Jol_BWFC Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 25 minutes ago, anthonyj said: Latest from Nixon. Clutching at anything at moment me. Ray of hope? At last, our saviour has broken cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Shania is on the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonyj Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Wondered where Stelios had gone 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, tomski said: Lots of hoops to jump through before that and I suspect planning permission wouldn’t be a given? Thats why I ask Planning permission to turn a hotel and derelict football stadium into car parks and commercial/retail space like what is all around it currently wouldn’t be a given? Whoever wants this and whatever their strategy will have been fully researched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantra Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 23 minutes ago, Casino said: owning the land the hotel is on could be somebodys game and if the club is liquidated and somebody wants the land, the land the hotel is on could be worth much more than now? Grim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damocles Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 21 minutes ago, Carlos said: Tens of thousands of people play the game without a contract. You get injured then you don't play until you are fit. You probably aren't going to get Lionel Messi but it's got to be better than putting a load of 16 year old kids in the line of fire. Those people referenced don’t rely on it for their income though? People have said about non-contract or pay-as-you-play but getting injured on these deals could stop you earning for goodness knows how long and without access to professional rehabilitation etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damocles Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 I do not think anybody is in this to liquidate the club and sell the land. I suspect Kamani’s will get the hotel and may provide some funding support to FV in buying the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 20 minutes ago, Carlos said: Tens of thousands of people play the game without a contract. You get injured then you don't play until you are fit. You probably aren't going to get Lionel Messi but it's got to be better than putting a load of 16 year old kids in the line of fire. Players can only play for 2 clubs a season, and can only be registered for 3. Once you're registered by a club, you're classed as an asset, and can demand a transfer fee. I would imagine the quality of the type of players who; 1/ Are free to register/sign, 2/ Don't want any wages, but can make it to training. 3/ Are repared to sit out the majority of the season (which could be the case if they've already played for a team, and then aren't deemed good enough to play when new players are registered after the takeover goes through, or if BWFC don't want to release them for any other reason) Isn't very high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantra Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Fwiw Nixon has always denied liquidation as being an option and has rubbished claims that someone would want it just to get the land. Whether you believe him or not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted August 19, 2019 Moderators Share Posted August 19, 2019 Damocles, I've thought for a bit you may have a brother who was once prolific on here.... Anyway, FV can't run the football without the hotel So what's in it for them to accept funding from Kamanis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: Players can only play for 2 clubs a season, and can only be registered for 3. Once you're registered by a club, you're classed as an asset, and can demand a transfer fee. I would imagine the quality of the type of players who; 1/ Are free to register/sign, 2/ Don't want any wages, but can make it to training. 3/ Are repared to sit out the majority of the season (which could be the case if they've already played for a team, and then aren't deemed good enough to play when new players are registered after the takeover goes through, or if BWFC don't want to release them for any other reason) Isn't very high. Your right, they won’t be League 1, probably Confrence North or Unibond But are we better losing a game and getting 0 points or cancelling it and get -3points (using Boro as an example) Lets say a takeover is another 5 games away. That means we could either be on -11 points or -26 points by the one it’s finally complete, I know what I’d prefer! If it means we have half a dozen semi pros on the books for 2 months earning a couple of hundred quid a game then so be it. It makes us more attractive for the takeover to complete and more attractive for fans to buy season tickets when they finally go on sale We have to have hope, missing games is just going to drive more nails in the coffin Edited August 19, 2019 by birch-chorley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, Damocles said: I do not think anybody is in this to liquidate the club and sell the land. I suspect Kamani’s will get the hotel and may provide some funding support to FV in buying the club. I suggested similar yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damocles Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, Casino said: Damocles, I've thought for a bit you may have a brother who was once prolific on here.... Anyway, FV can't run the football without the hotel So what's in it for them to accept funding from Kamanis Because deep down in all of this must lie an exit situation for them, this presumably is/was PL promotion, that can’t have changed. The hotel for me was the only way of them being able to afford to chase the above, if the Kamani’s offered funding then both parties could have a 5-7 year plan that is geared toward an exit upon PL promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Alf Hartigan Posted August 19, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted August 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, Casino said: Damocles, I've thought for a bit you may have a brother who was once prolific on here.... Thought the same since he /she first appeared, there was a slight overlap and conversation between the two