Site Supporter Spider Posted September 30, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 30, 2020 I know what would settle this Lets have a referendum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted September 30, 2020 Moderators Share Posted September 30, 2020 47 minutes ago, stevieb said: For context most of the the graphs only seemed to show data starting from July (end of peak 1). So the high points visible on the graph were low in the overall peak. It made it look like we were hurtling up to previous highs when we are not. Would have been less concern from the population if we were shown the full YTD data but I suppose that's the intention. I thought they included the previous peak as well, as you could see infections were back to what they were near enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeep Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 50 minutes ago, fatolive said: Millennials are those born between 1981 and 1996 . just saying, as I presumed it was people born in or around the new millennium, but apparently not, teens these days are generation z ( I think ) Every day's a skool day. Would never have thought that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted September 30, 2020 Moderators Share Posted September 30, 2020 52 minutes ago, fatolive said: Millennials are those born between 1981 and 1996 . just saying, as I presumed it was people born in or around the new millennium, but apparently not, teens these days are generation z ( I think ) There are 39 year old millennials? That seems far too old Fair enough Fuck the Gen Zers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 15 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: I thought they included the previous peak as well, as you could see infections were back to what they were near enough? https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/slides-to-accompany-coronavirus-press-conference-30-september-2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted September 30, 2020 Moderators Share Posted September 30, 2020 I've long since given up on johnson and his shower of shit but his response to the last questioner earlier was nothing short of shit The geordie asked him 3 questions, johnson answered one that wasn't asked and fucked off sharpish Media were equally shit in not asking for a justication of boltons pub lockdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 30, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Casino said: I've long since given up on johnson and his shower of shit but his response to the last questioner earlier was nothing short of shit The geordie asked him 3 questions, johnson answered one that wasn't asked and fucked off sharpish Media were equally shit in not asking for a justication of boltons pub lockdown Numbers in bolton hospital perhaps justification? We're not alone with our restrictions neither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted September 30, 2020 Moderators Share Posted September 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/slides-to-accompany-coronavirus-press-conference-30-september-2020 Right So what I was referring to was ICU/HDU admission rate and hospitalisations by age group Which shows old admissions also on the rise And the slides prior to that show theres more infections in the young Regardless of what happened prior to July 1st, that's where we are at, and it's on the up Hence these restrictions So them students can stop fucking moaning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted September 30, 2020 Moderators Share Posted September 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Numbers in bolton hospital perhaps justification? We're not alone with our restrictions neither. I thought bolton was alone in having pubs shut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 How many days is it now that infection rates doubling? does the higher rate of tests not play a part in the speed that infection rates doubling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: Right So what I was referring to was ICU/HDU admission rate and hospitalisations by age group Which shows old admissions also on the rise And the slides prior to that show theres more infections in the young Regardless of what happened prior to July 1st, that's where we are at, and it's on the up Hence these restrictions So them students can stop fucking moaning Actual Infections were at a peak of 90 odd K per day in early April, they got there in a matter of a few weeks, and they dropped off a cliff when we stayed indoors. Actual infections are thought to be at 19k per day now. We are only 2 and bit infection doubling periods away from the same scenario as Spring. Infection doubling will definitely occur unless we get the R rate below 1. If it takes 2 and a bit weeks, we are in the shit again with 1k deaths a day a few weeks later. It looks like, and I doubt, it will be anywhere near as fast as that, but it will get there eventually unless we reduce interactions from now. The longer we wait, the more severe and longer in duration the restrictions will be. The govmt will end up doing everything they can that has least impact on the economy i think. Edited September 30, 2020 by peelyfeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted September 30, 2020 Moderators Share Posted September 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: Actual Infections were at a peak of 90 odd K per day in early April, they got there in a matter of a few weeks, and they dropped off a cliff when we stayed indoors. Actual infections are thought to be at 19k per day now. We are only 2 and bit infection doubling periods away from the same scenario as Spring. Infection doubling