radcliffe white Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: If it’s a fresh season then it should be decent I’d imagine If we have to finish off this season and it’s a non event, maybe not Oxford away the obvious exception Obviously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 If you're at a loose end - I've had to be doing quite a bit of work on consumer behaviour - thought this was an interesting find about the UK and current changes and feelings about economic recovery https://www.mckinsey.com/business-functions/marketing-and-sales/our-insights/survey-uk-consumer-sentiment-during-the-coronavirus-crisis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 2, 2020 Moderators Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Of course you may ask. I never had you as anything other than open-minded and inquisitive! Like all of us, I am interested to see if we get out of this in a reasonable place. I am interested in different views and perspectives to see if we could be doing anything better, hence reading different things. It would be interesting to see, for example, if Sweden's more liberal approach pays dividends. Right now, we don't know which approach might work out best. it just makes my shit boil when he starts off in the first paragraph with these lines: If the virus is so bad a picture is beginning to emerge based on some initial hard data quite different to the one routinely presented in the mainstream media gives a misleading impression of the real situation. Here are the important data points for gaining a true appreciation of the nature of the beast. and here's some pictures that last one is of chinese queuing up to pick up the ashes of the dead regardless of how folk might want to spin the numbers to suit their narrative, the world can not cope with the velocity at which the virus is killing people who may or may not have died anyway, and as it stands, all we currently have to try and slow it down is lockdown, whilst erecting emergency hospitals and morgues to cope but that guy is trying to convince us that the true picture lies in the numbers, and the real world is just overreacting Edited April 2, 2020 by ZicoKelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: To widen the range of views available, to look, without previous bias, analytically at an article and determine its validity, accuracy etc? As it is, it seems no one particularly agrees with it, for a range of reasons ( peelyfeet's comments that it is selective in its comparison is telling). Doesn't do any harm though to occasionally look at something in a way you've not previously done- just that in this case it doesn't offer anything which would make me think differently. Agreed. Publications like the conservative woman are preaching to an echo chamber already, most who read the article won't be changing their opinions, just reinforcing them either way. Anyone who wants scientific advise will be getting their info from scientists - if they want an ultra conservative, christian, nationalistic point of view then they go to the conservative woman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 2, 2020 Moderators Share Posted April 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: To widen the range of views available, to look, without previous bias, analytically at an article and determine its validity, accuracy etc? As it is, it seems no one particularly agrees with it, for a range of reasons ( peelyfeet's comments that it is selective in its comparison is telling). Doesn't do any harm though to occasionally look at something in a way you've not previously done- just that in this case it doesn't offer anything which would make me think differently. I think it does though, but I might be wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Why are people getting so annoyed by this? as I think it was @Mr Grey said most of the people who would be influenced by any article such as this are unlikely to be particularly literate. We all know this is gravely serious. I don’t believe anyone on here is going about life in any other way that that prescribed to us by the government currently. As such it’s a moot point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, Tombwfc said: Ok, let me rephrase... What is it about the specific credentials of Will Jones from ConservativeWoman.co.uk, that makes you believe his take is worthy of 'makesuthink' type consideration, given it contradicts a mass of experts worldwide, the governments who have deemed this serious enough to tank their own economies and the front-line health staff who all believe this to be a very big thing indeed? I wasn't aware of Will Jones at all until earlier today. That he has a PhD did not sway me at all. I posted it primarily as Casino was looking for insight into the number of deaths that might have happened in any event. Personally, I agree with you, that our Government seems to be a decent job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Like i pointed out to Zico, these pricks wont be reading any articles at all, they are just pricks who will do as they please until the Law gets a hold of them. The article is to be taken with a pinch of salt, its an opinion and contains 1 or 2 valid points and arguments. True Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boby Brno Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Mentioned a couple of times about using face masks in public in the Czech Republic. It seems to be generating interest elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Why are people getting so annoyed by this? as I think it was @Mr Grey said most of the people who would be influenced by any article such as this are unlikely to be particularly literate. We all know this is gravely serious. I don’t believe anyone on here is going about life in any other way that that prescribed to us by the government currently. As such it’s a moot point True - not much point arguing on here - i might log onto the conservative woman comment sections and give him both barrells Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Marc505 said: Shut the fuck up Peston. How irritating is listening to someone interrupt over a webcam feed that has a bit of a delay on it. Ignorant cunt! I can’t watch Peston. They way he talks gets right on my tits, like he’s dragging every other word from the deepest darkest depths of his memory. I imagine being on webcam amplifies it fucking loads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 2, 2020 Moderators Share Posted April 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Why are people getting so annoyed by this? because of fucknuts like these two - fortunately the first guy only has 24 followers and however literate folk who crack on as normal might be, they only need to read the headline to justify their behavior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 2, 2020 Moderators Share Posted April 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, Boby Brno