peelyfeet Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 If indoor humidity is proven to be the most important factor for transmission in the community, which it looks like it could be, we are miles off. There's 60 million folk who haven't had it yet and we've got 5 months of shit weather to get through. Open the windows and put your coat on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 20, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted August 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Boby Brno said: What he actually said. “So it is that household transmission that is the core root of passing on this virus in this country. The amount of people who have caught it in workplaces is relatively low, from the evidence we’ve got.” Of course you can catch it anywhere. Thanks, a bit of accuracy doesn't go amiss. 3 hours ago, tyldesley_white said: will seeing nobody's at work ( or very few people) the evidence is not accurate, if everyone goes back to work the core root of passing the virus will be in the workplace, so everyone home. Workplaces are supposed to be covid secure. Of course the more that go back the more cases will arise, but if the guidelines are followed then these should be minimised. Unfortunately, too many already tossing it off. I would presume that across the pond, you have more working from home than before, like here. Definitely going to continue for a long time, and I reckon, like shopping habits many will have changed work patterns for good. Could have some environmental benefits too, which is a bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 48 minutes ago, Casino said: Suspected? Does that mean people are being admitted with covid symptoms without checks or they are in patients who might have caught it on the wards? Can't be 19 admitted to Bolton, surely, out of 50 nationally? 7 day rolling average for England is 49 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Thanks, a bit of accuracy doesn't go amiss. Workplaces are supposed to be covid secure. Of course the more that go back the more cases will arise, but if the guidelines are followed then these should be minimised. Unfortunately, too many already tossing it off. I would presume that across the pond, you have more working from home than before, like here. Definitely going to continue for a long time, and I reckon, like shopping habits many will have changed work patterns for good. Could have some environmental benefits too, which is a bonus. Not allowed in the office at all, all badges have been deactivated ... so you cant get in even if you wanted too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 20, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted August 20, 2020 29 minutes ago, tyldesley_white said: Not allowed in the office at all, all badges have been deactivated ... so you cant get in even if you wanted too Wow. Is that standard for all businesses, or is yours just a bit stricter than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Wow. Is that standard for all businesses, or is yours just a bit stricter than others. My business provides ip phone extensions for medium sized office based businesses. Most are still at home. Quite a few are closing sites, making homeworkers permanent. Insurance, travel, PR, gambling, gaming, local govmt, even hospices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 20, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted August 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: My business provides ip phone extensions for medium sized office based businesses. Most are still at home. Quite a few are closing sites, making homeworkers permanent. Insurance, travel, PR, gambling, gaming, local govmt, even hospices. Aye. Wife (local government) will probably be wfh from now on. Still has to do site visits, with occasional office visit, but admin etc can be done more productively at home. They were just about to do an office refurbishment with an emphasis on hot desking and reduced space. Covid kiboshed that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 20, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted August 20, 2020 Anyone got news on now? Training sniffer dogs to detect covid. Need volunteers to help with trial. Quality idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 21 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Wow. Is that standard for all businesses, or is yours just a bit stricter than others. We’re allowed in if we choose although I’m home based anyway. But we have a colour coding system for certain departments etc to manage the number of folk in. We’ve 2000 people (I think) in our office building When full and at moment there is about 300 in on average with rest still at home. But nobody being made to go in it’s personal choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 23 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Wow. Is that standard for all businesses, or is yours just a bit stricter than others. I cant tell you, but we have a 39 floor tower block in downtown Houston, they are talking about reducing that by at least 1/2 , cant see me working 5 days a week there ever again, may be 2 or 3 day a weeks, but thats as all got to come out yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Stood in a queue for an hour yesterday surround by people without masks until the last 3 minutes that were inside and we all put masks on In a similar vein stood in a fast food gaff for 30 mins all wearing masks till we moved 5 yards away to the seating bit and all took them off. Fuckin pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 20, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted August 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, gonzo said: Stood in a queue for an hour yesterday surround by people without masks until the last 3 minutes that were inside and we all put masks on In a similar vein stood in a fast food gaff for 30 mins all wearing masks till we moved 5 yards away to the seating bit and all took them off. Fuckin pathetic. First bit makes sense, so long as folk were distanced outside. Why did you wait in a fast food place for 30 minutes though? You're a patient chap, bollocks to that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted August 20, 2020 Moderators Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, peelyfeet said: There's 60 million folk who haven't had it yet Im very far from convinced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, gonzo said: Stood in a queue for an hour yesterday surround by people without masks until the last 3 minutes that were inside and we all put masks on In a similar vein stood in a fast food gaff for 30 mins all wearing masks till we moved 5 yards away to the seating bit and all took them off. Fuckin pathetic. Haha. What do you want them to do? Queueing up outside, if you're