Slow news day? The real deal? End of the world? 
 

They’re saying it probably came from an animal, has Somebody been shagging monkeys again? 

It's just frustrating as it's really basic shit that could have been avoided so easily

Just now, jmjhb said:

It's just frustrating as it's really basic shit that could have been avoided so easily

So why has nobody around the world avoided this basic shit? Genuine question. 

2 minutes ago, jmjhb said:

It's just frustrating as it's really basic shit that could have been avoided so easily

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/coronavirus-south-koreas-success-in-controlling-disease-is-due-to-its-acceptance-of-surveillance-134068
 

South Korea do things we probably would not tolerate. The fuck up our lot have made are the ridiculous promises that we were be world beating. 

Just now, Ani said:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/coronavirus-south-koreas-success-in-controlling-disease-is-due-to-its-acceptance-of-surveillance-134068
 

South Korea do things we probably would not tolerate. The fuck up our lot have made are the ridiculous promises that we were be world beating. 

We will be the best in the world. World leading. 
 

Once we get the same app as everyone else when Apple come up with a fix and sell the app to everyone 😁. Simple really 

Does the German one not work then?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/coronavirus-contact-tracing-apps-launch-across-europe-amid-hopes-for-broad-adoption-11592319612

"The app, designed by the telecommunications giant Deutsche Telekom and the software company SAP, operates on a platform developed by Apple and Google. This approach, which is also used in Italy, better protects users’ data than some others by storing it on phones rather than on a government-controlled central server, according to EU privacy regulators.

The app on each phone generates an identifying code that connects via Bluetooth with other phones using the app. If two users stay within two meters of each other for longer than 15 minutes, their apps will save each other’s codes. If one of those users then tests positive for Covid-19, they can notify the system which would alert everyone who had been in their immediate proximity."

6 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

So why has nobody around the world avoided this basic shit? Genuine question. 

They haven't, but this was well-documented months ago so why wasn't this foreseen by the government? It's like none of them know how tech works

It doesn't need to be world-beating, just effective

 

Just now, jmjhb said:

They haven't, but this was well-documented months ago so why wasn't this foreseen by the government? It's like none of them know how tech works

It doesn't need to be world-beating, just effective

 

I agree.  But it doesn’t help when Australia are publicising theirs was a success. When in reality it wasn’t. Gives false hope. And if I’m a developer and I can persuade someone i have a solution if they pay me millions you can be sure my morals go out the window. I would have fleeced the public purse. 
 

if those on furlough can do it why can’t the developers do it 

3 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

Does the German one not work then?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/coronavirus-contact-tracing-apps-launch-across-europe-amid-hopes-for-broad-adoption-11592319612

"The app, designed by the telecommunications giant Deutsche Telekom and the software company SAP, operates on a platform developed by Apple and Google. This approach, which is also used in Italy, better protects users’ data than some others by storing it on phones rather than on a government-controlled central server, according to EU privacy regulators.

The app on each phone generates an identifying code that connects via Bluetooth with other phones using the app. If two users stay within two meters of each other for longer than 15 minutes, their apps will save each other’s codes. If one of those users then tests positive for Covid-19, they can notify the system which would alert everyone who had been in their immediate proximity."

I thought today us and the French would be announcing we were aligning with the Germans. 
 

Or Frogs and Krauts as we used to call them. 

5 minutes ago, Ani said:

I thought today us and the French would be announcing we were aligning with the Germans. 
 

Or Frogs and Krauts as we used to call them. 

Not been proven to work consistently yet has it? In its Infancy? Unless I’ve misread stuff earlier. Happy to be corrected as if it’s got a 100% success rate then we just need to join them as you say. 
 

two days old. Fingers crossed

Edited June 18, 20206 yr by Escobarp

3 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Not been proven to work consistently yet has it? In its Infancy? Unless I’ve misread stuff earlier. Happy to be corrected as if it’s got a 100% success rate then we just need to join them as you say. 
 

two days old. Fingers crossed

It was jus a feeling that ours and the French were not working. 