said: Mentioned a couple of times about using face masks in public in the Czech Republic. It seems to be generating interest elsewhere. I'd be up for going out in a burkha next time i go shopping, if anyone can source one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombwfc Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 It's not just a blogger on ConservativeWomen.co.uk, Trevor Kavanagh in The Sun and Toby Young have both offered up variations of the 'wake up sheeple, it's just flu' column in the last few days. It's exactly the type of shit that re-inforces views, gets shared widely on Facebook and ultimately sees people take this virus far less seriously than they should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 2, 2020 Moderators Share Posted April 2, 2020 44 minutes ago, boltondiver said: It would be interesting to see, for example, if Sweden's more liberal approach pays dividends. reading up on this https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/herd-immunity-coronavirus-sweden-uk-a4404201.html https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/30/catastrophe-sweden-coronavirus-stoicism-lockdown-europe https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11310363/coronavirus-infect-half-swedens-population/ “This is such an infectious disease that over half of Sweden's population will be infected before the end of April,” reports Svt.se. “After that, the spread of infection will not stop, but it will go slightly slower so that about two-thirds will be infected by the end of May.” The relaxed approach has caused consternation in its Scandinavian neighbours – Denmark, Finland, and Norway. They have all introduced a no-nonsense lockdown strategy, closing schools, workplaces and borders weeks ago. The three countries combined death toll is less than Sweden's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 25 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: True - not much point arguing on here - i might log onto the conservative woman comment sections and give him both barrells Would seem much more fun to me and please let us see if you outrage folk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 14 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: ....and them scruffy sideburns that look flammable. Like most journalists he is a cnut! But not a good cunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted April 2, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted April 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: reading up on this https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/herd-immunity-coronavirus-sweden-uk-a4404201.html https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/30/catastrophe-sweden-coronavirus-stoicism-lockdown-europe https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11310363/coronavirus-infect-half-swedens-population/ “This is such an infectious disease that over half of Sweden's population will be infected before the end of April,” reports Svt.se. “After that, the spread of infection will not stop, but it will go slightly slower so that about two-thirds will be infected by the end of May.” The relaxed approach has caused consternation in its Scandinavian neighbours – Denmark, Finland, and Norway. They have all introduced a no-nonsense lockdown strategy, closing schools, workplaces and borders weeks ago. The three countries combined death toll is less than Sweden's. I'm more and more convinced that each country is told to take a slightly different stance in what they're doing. That way a "best practice" can be developed and use the version which had the best results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 19 minutes ago, Tombwfc said: It's not just a blogger on ConservativeWomen.co.uk, Trevor Kavanagh in The Sun and Toby Young have both offered up variations of the 'wake up sheeple, it's just flu' column in the last few days. It's exactly the type of shit that re-inforces views, gets shared widely on Facebook and ultimately sees people take this virus far less seriously than they should be. Yep - it emboldens those who already think like that to act like morons. The idea that it isn't read by those types is nonsense. You can see their semi-illiterate tweets repeating this sort of drivel. Its harmful and unhelpful in my view. What's enlightening is that any criticism of the government's approach is classed as "not pulling together and political point scoring" by the very same people defending this criticism of the government. Illuminating. And bloody obvious! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted April 2, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted April 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, MickyD said: I'm more and more convinced that each country is told to take a slightly different stance in what they're doing. That way a "best practice" can be developed and use the version which had the best results. Sounds a half decent idea, but not sure governments would be very popular fucking around with peoples' lives like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 2, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted April 2, 2020 51 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: and articles like this gives them justification to continue Doubt they'd read them to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, Spider said: Sounds a half decent idea, but not sure governments would be very popular fucking around with peoples' lives like that. Well, it’s an experiment to beat this thing, so it would be smart if we had a global team working on it, perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 2, 2020 Moderators Share Posted April 2, 2020 21 minutes ago, MickyD said: I'm more and more convinced that each country is told to take a slightly different stance in what they're doing. That way a "best practice" can be developed and use the version which had the best results. by "who" exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 2, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted April 2, 2020 47 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: because of fucknuts like these two - fortunately the first guy only has 24 followers and however literate folk who crack on as normal might be, they only need to read the headline to justify their behavior Think this is more justification for giving Twitter etc a wide birth. Not healthy and fucks with your head. Stick to here, running, wanking and ale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 2, 2020 Moderators Share Posted April 2, 2020 22 minutes ago, Spider said: Sounds a half decent idea, but not sure governments would be very popular fucking around with peoples' lives like that. "Sorry Iran, our social media injected advice on drinking alcohol backfired, but noted, we'll not tell anyone else to do this " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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