though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfessorWoland Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 19 minutes ago, Damocles said: I do not think anybody is in this to liquidate the club and sell the land. I suspect Kamani’s will get the hotel and may provide some funding support to FV in buying the club. I can't see FV having anything to do with the group that's torpedoed their model for running the club. If they've made their bid conditional on getting the hotel they'll likely walk away if Boohoo and co have outbid them. Then it's down to BH and Bassini. Ken really did a number on BWFC when he split the club and hotel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted August 19, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted August 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Damocles said: Because deep down in all of this must lie an exit situation for them, this presumably is/was PL promotion, that can’t have changed. The hotel for me was the only way of them being able to afford to chase the above, if the Kamani’s offered funding then both parties could have a 5-7 year plan that is geared toward an exit upon PL promotion. The premier league is so far beyond us now that it may as well not exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: Your right, it won’t be League 1 But are we better losing a game and getting 0 points or cancelling it and get -3points (using Boro as an example) Lets day a takeover is another 5 games away. That means we could either be on -11 points when it’s finally done or -26 points, I know what I’d prefer. If it means we have half a dozen semi pros on the books for 2 months earning a couple of hundred quid a game then so be it. It makes us more attractive for the takeover to complete and more attractive for fans to buy season tickets when they finally go on sale We have to have hope, missing games is just going to drive more nails in the coffin I agree, I don't think there will be many semi pro's willing to risk potentially sitting out the majority of the season though. If they've already played for someone, then sign for us and the takeover goes through sometime in Sept, they might only get 3 or 4 matches between now and next August. If they haven't already played for a non league team already, then how low in quality/fitness are they going to be. I suppose there may be some ex academy boys who were released from league clubs in July, and haven't signed for a non league club yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadfrog1 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Fuck it cba anymore wake me up when it's concluded either way. I mean seriously, the deals been just around the corner for 4 months plus, someone take some responsibility. Just feels like it's all over boys the vultures are out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: I suggested similar yesterday. Although you also suggested yesterday that they would buy the club, flatten the buildings and sell the land for profit. If you make enough predictions, one of them may well be correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 53 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Planning permission to turn a hotel and derelict football stadium into car parks and commercial/retail space like what is all around it currently wouldn’t be a given? Whoever wants this and whatever their strategy will have been fully researched. I thought the land had to be used for sports or something. I was also told it would be hard to get permission. That’s why I have asked the question? Also if the ground was flattened why is it a given you’d get the land around the hotel. The hotel isn’t a separate building is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anewman Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 We are fucked, relegation a certainty so just void all games and we go again next season. By then football vultures may of emptied their money box and scraped enough to purchase, if not fuck off and let someone else buy us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Escobarp said: Planning permission to turn a hotel and derelict football stadium into car parks and commercial/retail space like what is all around it currently wouldn’t be a given? Whoever wants this and whatever their strategy will have been fully researched. A planning committee might try it on in an attempt to look good by refusing it but anybody looking to redevelop it and prepared to play the longer game will fancy their chances at appeal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 16 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said: Although you also suggested yesterday that they would buy the club, flatten the buildings and sell the land for profit. If you make enough predictions, one of them may well be correct. I didn’t say would I said could, so it wasn’t a prediction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted August 19, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted August 19, 2019 36 minutes ago, Damocles said: Because deep down in all of this must lie an exit situation for them, this presumably is/was PL promotion, that can’t have changed. The hotel for me was the only way of them being able to afford to chase the above, if the Kamani’s offered funding then both parties could have a 5-7 year plan that is geared toward an exit upon PL promotion. You've got to be kidding? From where we are now, Premier League promotion in 5-7 years would cost hundreds of millions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 21 minutes ago, tomski said: I thought the land had to be used for sports or something. I was also told it would be hard to get permission. That’s why I have asked the question? Also if the ground was flattened why is it a given you’d get the land around the hotel. The hotel isn’t a separate building is it? Would need to look into who owns what at land registry etc and I’m not sure we have anyone on here with the inclination to do so mate tbh. You may be right but let’s play out a doomsday scenario and we go pop. Someone wants to develop the whole area do you think planners are going to turn it down and say build something sport related on it? I very much doubt it but you could be right. I like you am only surmising what the situation may be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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