If anyone else has any experience of working with apple you will know they are hard fucking work. More secretive than the KGB them fuckers.

Peice on Outside Source just now, seems loads of countries have various issues with their track and trace apps, some glitches, some trust issues

Get the feeling when it does finally launch there won't be much uptake

All fine, but cut out the fucking bullshit

Im sick to the back teeth of it

4 hours ago, Escobarp said:

So Apple are the issue. The app works in its base form but Apple are restricting the use of Bluetooth linking when the app/phone is not active. 
 

ao Apple then benefit from having the cheif bargaining chip and will only relax it for their own apps. 
 

who knew  these sort of things happen in the big bad world. Very surprised and disappointed the government and the company developing it didn’t see being held to ransom on the horizon. You would have thought Apple would put there commerical interests slightly behind public health
 

But Hancock and Boris out 

They knew about the Apple Bluetooth issue weeks ago and choose to plough on regardless. 

Steve Parrish talking sense on QT. 

1 hour ago, mickbrown said:

They knew about the Apple Bluetooth issue weeks ago and choose to plough on regardless. 

It’s exhausting, these things are not new; do people just defend this sort of stuff just to be contrary? I hope so, because if they believe it then that’s really scary.

Drove passed my local this morning 

Full delivery being loaded into the cellar 

 

12 hours ago, Winchester White said:

If anyone else has any experience of working with apple you will know they are hard fucking work. More secretive than the KGB them fuckers.

Ditto. though they do give nice gifts.

8 hours ago, Not in Crawley said:

It’s exhausting, these things are not new; do people just defend this sort of stuff just to be contrary? I hope so, because if they believe it then that’s really scary.

ive genuinely tried to give folk the benefit of the doubt at each step, so when the potential fatal flaw was identified I hoped they'd come up with a workaround. I know app development somewhat and am sure there were devs promising they could sort it and deliver better than the apple google solution.

Thing is, if you do go your own way it needs to work. Clearly it didn't. So yes, pull the plug and go to the alternative, but someone somewhere has to take responsibility for the decision making because it's appearing to be seriously flawed.

if it was that tricky a development proposition they could've adopted a twin track approach and developed each app simultaneously, it's that critical to getting the economy up that the costs aren't really a factor in comparison. 

As it is, it feels like on this or on the timing of lockdown etc that there's an impulse to be radical and look for big wins. I'd sooner there was a much greater attention to small details and steady progress. I have no problem in seeing briefings conducted by boring, dull, competent people making no promises they can't back up.

 

Edited June 19, 20206 yr by ProfessorWoland

10 hours ago, mickbrown said:

They knew about the Apple Bluetooth issue weeks ago and choose to plough on regardless. 

Is there anything you aren’t expert in?

13 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Is there anything you aren’t expert in?

Is there no fuck up you won’t defend?

45 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Is there anything you aren’t expert in?

He doesn't say hes an expert

Hes just repeating what we all knew -  except bozo, Hancock and dildo (remind me of her credentials again) seemingly

I'm guessing he doesn't restrict his learning to chris green and conservative woman.

Edited June 19, 20206 yr by Casino

On 06/05/2020 at 16:37, mickbrown said:

Apparently doesn't work properly.

Relies on a shit load of Android users being nearby to stop iPhones bluetooth from switching off.

" iOS apps are forbidden from using Bluetooth for long after they are minimised. To keep iPhones registering contact events appears to require either the user to constantly remember to reopen and refresh the app, or stranger still, sufficient Android ‘herd immunity’ among app users, where a nearby user of a non-iPhone, if in range, nudges nearby iPhones to not fall asleep, and to keep listening out."

Here you go BD. 6th of fucking May. 
 

Absolute clowns. 
 

 

BOOMTASTIC

That was probably when Cummings was explaining why he was roaming around the country testing his eyesight so Boris didn’t know what to do. Another tenner for Mr Esco😂

Edited June 19, 20206 yr by Farrelli

8 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Here you go BD. 6th of fucking May. 
 

Absolute clowns. 
 

 

He'll still defend it, the government can do no wrong for BD