Coronavirus

[Tombwfc]

18 hours ago, royal white said:

If our numbers are right then I feel a lot of other countries are bull shitting to keep their numbers low,  if the countries that I think are bullshitting are right then I think we have massively fucked up with our numbers. 

 

The most reliable figures are the excess deaths. Not sure there's much evidence that countries are hiding deaths in general.

 

 

[Boby Brno]

11 fatalities today. 530 new cases.

[radcliffe white]

The good folk of Blackburn & darwen have been urged to play their part or they could face a local lockdown 

[leigh white]

1 hour ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

The good folk of Blackburn & darwen have been urged to play their part or they could face a local lockdown 

Going to be fun and games if they come into Bolton for a pint and all sign in with the same surname.

[peelyfeet]

14 minutes ago, leigh white said:

Going to be fun and games if they come into Bolton for a pint and all sign in with the same surname.

Hahaha. 20 blokes all called Darren Howarth 

[peelyfeet]

I went to school witha lad from Blackburn, called Michael Smith, and his older brother, Michael Smith.

[miamiwhite]

1 hour ago, leigh white said:

Going to be fun and games if they come into Bolton for a pint and all sign in with the same surname.

Majority of Blackburn folk are teetotal 

[MancWanderer]

Serious question

Why the fuck compare our stats with other countries? Why?

Its patently obvious that every single country measures in a different way. There is no international standard being adhered to. Absolutely pointless comparison

Whether we have a flawed system or not surely we should focus on our numbers alone? It’s the trend we should be looking at in our own country. Fuck everyone else. Let them crack on. If our number goes up we need to worry. If it goes down let’s consider what to do. So long as we maintain consistency in our own reporting then we can make our own judgements

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 minute ago, MancWanderer said:

Serious question

Why the fuck compare our stats with other countries? Why?

Its patently obvious that every single country measures in a different way. There is no international standard being adhered to. Absolutely pointless comparison

Whether we have a flawed system or not surely we should focus on our numbers alone? It’s the trend we should be looking at in our own country. Fuck everyone else. Let them crack on. If our number goes up we need to worry. If it goes down let’s consider what to do. So long as we maintain consistency in our own reporting then we can make our own judgements

Yep.

Loads of reasons for what's happened here, and they will come out in the wash eventually.

Purely drawing comparisons could be counterproductive.

[peelyfeet]

11 minutes ago, MancWanderer said:

Serious question

Why the fuck compare our stats with other countries? Why?

Its patently obvious that every single country measures in a different way. There is no international standard being adhered to. Absolutely pointless comparison

Whether we have a flawed system or not surely we should focus on our numbers alone? It’s the trend we should be looking at in our own country. Fuck everyone else. Let them crack on. If our number goes up we need to worry. If it goes down let’s consider what to do. So long as we maintain consistency in our own reporting then we can make our own judgements

We are probably measuring very accurately, us and some US states, Australia, probably Germany and S Korea too. 

Have to look at others to see what methods work best, so that we have collective learning.

I don't have an issue with our reporting, we are the best bean counters in the world, just slow at innovation and decision making along with the US, it's a side effect of having detailed and democratic policy making procedures 

Edited July 13, 2020 by peelyfeet

[royal white]

12 minutes ago, MancWanderer said:

Serious question

Why the fuck compare our stats with other countries? Why?

Its patently obvious that every single country measures in a different way. There is no international standard being adhered to. Absolutely pointless comparison

Whether we have a flawed system or not surely we should focus on our numbers alone? It’s the trend we should be looking at in our own country. Fuck everyone else. Let them crack on. If our number goes up we need to worry. If it goes down let’s consider what to do. So long as we maintain consistency in our own reporting then we can make our own judgements

This

[Escobarp]

16 minutes ago, MancWanderer said:

Serious question

Why the fuck compare our stats with other countries? Why?