will definitely occur unless we get the R rate below 1. If it takes 2 and a bit weeks, we are in the shit again with 1k deaths a day a few weeks later. It looks like, and I doubt, it will be anywhere near as fast as that, but it will get there eventually unless we reduce interactions from now. Aye, infections aren't as bad now, neither are restrictions But I still don't get the clamour to crack on and let it rip through society Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little whitt Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Escobarp said: And the rayguns who won’t do it. JSL shoot them in the street Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, ZicoKelly said: Aye, infections aren't as bad now, neither are restrictions But I still don't get the clamour to crack on and let it rip through society It's short-sightedness and a misunderstanding of how things work I think. Some folk don't grasp how exponential growth works, and don't understand that infections today translates to a bank of deaths 3-4 weeks later. We miss recording over 50% of infections at the moment because theres loads of asymptomatic, and loads of folk who don't get tested at the correct time for a host of reasons, one being very mild symptoms. 7k cases is thought to be 19k infections at the moment. IFR is about 0.7% 0.7% of 19k is 133 Around 133 folk recorded as new cases today, will die in a few weeks. If the rate doesn't go below 1 the numbers grow every day. Even if we slow it to 1.1 per week , which we are way over at the moment, the numbers still grow. 1.1 means that 19k becomes 20,900 becomes 22,900 becomes 25,289, becomes 27,817, which means 195 deaths a day in a month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted September 30, 2020 Moderators Share Posted September 30, 2020 Three of my thoughts, feel free to rip to bits Death rate won't be so bad this time as lots of the most vulnerable died first time around and this time we will protect care homes better Loads more have had it than we think If you cant/won't wear a mask, stay out of shops. Shop online Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 50 minutes ago, Casino said: I thought bolton was alone in having pubs shut? It is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Casino said: Three of my thoughts, feel free to rip to bits Death rate won't be so bad this time as lots of the most vulnerable died first time around and this time we will protect care homes better Loads more have had it than we think If you cant/won't wear a mask, stay out of shops. Shop online Agree, and we have better treatments and knowledge of what works Agree, and also it is likely that more are naturally immune Agree; poor form not to weak masks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted September 30, 2020 Moderators Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, boltondiver said: It is Cheers So not unreasonable to expect the question to be asked and answered Has your mate Smith not had a response yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted September 30, 2020 Moderators Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, boltondiver said: Agree, and we have better treatments and knowledge of what works Agree, and also it is likely that more are naturally immune Agree; poor form not to weak masks oh god. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Casino said: Cheers So not unreasonable to expect the question to be asked and answered Has your mate Smith not had a response yet? Smith? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnestTurnip Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Purely anecdotal this but spoke to my lad before who started uni this time. He's self isolating because he couldn't smell at weekend and because folk he was dicking about with in the first week have tested positive. He seems fine but a good percentage of the others are not well at all so maybe it is hitting younger folk as well now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Casino said: Three of my thoughts, feel free to rip to bits Death rate won't be so bad this time as lots of the most vulnerable died first time around and this time we will protect care homes better Loads more have had it than we think If you cant/won't wear a mask, stay out of shops. Shop online Death rates won't be as high per day because of loads of reasons. But we've got a much longer period of shit weather and being indoors to get through than last time, so unless we get a handle on it, it could be 5 shit months instead of 3. Depends what you mean by loads more have had it. There's no proof from any country that its a high %. India is supposedly the highest - 20 odd %. It is thought that 70% is needed for herd immunity, so if both those assumptions are correct, thats another 40 million yet to catch it, in a worst case scenario. 40 million is 280k more deaths. Edited September 30, 2020 by peelyfeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted September 30, 2020 Moderators Share Posted September 30, 2020 29 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Smith? Sorry, green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 hour ago, ZicoKelly said: Right So what I was referring to was ICU/HDU admission rate and hospitalisations by age group Which shows old admissions also on the rise And the slides prior to that show theres more infections in the young Regardless of what happened prior to July 1st, that's where we are at, and it's on the up Hence these restrictions So them students can stop fucking moaning Youd be moaning if youd just spent £9k for a zoom course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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