distanced will reduce the chance of infection because the wind will blow some droplets away, light aerosols will travel up with hot air and there's less surfaces. Inside restaurants the masks are off for economic reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Casino said: Im very far from convinced There might be more who've been infected but haven't got any antibodies left, just T cells, and those with T cells from similar viruses. But some think thats bollocks. https://www.forbes.com/sites/leahrosenbaum/2020/08/19/why-t-cell-immunity-wont-end-coronavirus-pandemic/ Edited August 20, 2020 by peelyfeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted August 20, 2020 Moderators Share Posted August 20, 2020 (edited) tbh, youre much more informed than me, but its all if buts and maybes My guess is that theres way more than 10 million had it Though i only know of 6 my wife works with, 2 of my daughters mates and sweep off here Ive really tried to catch the fucker but dunno if i was successful Edited August 20, 2020 by Casino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: Haha. What do you want them to do? Queueing up outside, if you're distanced will reduce the chance of infection because the wind will blow some droplets away, light aerosols will travel up with hot air and there's less surfaces. Inside restaurants the masks are off for economic reasons. It’s all a load of bollocks. Theres no fucker at that theme park yesterday with corona. Theres no fucker anywhere with it. I know one single person that’s had it and he lives in fucking Biggleswade. I’ve hundreds of customers and hundreds of sites I travel to across the north west daily. I’ve not broken stride throughout it all and I’ve not encountered one single person that’s had it. I’ve not worn a mask, I’ve handled cash and carried on as normal thoughout. It’s bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Casino said: Suspected? Does that mean people are being admitted with covid symptoms without checks or they are in patients who might have caught it on the wards? People are being admitted with Covid symptoms and were awaiting results. Far from over this. Wish it was. I'm sick of it dominating my every waking hour! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 20, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted August 20, 2020 You don't know who has it necessarily. Could be asymptomatic. Likewise, I handle cash frequently. I use sanitiser regularly though, and perhaps you're shoving your hands in warm soapy water from time to time. No guarantees either way, but I'm convinced being outside all the time makes such a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombwfc Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 22 minutes ago, gonzo said: It’s all a load of bollocks. Theres no fucker at that theme park yesterday with corona. Theres no fucker anywhere with it. I know one single person that’s had it and he lives in fucking Biggleswade. I’ve hundreds of customers and hundreds of sites I travel to across the north west daily. I’ve not broken stride throughout it all and I’ve not encountered one single person that’s had it. I’ve not worn a mask, I’ve handled cash and carried on as normal thoughout. It’s bullshit. What's bullshit? The entire idea that there is a virus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 (edited) 45 minutes ago, gonzo said: It’s all a load of bollocks. Theres no fucker at that theme park yesterday with corona. Theres no fucker anywhere with it. I know one single person that’s had it and he lives in fucking Biggleswade. I’ve hundreds of customers and hundreds of sites I travel to across the north west daily. I’ve not broken stride throughout it all and I’ve not encountered one single person that’s had it. I’ve not worn a mask, I’ve handled cash and carried on as normal thoughout. It’s bullshit. Haha, mate, you need to put it into perspective. They reckon about 10% of the population have had it. Of that 10%, 9.5% haven't been tested either because they didnt realise they had it, or tests weren't available. That leaves 0.5%, one in 200 who know they've had it, a high proportion of which are very old, already in hospital and in care homes. So if you aren't meeting loads of old fogies on your travels, your chances of meeting someone who knows they've been positive is 1 in several hundred. Edited August 20, 2020 by peelyfeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: Haha, mate, you need to put it into perspective. They reckon about 10% of the population have had it. Of that 10%, 9.5% haven't been tested either because they didnt realise they had it, or tests weren't available. That leaves 0.5%, one in 200 who know they've had it, a high proportion of which are very old, already in hospital and in care homes. So if you aren't meeting loads of old fogies on your travels, your chances of meeting someone who knows they've been positive is 1 in a few hundred. Give me all the facts and figures you want. There is no threat to the common man. There has been or ever will be. We should never have locked down. Its bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, gonzo said: Give me all the facts and figures you want. There is no threat to the common man. There has been or ever will be. We should never have locked down. Its bollocks. Add to that it’s likely 70% have some immunity to Covid despite never having it and I’m of the same opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, gonzo said: Give me all the facts and figures you want. There is no threat to the common man. There has been or ever will be. We should never have locked down. Its bollocks. Why do you think all the governments of the world, bar about 3 don't think its bollocks? Communists, democracies, Muslim states, dictatorships, some sworn enemies. If it was bullshit wouldn't a country somewhere be trying to take advantage over a rival, end all restrictions tomorrow? They're getting advice from myriad intelligent, experienced, experts. They're telling them to be cautious. Release slowly. They think we are having a lull in the UK because of the climate, weeks of continuing caution, improved tracing, summer holidays and restrictions. They dont think we're near to immunity, because there's no reliable proof of it. Some areas of the world, with high death rates like parts of NY have had 25% seropositive tests. There's parts of UK below 3%, what is going to stop at least 22% in those areas getting infected in future? Edited August 20, 2020 by peelyfeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 52 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Add to that it’s likely 70% have some immunity to Covid despite never having it and I’m of the same opinion. Where's the immunity come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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