Its patently obvious that every single country measures in a different way. There is no international standard being adhered to. Absolutely pointless comparison

Whether we have a flawed system or not surely we should focus on our numbers alone? It’s the trend we should be looking at in our own country. Fuck everyone else. Let them crack on. If our number goes up we need to worry. If it goes down let’s consider what to do. So long as we maintain consistency in our own reporting then we can make our own judgements

What a few have been saying for a while Mate but often drowned out by the usual suspects fixated on a blame culture. 

[peelyfeet]

Example - how long will it take before they tell us if we have to wear masks in shops or not? 

What is it that takes the govmt several days to make a statement, they aren't waiting on some results before they tell us, it's because of the processes they have in place IMO.

 

[Leyther_Matt]

5 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

Example - how long will it take before they tell us if we have to wear masks in shops or not? 

What is it that takes the govmt several days to make a statement, they aren't waiting on some results before they tell us, it's because of the processes they have in place IMO.

 

Same drill as everything else. Leak it to the press a couple of days beforehand to test the water. If it’s happening then just crack on. 

[Escobarp]

Was in the shop this morning before I headed out to a meeting. Mask was on as thems the rules So uncomfortable wouldn’t want to wear one for long at all. 
 

missus doing the shopping for the foreseeable 

[peelyfeet]

Just now, Leyther_Matt said:

Same drill as everything else. Leak it to the press a couple of days beforehand to test the water. If it’s happening then just crack on. 

 I think its because they've got to make sure everyone is on point, make sure the legislation is robust, make sure it's presented in a way that doesn't reduce popularity, make sure it doesn't piss off X industry or X lobby group. Whereas in China, the other extreme it's "you're fucking wearing masks everywhere tomorrow, or your uncle gets kneecapped"

[peelyfeet]

3 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Was in the shop this morning before I headed out to a meeting. Mask was on as thems the rules So uncomfortable wouldn’t want to wear one for long at all. 
 

missus doing the shopping for the foreseeable 

No,  wouldnt like to have it on for more than 15 mins at a time. 

[Escobarp]

Just now, peelyfeet said:

No,  wouldnt like to have it on for more than 15 mins at a time. 

At the most. Horrible. Fair play to those that wear them for their job  

[peelyfeet]

9 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

At the most. Horrible. Fair play to those that wear them for their job  

Would hate to be a sex dungeon gimp in these unprecedented times. Full rubber suit, gimp mask plus covid face covering. Having to sanitise master's bondage equipment. Nightmare

[Escobarp]

5 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

Would hate to be a sex dungeon gimp in these unprecedented times. Full rubber suit, gimp mask plus covid face covering. Having to sanitise master's bondage equipment. Nightmare

Where is cheese actually? He’s been very quiet 

[peelyfeet]

1 minute ago, Escobarp said:

Where is cheese actually? He’s been very quiet 

Spanking benches don't clean themselves

[MancWanderer]

40 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

We are probably measuring very accurately, us and some US states, Australia, probably Germany and S Korea too. 

Have to look at others to see what methods work best, so that we have collective learning.

I don't have an issue with our reporting, we are the best bean counters in the world, just slow at innovation and decision making along with the US, it's a side effect of having detailed and democratic policy making procedures 

Exactly!!! If a country’s rate is falling. How? Why? What can we learn? What do we need to do?

On 12/07/2020 at 00:14, mickbrown said:

Governed by fuckwits who really don’t give a shit who dies  

 

Then you’ve got those who go on Twitter to find stuff to post on here to try to politicise it. How have the above countries been measuring? How does it compare to the UK? Why are the 17 other countries at zero? What’s their reporting policy? Nah. Forget I asked. Copy and Paste attention seekers don’t do detail 

[Not in Crawley]

Been in London today for the staff rep meeting, no one has a mask on public transport. There is no way to police it so no one is doing it.

[deane koontz]

Would there be many complaining about having to wear masks in shops and such other than the tin foil lot? I don't get the non action here if it makes people less at risk of catching and spreading.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

Masks to be compulsory in shops in England from 24th July.