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Bolton V Aston Villa League Cup

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36 minutes ago, radcliffe white said:

This was LC but we did play them FA drew at home hammered in replay think around 2010

Ah yeah on the Sunday when Steinson had Bale in his pocket.

Seriously dont remember the league cup 04 one😳

3 hours ago, Casino said:

faiir enough

 

open it up to any round and inc burnden

its a big LC crowd for us and the fact its so early makes it even more impressive

 

i remember at least one, prob 2 v forest in our dark days, 85?  where we got well dicked at burnden

sheff wed at reebok was a 'big game'

 

anyway, what im saying, 15k home fans for the LC is far from poor

When on TV as well. 

56 minutes ago, DazBob said:

 

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Regarding the first goal.  Not sure it was his fault, but ultimately, being a short-arse is a massive handicap for a goalkeeper.  

 

He is 6ft 4 . Wouldn’t say that’s short for a keeper 

12 minutes ago, Farnywhite said:

He is 6ft 4 . Wouldn’t say that’s short for a keeper 

I know that's what most websites say, but he can't be, surely? Williams is 6ft.

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7 minutes ago, Cheese said:

I know that's what most websites say, but he can't be, surely? Williams is 6ft.

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No way is he anywhere near 6’ 4”. Just look at him against Rico who is genuinely that height. 6 feet or just over at most.

5 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said:

No way is he anywhere near 6’ 4”. Just look at him against Rico who is genuinely that height. 6 feet or just over at most.

Santos is 6'6".

33 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said:

No way is he anywhere near 6’ 4”. Just look at him against Rico who is genuinely that height. 6 feet or just over at most.

MJ Williams is just under 6ft 2 and looks a bit taller, baptiste is 5ft 11. According to wiki. He ain't 6ft 4 

47 minutes ago, Cheese said:

I know that's what most websites say, but he can't be, surely? Williams is 6ft.

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I have a Barrow fan who reckons hes 5ft 10, 5ft 11. Dont think hes 6ft 4!

 

52 minutes ago, Cheese said:

I know that's what most websites say, but he can't be, surely? Williams is 6ft.

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Going of that I would say he is about 6 foot 1 . They probably make up all there heights don’t think santos is 6ft 6 as well probably about 6ft 4 at best 

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31 minutes ago, Marc505 said:

 

Immense 

1 hour ago, Marc505 said:

 

Neil the Cunt hates this & orders customers to remain seated at all times.                  

A few comments on how much fitter they were at the end, we ran out of steam etc…I thought this close season was the hardest yet to get our team as fit as possible and a squad to rotate to give players a rest ..does this follow that the more skill you’ve got I e villa players the fitter you must be , and were fitter than us ?. Also those  boring villa fans …grown men singing empty seats mi lud ,empty seats..wankers . Yippe yi  o holtenders in the sky.what a load of boring feckin brummies 

I'm not convinced by the fitness argument so much these days. Clubs have access to sports scientists, dieticians etc.

Of course some of the most fit athletes may progress to the top clubs, but I don't see the gap like it used to be.

Once the goals go in against you, it's natural to feel deflated, whereas your opponents will get an adrenaline buzz and be boosted physically. 

Better players make the ball work harder too, crisper, quicker passing.

Yes, they will have been fresher, not necessarily fitter in terms of how far they ran

1 hour ago, lofthouse said:

A few comments on how much fitter they were at the end, we ran out of steam etc…I thought this close season was the hardest yet to get our team as fit as possible and a squad to rotate to give players a rest ..does this follow that the more skill you’ve got I e villa players the fitter you must be , and were fitter than us ?. Also those  boring villa fans …grown men singing empty seats mi lud ,empty seats..wankers . Yippe yi  o holtenders in the sky.what a load of boring feckin brummies 

I genuinely couldn't understand a word they said other than Villa in that dozy fucking accent

4 hours ago, Farnywhite said:

He is 6ft 4 . Wouldn’t say that’s short for a keeper 

Don't believe everything you read on Wikipedia. 

He's never 6ft 4. Not even close.

Not saying he's a world beater by any means but height and 3rd goal to one side for a substitute third division keeper he kept the score down massively last night, unless I'm having some false memories.

Which is very much possible tonight.

Having seen the third, he was poor

But still a solid 7 on the night

It just seems the thing to do these days to write players off

1 hour ago, lofthouse said:

A few comments on how much fitter they were at the end, we ran out of steam etc…I thought this close season was the hardest yet to get our team as fit as possible and a squad to rotate to give players a rest ..does this follow that the more skill you’ve got I e villa players the fitter you must be , and were fitter than us ?

Yes, Premier Leagure players are fitter and faster and more talented than League 1 players. There are a multitude of reasons for that, and I think most of them are pretty obvious. If you think League 1 players should be as fit and talented as Premier League players, you need to sit down and have a think.

19 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Yes, Premier Leagure players are fitter and faster and more talented than League 1 players. There are a multitude of reasons for that, and I think most of them are pretty obvious. If you think League 1 players should be as fit and talented as Premier League players, you need to sit down and have a think.

I think his post was about fitness only rather than fitness and talent.

He acknowledged their players would be better footballers than ours.

20 minutes ago, Casino said:

Having seen the third, he was poor

But still a solid 7 on the night

It just seems the thing to do these days to write players off

I think there's a LG1 or LG2 player in there somewhere but he needs some easy game time for confidence not playing against prem opposition and getting 4 twatted past him. 

But I suspect Evatt maybe given him assurances when Traf resigned that he's getting the cup games. 

Who knows. 

I think the fitness element is more about being conditioned to play the game at that pace for 90 minutes. It is generally accepted that players need a period of playing to get to 'full match fitness' it is logical then to say that getting used to playing at the higher pace does not just happen. Add in better players use the ball better it just tips the balance. 
Evatt talks about our style tiring out the opposition, they did that to us. 

4 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I think his post was about fitness only rather than fitness and talent.

He acknowledged their players would be better footballers than ours.

They'll also be a lot fitter than ours, regardless of talent. That's why they're playing in the Premier League and our players are playing in League 1.

9 minutes ago, Cheese said:

They'll also be a lot fitter than ours, regardless of talent. That's why they're playing in the Premier League and our players are playing in League 1.

Yes, I understand that. The very best tend to be physical specimens as well.

But he wasn't wondering why our players weren't as talented as theirs.

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