Escobarp Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Casino said: I had a driver at our place on friday Things may have moved on, but at that stage, his employer were telling him to take unpaid keave He has COPD I advised he point out that furloughing was supposed to protect those affected by the virus and they ought to furlough him Or, he rings in sick I think it’s just a case of applying common sense and your employer also not being a cunt and valuing you and treating you appropriately. some employers as we know don’t give a fuck Quote
Casino Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 Well, technically, you dont apply - in reality, i accept that will be the case, for at risk groups The employer looks to make a change to your terms and conds I accepted the variation Reading between the lines, his employer are busy and they want him in Quote
Escobarp Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 Just now, Casino said: Well, technically, you dont apply - in reality, i accept that will be the case, for at risk groups The employer looks to make a change to your terms and conds I accepted the variation Reading between the lines, his employer are busy and they want him in I meant apply common sense sorry Quote
Guest Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Escobarp said: How fucking dare you 🌈 Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Escobarp said: I think it’s just a case of applying common sense and your employer also not being a cunt and valuing you and treating you appropriately. some employers as we know don’t give a fuck Indeed. Motorworld treating staff like shit. Senior management sending messages saying sales targets not being met (hardly shop staff's fault under normal circumstances). No PPE, shops still open with no proper distancing measures, a d generally making life miserable for staff. This from a shop worker a few days ago. May have been changed since but I doubt it. Poor sod isolating herself when at home in case she's contracted it whilst at work. Then back to work. Quote
Guest Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 37 minutes ago, only1swanny said: 15th June I think the isolation period ends.. And that assumes they don't extend it.... Quote
Tombwfc Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 1 hour ago, 1969 said: Yes original figures hospital deaths only These figures include all deaths connected to cv The official tweet says 381 deaths in hospital since the last update. I don't think it's clear what accounts for the other 12. How we're reporting deaths is so different from everyone else, that the daily comparisons are pointless. There was a suggestion in yesterday's briefing that the lag in the data could be anything up to two weeks. Quote
Casino Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 If its a death at home, i dont see any way there wont be a lag You cant put CV on a death cert without a positive test or a post mortem And testing death folk is surely not a priority Quote
Guest Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, Tombwfc said: The official tweet says 381 deaths in hospital since the last update. I don't think it's clear what accounts for the other 12. How we're reporting deaths is so different from everyone else, that the daily comparisons are pointless. There was a suggestion in yesterday's briefing that the lag in the data could be anything up to two weeks. Every Monday looks good then Tuesday is awful. Something up there...has to be issues with reporting. Quote
Tombwfc Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 26 minutes ago, Casino said: If its a death at home, i dont see any way there wont be a lag You cant put CV on a death cert without a positive test or a post mortem And testing death folk is surely not a priority I think that's a bit of a red herring, as Vallance said yesterday that those deaths won't be significant in number even when the data is collected. Probably as you say, because they won't be tested as a rule. The huge increase today is all from hospitals, and even the government's chart from yesterday made mention of our figures not being up to date. It might be that no-ones are, but it makes the short-term tallying up between countries redundant. Quote
Guest Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: A death is a death, wherever that maybe. The UK already has around 7k deaths per day on average, and some of the CV deaths would have been included in those figures, especially the elderly and those with underlying health conditions, which we already know, if CV has contributed to their deaths it would be interesting to know how many would have died anyway through contracting any virus including influenza? I posted a link from ONS and an article from the Spectator, which was deemed disgusting by one of our forum experts Quote
Rudy Posted March 31, 2020 Author Posted March 31, 2020 Is it bollocks about potential power cuts ? Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Rudy’s Message said: Is it bollocks about potential power cuts ? Can't read that too well, it's gone dark. Quote
miamiwhite Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Rudy’s Message said: Is it bollocks about potential power cuts ? No mate.....cup replays will now be played on a Wednesday afternoon like the good old days Quote
Mannyroader Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: No mate.....cup replays will now be played on a Wednesday afternoon like the good old days Southampton at home in the FA Cup. Anyone on here wagged it from school? Not me. We were all on notice, caning from Paddy Roberts. Edited March 31, 2020 by Mannyroader Quote
Zico Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 2 hours ago, only1swanny said: 15th June I think the isolation period ends.. Could live with that It's my birthday, so shouldn't be a problem getting people out for it Quote
miamiwhite Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Mannyroader said: Southampton at home in the FA Cup. Anyone on here wagged it from school? Not me. We were all on notice, caning from Paddy Roberts. I was too young mate. Leigh White definitely went, probably moaning about the miners 😉 Quote
kent_white Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 We're literally trialling full face SCUBA diving masks as an option at work for patient's on CPAP (CPAP is like a noninvasive ventilation you can wear while you're conscious). I think it's a great idea if it works - just seems a comical idea. Quote
Tombwfc Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 I don't think it's disgusting, but it does seem like being a contrarian for the sake of it to ignore the masses of virologists, scientists etc. all saying different. What is it about the bloke writing in the Spectator's credentials that makes you believe his point of view, other than that it re-inforces a belief you already had? The consensus from the modelling seems to be pretty clear that doing nothing = NHS swamped = people dying left, right and centre from things they shouldn't have. Something which doesn't happen to anything like this extent with the flu. Quote
miamiwhite Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, kent_white said: We're literally trialling full face SCUBA diving masks as an option at work for patient's on CPAP (CPAP is like a noninvasive ventilation you can wear while you're conscious). I think it's a great idea if it works - just seems a comical idea. I'm wearing one on my head......that's a conical idea Quote
Rudy Posted March 31, 2020 Author Posted March 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, kent_white said: We're literally trialling full face SCUBA diving masks as an option at work for patient's on CPAP (CPAP is like a noninvasive ventilation you can wear while you're conscious). I think it's a great idea if it works - just seems a comical idea. Do you have to bring your own flippers? Quote
Guest Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, kent_white said: We're literally trialling full face SCUBA diving masks as an option at work for patient's on CPAP (CPAP is like a noninvasive ventilation you can wear while you're conscious). I think it's a great idea if it works - just seems a comical idea. Scuba mask or that one that Japanese wear for snorkelling? Quote
kent_white Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 Just now, boltondiver said: Scuba mask or that one that Japanese wear for snorkelling? Sorry I meant snorkel not SCUBA! 😁😁😁 Quote
Nowack Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr Grey said: A death is a death, wherever that maybe. The UK already has around 7k deaths per day on average, and some of the CV deaths would have been included in those figures, especially the elderly and those with underlying health conditions, which we already know, if CV has contributed to their deaths it would be interesting to know how many would have died anyway through contracting any virus including influenza? I thought it was around 1200 deaths a day on average. 7k seems a big figure. Quote
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