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Meanwhile in Ukraine


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17 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

Economic sanctions haven't had the desired impact.  Hurt the west in the pocket, but Russia battle on. 

Many would beg to differ.

https://ge.usembassy.gov/international-sanctions-are-working-russia-feels-economic-pressure/

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53 minutes ago, Cheese said:

I'd imagine they are to some extent, but also recall these "experts" stating that Russia would be economically crippled enough to withdraw by May. 

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26 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

I'd imagine they are to some extent, but also recall these "experts" stating that Russia would be economically crippled enough to withdraw by May. 

I don't recall anyone predicting that. 

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Sanctions inevitably hit both.

Russia getting much less in now though, so buying goods and arms from elsewhere becomes more difficult. 

Obviously the gas situation (amongst some others) affects many others, however the rapid changes throughout Europe will mitigate the loss of Russian gas. It will just take time.

Moreover, once weaned off it, then longer term the Russian economy suffers as its market has reduced.

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15 hours ago, Casino said:

Arent they still getting a billion a day in, despite sanctions?

probably, there will be no shortage of countries wanting to buy their oil/gas - I think Pakistan were talking about doing a deal with them last week.

The sanctions will work, but it'll take years to really start biting them, whilst people are still buying oil/gas.

 

Interestingly, we've got one of our suppliers over here at the minute, from mainland China, and he reckons that from the Chinese side, it very much looks like NATO is the aggressor and Russia is the good guy. He won't really talk about it much, but you can tell that he's very much "on the side" of the Russians  -  which goes to show how much people can be influenced by whatever media they have access to.

As an aside, when he travels back to China next week, he has to then stay in a Government sanctioned hotel for 2 weeks, and he'll be tested everyday for COVID. Once he leaves (provided he's clear) then he, and his family, have to stay housebound for a further week

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13 minutes ago, Spider said:

Erdogan seems to be doing a decent job in amongst all this.

Bound to have his own motives, like, but at least he's got stuff moving and is keeping some skin in the game:

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62965993

Remember what happened last time you trusted the words of a Far Right figurehead...

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Just now, Blondi said:

Wouldn't be surprised if the nutter Putin chooses full mobilization.

He’s delayed his speech so he can do it whilst Unky Joe gives his UN address tomorrow.

Because, you know, it’s all just a big pisstake to Vladdy the Baddy

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