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  1. @Cheese i have to say this to you, this is a very hot topic which some people won’t put their neck on the line , you will have people who for whatever reason will disagree with the knee, or not understand the condemning of the boo, and you know what that’s fine, it’s a minority and they leave themselves open to interpretation with their opinions. As a black man who works in football I know I can come across very opinionated on the subject and I get people are probably sick of me defending the knee, and outside looking in I know there are people on here thinking blah blah blah yawn yawn change the record Rudy, but in all honesty I don’t care, it feels a little lonely sometimes fighting a battle which sometimes feels on your own. I get frustrated even got to a point recently where I’ve not wanted to post or even go to a game. I know I’m not on my own and I know I’m not the minority but I honestly can’t salute you and a few others( @DazBob @Casino ) , on here enough for speaking sense, and speaking up. That’s what keeps me on here that’s what keeps me going to games. Felt weird having to explain to my kid sister what the monkey emojis mean, why people have a problem with skin colour, it’s 2020 ffs Some of your posts on this topic have made me proud to be a Black Wanderers supporter. “Woke” “virtue signalling” or any other of that bollocks, that is just a way of people trying to shut people up on a topic they either agree with or are sick of hearing about. You’re alright by me, it would be my pleasure to buy you a beer. And for what it’s worth coming off Social media, ignoring it, get on with football, this is what got said to basketballer Lebron James in America a few years ago. A news anchor on Fox News told him to shut up and dribble, because apparently when a issue strikes you and you’re a highly paid sportsmen you’re supposed to just get on with your job and ignore any form of abuse like you’re a sportsmen first and human being second. And to the people who are Tired of hearing about it, good, it ain’t going away, we’re tired of dealing with it.
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  2. right, my Ipswich story first off, I absolutely gurantee 100% swear on what's left of my folks lives that this is true, ask my brothers, or mates, if you ever meet them in the aftermath of the barry knight debacle, we're all licking our wounds on the bwfc rivals bit as was the norm them days, ipswich fans came on giving it the large, dirty northern c�nts, got what you deserved etc i took it personally so go for a mooch on their section loads of them on there "i'm a lifelong fan me, can't get tickets for wembley, gutted, beg beg beg" so I gets this idea I sign up a fake hotmail and rivals account called "portman_dave" go on there and say I'm a lifelong fan too, got 4 tickets but mate has dropped out, 2 going spare, I want them to go to REAL fans, no JCLs, so email me telling me why you think you should have them hour later i login to hotmail and i have loads of mails, loads spend my dinner chuckling to miself as I read how they met bobby robson on their 5th birthdy, pictures with terry butcher as a kid, you name it, they'd done it one bellend tries telling me he's that hardcore he went to Grimsby away on a Wednesday night with about 200 other hardy souls, his email account is @hull.ac.uk - clearly at Hull uni, clearly not that hardcore then one guy mails me this proper sob story - in the past 12 months his wife has left him, took the kids, lost his job, stuggling to make ends meet, couldn't get to the games that season so missed out on vouchers blah blah blah and leaves me his mobile number 07980 whatever so I have this other idea I mail him back and tell him he can have them for free, i'm quite affluent, his story touched me, I'll call you later with details I then mail hull uni lad and say "grimsby away, wow, that's commitement, they're yours mate if you want them, call me later on 07980 whatever" end of work I log back in, have mails from them both telling me i'm a right bastard I am and how could I do that to a proper football fans so I mail them both back saying "now you know how it feels to get shafted you cunts, come on you whites" had a massive wank right after, it felt good
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  3. Congratulations on winning the virtue-signalling award for today. I'm sure you feel such pride in your heart now having stood on the mountain top and bellowed out to the world about your purety. I would imagine everybody on here would be appalled about Elias Kachunga or any other person being racially abused whether by some moron on social media or in any other setting. Doesn't mean we all set out each morning to zealously prove our non-racist attitudes by hectoring and lecturing others at every opportunity and jumping on every bandwagon going. You prove you're not a racist by not saying and doing racist things in your everyday life. Being unsupportive of taking the knee does not mean someone is racist.... except of course in the simple minds of the vindictively woke, who are always on the lookout to massage their own vanity by making grand public gestures as to their untouchable virtue. As well of course as seeking to make out that the whole population is irredeemably racist apart from the chosen few in their sainted glory.
