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By ‘better business model’ what you actually mean is more money that they’re willing to pump into a loss making L1 football club? There will be no stone left unturned from Sharon with regards to the business model, we’ll be exploring every avenue of how we are more sustainable as a club - it benefits both her and the club to do so. She’s clearly not going to chuck all of her eggs (cash) into our basket, she’s not daft enough to do so. Most businesses in a market that actually makes financial sense would be borrowing money from banks and other lenders in order to invest and improve the performance, loss making football clubs don’t have that option so she’s instead found willing investors with the acceptance that she dilutes her shareholding. I don’t see the problem in that? Clearly we need either to produce kids that we can sell on for a tidy profit (easier said than done and needs material investment in the academy in the first place) or we need the whole ‘moneyball’ buy potential low and hope we sell high to start kicking in for the club to stand on its own two feet, but it’s not something you can just assume in a business model because it’s unknown to an extent (you could make an argument that it’s something you can improve, I’d agree with that). I’d put a lot of money on the club now having a 3-5 year forecast / business model which has varying eventualities and supporting financial options for each. The idea that the ‘Swiss guys’ (aren’t they Nick Luckock’s brother?) would have a better model by chucking more cash at it just puts us back at square one. Bigger losses, more reliant on our owner to pump in cash every year and therefore more likely to go bump and drop down the leagues to start it all again (ring any bells?).

Love it😃 I could see him taking the parcel out, putting it back, taking it out, putting it back, taking it out, putting it back - then clodding it over the fence.

@Whitesince63 in post of the day 👏

Nobody on here knows anything about values, costs or anything else so why don’t we just leave it to management to sort it? They certainly seem to be doing a pretty good job to me so I’m happy to leave it at that and just watch the football. 🙂

it isn't false for the purposes of this discussion thats how many tickets have been sold

It’s doesn’t mean you’re wrong, however, from all available evidence you can see there is a plan, the ground, infrastructure and squad are all in much better shape than when FV arrived. If you’ve something negative to say, back it up with hard facts.

People do realise don’t they, that this isn’t a mid-week bland, night, home game with little riding on it? It’s a game where 83 year old grandads and young kids, in fact nearly all season ticket holders plus 6k others who have BOUGHT tickets ARE going to turn up on a 3pm Bank Holiday Monday?

especially when they currently occupy highly desirable beachside real estate

Well, if it's true he needs to fckg unfall-out with him. Jeez, he's the manager, he has to stop being a prima-donna and get on with things irrespective. He's found some very good players, but he's fallen out with a fair number too.

What life will be like in 3,026 years. Will it be good or bad? It’ll be 5050

Jumped before he was pushed - no way Benton would have got through the allegations - 4k a month to lobby on behalf of gambling investors and to hand over sensitive information, funnnily enough it was a breach of parlimentary standards 😁Also wonder how this sits alongsides Benton's Christian faith. Another one who was a school teacher and basically got really fucking greedy. Its only over a 3k majority, its going to be another bloody nose for Sunak, and bare in mind this is the most by-elections we've had for decades. I think the Conservatives have actually gone beyond implosion now. Hope they call the election for October and get it all done and over with before Christmas.

The thing that gave me renewed hope was that we didn’t play 😂 This has been the cycle for most of the season.

The thing that has given me a renewed sense of optimism is the fact that previous games in hand were generally difficult and so were never likely to equal 3 points per game in hand - our game in hand on Derby now is Shrewsbury at home, which if we’re being completely honest is as close to a banker as you’re ever going to get. Realistically (and accepting we could very well get 1 or 0 points) we should now only be 1 point behind Derby with 6 other games to play. In those 6 we’ve both got 3 relatively easy games and 3 that appear tougher and so a 1 point swing could very easily happen. Add in that they have an older squad that has form in running out of steam and are piling up with important injuries / bans and I have some confidence back that we can do it. Bookies have us pretty much equal with them as well.

One minute folk are happy we have owners who are trying to make us sustainable and live within our means the next this model isn't good enough and clearly don't have a pot to piss in. Can tell its international week

Not worth the paper it's written on. Unless we are all going to chip in if it ever goes up for sale.

To be fair Masi, I do see your point in terms of it looking like we’re working through every source of funding, which in some cases could look worrying (and certainly would have done under the old ownership). When you take each in turn though I think they all make sense, and again this is against the backdrop that the alternative is Sharon’s own cash which she quite rightly just won’t do: Gov’t - pay us back £[5]m or we’ll accept 8% of your business instead. It valued us at about £60m from memory, which is mental (and shows how uncommercial our government is). I don’t expect the original plan was to have the gov’t as shareholders but when someone offers you at 2 or 3 times the true value of something then you’d be crazy to turn it down. Fan bond - normal borrowing routes are closed, and even if you could find someone willing to lend us £4-5m then they’d be charging 15-20% interest due to the risk. The bond is a way to borrow money, which can be invested into the club to improve it (as all businesses do) when more conventional routes aren’t available. It’s also a way to reduce the cost of that debt by playing on supporters’ goodwill. Again, it makes financial sense to do so and supporters are happy because they’re getting more than they would if the cash was in the bank (albeit more risk) and helping the club. Swiss investors - mentioned it before but if you’re happy to dilute your own shareholding then why not accept outside investment if it’s on terms you’re happy with? Other points - naming rights. Finding a fan who has an emotional attachment is probably your most lucrative deal worldwide. No matter how big a company is, the market value of sponsoring a league 1 stadium is exactly that, market rate. If you have a fan that can afford market rate, but is also happy to pump more money into the club because of the emotional aspect, then you’re probably going to get more than if you got Coca Cola or Amazon to sponsor it. No issue with you having a different view on the ownership by the way, nobody should have to agree just because the majority do and it’s actually good to have a level of scepticism and scrutiny to keep everyone honest. I’m just pointing out a few areas from a strictly financial perspective which I don’t see why they would do it any other way.

grim, special shoes

Seven figure bid mate, let’s not undersell him. 😉

its not often im lost for words, but bravo well done speechless

Dan is absolutely fucking rubbish Out for months after missing a penalty. Says it all. Ged rid in the summer, especially if we go up.

🤭🤭🤭🤭 go on Joe

This seems legit. Interesting numerology about Kate's video saying she has cancer.... Announced 3/22 with date numerology of 96 3×2×2×2×2×4= 96 Queen = 96 same age as Queen died, she made the announcement 80 weeks and 2 days after the Queen died the day of the year was the 82nd 44th anniversary of the Georgia guide stones going up, be not a "cancer" of the earth was one of the points on the guide stones, cancer =44 like murder, kill and r.i.p. cnn first to report "huge shock" huge shock= 44 Announced 10 weeks 3 days after her 42nd birthday, jesuits, six hundred sixty six, the Vatican and dragon all =103 (beast/dragon reigned for 42months) 😅✌️🙏

Xotica in Walkden

You’re right about the full effects. I got Covid right at the beginning and ended up in hospital. Since then, I’ve been diagnosed with Long Covid and can’t walk around a supermarket without nearly collapsing. It’s shit. Not been able to work but some people think I’m taking the piss. There’s thousands like me but people died so we are the lucky ones. I hope nothing like that never happens again but it probably will.

Fuckin ell there would be some late parcel deliveries. He'd spend 10 minutes outside your house fucking about until he finally posted it.

For future information, Venus supermarket/restaurant appears to do some good stuff. Going to go for a sit down job at some point.