risky approach as he has no experience. It's a huge decision to take and I'm fascinated which way they decide to turn Doesn’t Basran co-own 10tentalents the football agency company?, If so you’d imagine he’s got footballing contacts through them.
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 21 minutes ago, Duck Egg said: Does he? Keanes win stats at Sunderland 42% and 34% at Ipswich. That's at Championship and Premier league level. Looking purely at managerial win percentages would only be worthwhile if football was a level playing field. Jack Ross' win percentage at Sunderland is 49.18%, whereas John Coleman's at Accrington Stanley last season was around 30. Yet I'd argue that Coleman keeping Accrington Stanley up was a bigger achievement.
RatchetMan Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 1 hour ago, DomRepWanderer said: Said it before, Appleton would do a good job here. And I’ve said this before, you’re absolutely clueless
Duck Egg Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: Looking purely at managerial win percentages would only be worthwhile if football was a level playing field. Jack Ross' win percentage at Sunderland is 49.18%, whereas John Coleman's at Accrington Stanley last season was around 30. Yet I'd argue that Coleman keeping Accrington Stanley up was a bigger achievement. Undoubtedly but what statistics show Parkys record to be 'head and shoulders' above Keanes?
DomRepWanderer Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, RatchetMan said: And I’ve said this before, you’re absolutely clueless I've said it before, you're an absolute wankstain
Matthew1234 Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Duck Egg said: Undoubtedly but what statistics show Parkys record to be 'head and shoulders' above Keanes? Getting us promoted first time of asking under a transfer embargo, after our horror show of a season in the championship under Lennon Keeping us up in the championship without a penny spent on transfer fees. I completely get people dont like the playing style, I haven't enjoyed watching it at times either but in my personal opinion he is head and shoulders above candidates like Keane if we ignore the car crash of the season just gone. Parkinson has a proven record in League 1, and that is why I am most curious in terms of who we would consider as a replacement. Edited June 30, 2019 by Matthew1234
RatchetMan Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 22 minutes ago, DomRepWanderer said: I've said it before, you're an absolute wankstain You’ve never said that before
DomRepWanderer Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, RatchetMan said: You’ve never said that before Doesn't mean it ain't true though.
RatchetMan Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, DomRepWanderer said: Doesn't mean it ain't true though. Cock
birch-chorley Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 I’m not sure getting us out of League 1 last time was such a huge achievement, given the budget and the players available We started with Clough and Madine, Clough had a blinding first half of season and moved on, ALF came in. Light years from what we will likely line up with next time Rest of the squad wasn’t too shabby for league 1 either Sheff Utd were leagues apart, after that we were up against the likes of Scunny and Fleetwood It won’t be anywhere near as easy this time for many reasons
radcliffe white Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: I’m not sure getting us out of League 1 last time was such a huge achievement, given the budget and the players available We started with Clough and Madine, Clough had a blinding first half of season and moved on, ALF came in. Light years from what we will likely line up with next time Rest of the squad wasn’t too shabby for league 1 either Sheff Utd were leagues apart, after that we were up against the likes of Scunny and Fleetwood It won’t be anywhere near as easy this time for many reasons Had a great squad but some think parkinson worked wonders
snowball Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 I dont care about win percentages statistics etc. I care about the eye test which is me sitting in west stand lower hating the football, wondering what exactly they do all week in training, trying to work out what system we are playing, parkys bingo machine selection and being beaten before we even got on the pitch. And any small skilful players getting nowhere near side. I dont care what record he has at this level we have suffered enough. Fresh start needed at least it will be interesting
Casino Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Had a great squad Dear me The great squad myth rolled out again A squad that had given up on the season before in a way even more pathetic than last season Who were the great ones Even our best midfielder joined a car crash club rather than sticking around I reckon I can chuck in a sticking plaster one for every one you name Barring ameobi and madine, do any of them currently play above the third level...serious, there might be some, but I cant think of any? Ps I'll give you pratley, but even that's a stretch
radcliffe white Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 Just had a look to when Leeds qualified for the play offs despite a 15 point deduction spent a few bob about 800k but generated 2m in sales, but a raft of frees and no names at that
Casino Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 FWIW, in relatively normal circumstances, I'd change the manager But, if there isn't one at the desk by Wednesday, it's one more unnecessary delay to getting a player or 15 in
radcliffe white Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Casino said: Dear me The great squad myth rolled out again A squad that had given up on the season before in a way even more pathetic than last season Who were the great ones Even our best midfielder joined a car crash club rather than sticking around I reckon I can chuck in a sticking plaster one for every one you name Barring ameobi and madine, do any of them currently play above the third level...serious, there might be some, but I cant think of any? Ps I'll give you pratley, but even that's a stretch Knew you would bite first I will go through it at Wycombe with you 😀
Casino Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 1 minute ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Just had a look to when Leeds qualified for the play offs despite a 15 point deduction spent a few bob about 800k but generated 2m in sales, but a raft of frees and no names at that Dunno where you are looking, but leeds probably paid bigger wages than we can dream of They'd have their pick of available players We are a decent draw at this level, but we are no leeds
Casino Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 1 minute ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Knew you would bite first I will go through it at Wycombe with you 😀 You scared of mentions of Tom Thorpe being great
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