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  4. I think yesterday was a needed reality check for people. However no one should lose sight of how far we have come in last 18 months or so. From being on the brink of going out of existence we are showing we can compete in a league we just got promoted to, we have players who clearly what to be here and play for the club. A manager who wants to play attacking football and maybe most importantly owners who 'get it' and are constantly raising the bar for the club. I know people picking faults with certain players want the club to do well and that it is just how they express their support. But let's be honest this is the most exciting time to be a Bolton fan for a very long time. It will be a roller coaster but just enjoy the ride it is a million times better than it looked like not that long ago. There is pride back in the club let's celebrate that every week rather than worrying about the little niggles that will always be there
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  5. Rather than having an argument between ourselves how about someone try and reach out to powers that be at our club, I’m sure someone knows people at the club and get a message to Kachunga that he is a wanderer and we love him, and we all stand behind him and all our players regardless creed,colour or any other category.
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  6. Haha incredible how this is not a straight forward condemning of racial abuse. Sad stuff. Hope it isn’t a wanderers fan
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  7. Is there actually any need for that response?
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  8. Morning all. They seem to like starting a new thread at every opportunity over on Tractor Boys ways so this may end up being a little bit disjointed but I'll try my best. I've had to go through 7(!) pages worth of threads from the past 24 hours PRE-MATCH (some posts about THAT game too) POST
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  9. Really not interested in a reply but for those who don’t support the knee taking, who feel it’s ok to boo, feel it’s ok to ignore the gesture think of this. Imagine signing for a club, fans are excited to see you play, you upsticks with your family, you’re excited to play, you train hard, you work your way into the team, because of the current situation there’s the issue of taking the knee, now imagine all your teammates, staff and gaffer support this. You put on the shirt, walk out and the crowd roars. As a show of solidarity to players who have or could suffer racism, you take the knee, and you hear one of your own fans boo. Doesn’t matter the reason but try and imagine that feeling what that would feel like, the mental effect that would have on you, the thoughts that would go through your head Imagine going online and forget the abuse but people online typing I’m sick of all this anti racism being rammed down my throat, yawn, just get on with football etc Could you imagine how that would make a new player to our wonderful football club would feel, all because their skin is a different colour. Ive had racist abuse when I’ve played at a low level, I’ve had it when I’ve been a wanderers fan from opposition, I’ve had it from fans when I’ve worked for football clubs. All those times stick with you, imprinted in your mind for a long long time, I can still see the Stoke fan now, and the Chelsea fan now. BWFC is a community club, I feel proud to be a lifelong supporter , I have met some incredible people off here and at games who I consider mates and not one of them would even consider my skin colour as any kind of issue, but some posts on here lately have left this incredibly sour taste in my mouth, it sticks with you, whether they’re racist, ignorant or just stubborn and stuck in their views it’s made me feel anxious about going to the game tomorrow which is utterly utterly insane. Now if you feel as though it’s being rammed down your throat, or just want players to get on with the game because you’re bored of it Imagine how you would feel if you were me. I keep getting sucked into these threads even when I say I won’t because it’s an issue that effects me but this is the last I’ll say on it (I hope 😁)
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  10. BWFC owner Michael James has donated £1000. Thanks to Stejay for sorting this ❤️
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  11. It’s absolute vindication for the efforts of FV, all you boys who’ve stuck at it with season tickets in the dark times and shoved the hard miles in fully expecting the inevitable tanking. A special day for the club and the town today to see the place rocking and no far off packed. Let hope we get the 3 points i genuinely think Sharon might shed a tear today when she sees and hears it.
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  12. I dislike it, despite the context and although I've used it myself. One of those words that belongs in the past. Call me woke if you will.
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  13. Been today, 550 whites supporting their team, absolute brilliant support, 5 fucking 2, somewhere near MK on the train, cracking away day. Top songs, Dapo and Kachunga All the way through, half-time under the stands, all way through the game, we were fucking top, super top, super brilliant. UTW
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  14. When the racist abuse stops (online or offline), it will stop getting brought up, and there'll be no need to take the knee - or any other action deemed appropriate to draw attention to the problem. It might not seem a particularly pressing issue to most of us on here because we've never been subjected to it - and we don't have to worry about our children being subjected to it - but it's an uncomfortable reality that some of our fellow citizens/fans/friends have to face on a daily basis. A considerable minority in our society are ignorant racist fuckwits, and that minority has been getting more considerable and more vocal recently - whether you blame it on social media or politics or whatever. It simply needs stamping out. If you think 'oh, here we go again' over a discussion on an internet forum that you voluntarily visit and can leave whenever you want, imagine thinking 'here we go again' every time you wake up in the morning.
