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The reality is after the force of nature that was Big Sam left, we were poorly run by Gartside, things that Sam had set up at vast cost, in some cases, like his scouting network, sports science team and academy all atrophied behind the scenes. 

Maybe we always were poorly run by Gartside and Sam was just good at covering it up. 

After Sam we got in a host of inexperienced lower league managers were brought in with their own ideas with their own staff. First thing they did with 10's of millions in transfer kitty...bring in Championship players, players from newly relegated teams, players from regular bottom 6/7 teams like Birmingham, Hull, Porstmouth, and Villa. The outcome was inevitable.

We become a dumping ground for players, a Championship team in the Premier League. 

The fact we had future Premier League winner Marcus Alonso in the team in the Championship being kept out the team by out of position Sam Rickets and knackered Paul Robinson, it's enough to make you go mental. 

I always found it weird we got Sammy Lee and then Megson, then Owen Coyle, not a hint of top flight equivalent managerial experience. Like why Megson and not pick a random 2007 Premier League manager like Martin Jol or Juande Ramos. 

What was the plan? what did they think would happen? 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Zog1 said:

The reality is after the force of nature that was Big Sam left, we were poorly run by Gartside, things that Sam had set up at vast cost, in some cases, like his scouting network, sports science team and academy all atrophied behind the scenes. 

Maybe we always were poorly run by Gartside and Sam was just good at covering it up. 

After Sam we got in a host of inexperienced lower league managers were brought in with their own ideas with their own staff. First thing they did with 10's of millions in transfer kitty...bring in Championship players, players from newly relegated teams, players from regular bottom 6/7 teams like Birmingham, Hull, Porstmouth, and Villa. The outcome was inevitable.

We become a dumping ground for players, a Championship team in the Premier League. 

The fact we had future Premier League winner Marcus Alonso in the team in the Championship being kept out the team by out of position Sam Rickets and knackered Paul Robinson, it's enough to make you go mental. 

I always found it weird we got Sammy Lee and then Megson, then Owen Coyle, not a hint of top flight equivalent managerial experience. Like why Megson and not pick a random 2007 Premier League manager like Martin Jol or Juande Ramos. 

What was the plan? what did they think would happen? 

 

 

I think maybe enough time has passed now that you need to let this one go.

Posted
2 hours ago, Spider said:

I think maybe enough time has passed now that you need to let this one go.

I'm still traumatised by Stan Anderson.

Posted
7 hours ago, Zog1 said:

The reality is after the force of nature that was Big Sam left, we were poorly run by Gartside, things that Sam had set up at vast cost, in some cases, like his scouting network, sports science team and academy all atrophied behind the scenes. 

Maybe we always were poorly run by Gartside and Sam was just good at covering it up. 

After Sam we got in a host of inexperienced lower league managers were brought in with their own ideas with their own staff. First thing they did with 10's of millions in transfer kitty...bring in Championship players, players from newly relegated teams, players from regular bottom 6/7 teams like Birmingham, Hull, Porstmouth, and Villa. The outcome was inevitable.

We become a dumping ground for players, a Championship team in the Premier League. 

The fact we had future Premier League winner Marcus Alonso in the team in the Championship being kept out the team by out of position Sam Rickets and knackered Paul Robinson, it's enough to make you go mental. 

I always found it weird we got Sammy Lee and then Megson, then Owen Coyle, not a hint of top flight equivalent managerial experience. Like why Megson and not pick a random 2007 Premier League manager like Martin Jol or Juande Ramos. 

What was the plan? what did they think would happen? 

 

 

Alonso wasn't good for us. He didn't deserve to play over the two you mention. Him winning the Prem five years later is irrelevant 

Posted
21 minutes ago, wakey said:

I'm still traumatised by Stan Anderson.

Sacking the boss and appointing the assistant was the lazy way out for the Bolton board in 1980. They did it with Armfield/Greaves in 74 and it worked. They did it with Charlie Wright after John McGovern in 85, then with Rioch/Todd in 95 and Sam/Little Sam in 2007. 

It has not happened since and a little bit out of vogue generally nowadays I think. For us I guess you can say it worked twice in 74 and 95 but not the other times. Worked at Liverpool for years up to Souness.

Posted
1 hour ago, Kane57 said:

Alonso wasn't good for us. He didn't deserve to play over the two you mention. Him winning the Prem five years later is irrelevant 

He was very young & showed talent. But he was impatient to play and moved on & it took a couple of steps before it really came off. It was clear he had talent though, tbf.

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, wakey said:

I'm still traumatised by Stan Anderson.

Exactly the same here. He brought the nowhere near average, Dennis Peacock in goal.

Honestly, until Crellin, the worst player I ever saw in goal.

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Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere but the new bricks have been laid outside the main entrance. Very nice. In addition, you can collect the old bricks from outside the old ticket office windows. Just collected Dad’s. 👍

Posted
7 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere but the new bricks have been laid outside the main entrance. Very nice. In addition, you can collect the old bricks from outside the old ticket office windows. Just collected Dad’s. 👍

Need to get my dad’s. Think it was 99 from memory

Posted
9 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

There was a guy at the club who was very helpful. Told him the name I was looking for and he looked through the bricks with me. As it happened, I found it myself. Don’t know his name but he was everything I expect from this great club. 
Went to Lucianos to celebrate. 👍

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Great stuff T

Posted
2 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

There was a guy at the club who was very helpful. Told him the name I was looking for and he looked through the bricks with me. As it happened, I found it myself. Don’t know his name but he was everything I expect from this great club. 
Went to Lucianos to celebrate. 👍

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Being picky 

In Memory Of 

Should be the first line 

In any case 

Keep it and throw at a fan of the team he hated the most 

Posted
7 hours ago, Zico said:

Being picky 

In Memory Of 

Should be the first line 

In any case 

Keep it and throw at a fan of the team he hated the most 

I know. My sister paid for it and she says that’s how she wanted it. Once it was in the ground she didn’t want to make a fuss. I’ve noticed others are the same. 

Posted
11 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

There was a guy at the club who was very helpful. Told him the name I was looking for and he looked through the bricks with me. As it happened, I found it myself. Don’t know his name but he was everything I expect from this great club. 
Went to Lucianos to celebrate. 👍

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Lob it through a wiganers window pal 

Posted
2 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

I know. My sister paid for it and she says that’s how she wanted it. Once it was in the ground she didn’t want to make a fuss. I’ve noticed others are the same. 

Bit like Accrington Iron Bricks being called Nori on their first ever press.

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