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  15. Just 80 quid short of 3k now, great effort.
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  16. I was in my car listening to it on the radio when the players took the knee and it sounded really loud. My immediate thought was I wonder if the backward fuckers in this country who boo it listened to that and thought good on them. Imagine siding with those backward, racist cunts.
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  17. Vehement anti Marxists those Hungarians.
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  18. I've just had an email back from Cambridge to say they have booked me a parking space directly off Newmarket Road at the front of the stadium
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  19. They’re in at around £160m I think now ncluding £20m last season. Selling Armstrong might keep it down to only needing a further £10m this season EDIT just checked, it’s only £140m. Ouch
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  20. Ted Undies at his best "Well, I mentioned Poirot. Who wrote about him? Yes, that's right Agatha Christie. So you said Morecambe as they played at Christie park. Good answer. But who was another famous Morecambe? Eric. And name another famous footballer sharing a name with his on-stage partner? Dennis Wise of course. And who did he play for - well it was Chelsea, and who is another famous Chelsea. Well, Chelsea Clinton - and where did she get her Masters degree at - Oxford. Yes, the answer was Oxford, not Morecambe. Bad luck Tony and Beryl from Swadlingcote...here's your Dusty Bin miniature, here's what you could have won"
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  21. Thats family bonding pal. None off this trips to the zoo bullshit. If your not being thrown out of a football stadium and threatened with arrest as a family youre playing at it. We got thrown out of a pub earlier for giving my lad a WKD too. They were threatening all sorts unless we told them where we got our tickets from. My eldest got a life lesson on not grassing your mates up. Our resident donkey botherer was safe as houses.
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  22. Important to add a bit of balance on this one I think And I say that coming from a similar self-centred outlook as most on here, in that as a professional spectator Sport it’s not really high on my agenda. However from a professional outlook (teacher and coach of girls football teams and advocate of the game through the girls in football partnership) and as a father (like others on here) of a daughter who enjoys playing football, the tv exposure can help grow the game. She likes watching women’s football and is starting to get to know some of the players who can act as good role models. If we are interested in the future generations of our daughters/granddaughters choosing sport, choosing football and choosing healthy lifestyles then I don’t see a problem with the exposure it’s getting. There’s loads of sports channels now with a whole host of programmes, sports and variations, it’s easy to chose not to watch it if you don’t want to.
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  23. Doyle is FAR from a "weak link". He does so much work off the ball, I'm amazed he can still run off the pitch when he gets subbed. He contributes massively to the way we play.
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  24. Ah, ffs, I can’t be arsed reading the last 13 pages till morning. What A Fucking Day
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  25. Love this fella, he’s come up the hard way, stepped down 3 divisions and moved up North to get game time, not your average footballer, intelligent, articulate, seems a top fella and going to be hell of a footballer.
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  26. How nice of Dapo to keep his numbers down last season just to allow us to be the ones sign him. Him & Sheehan are just different calibre to the shit we've seen past few years. Real quality in front of goal on top of all the chances we've been creating due to the repetitive patterns of play we've developed from growing together is just great to see. Everybody can see how much these lads care & never let their heads drop no matter the situation on the pitch which is mainly down to Evatt as they'll just keep playing OUR game until we get our rewards. Doyler was fucking superb today, looks so much sharper & just look at the way he continuously brought the ball down under pressure to lay it off to the runners even though he gets a bit of shit for that part of his game. You know it's a mad fucking game when big RICO is on the right flank putting Becks type crosses into his centre back partner to rub salt in the wounds. Over the moon! Get revenge on all the teams who fucking battered us when we was in the shit! Slightly concerned about our fullbacks letting wingers hit the byline and put very dangerous balls in across the face of goal but we dealt better second half with that. COYWM IESWA
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  27. This, this, this....it's the strategy of Taking the Knee that's flawed, and all because they latched on to BLM at the start and now in a cul-de-sac. Why do the manager, chairman, chairman of the EFL need to get involved with a single comment from some lowlife. It's giving it oxygen in a totally disproportionate way. Why not big up the huge strides made in this area over the years and just ridicule that individual for how out of kilter they are with society when balanced with several thousands of people at the match on Monday fully supporting the team and players, this would be a far a better message than OTT umbrage. And this was the issue after the Euros, the numbers of racist Posts were extremely low -when compared to the global viewing public - yet if you watched the news channels it was like a racist pandemic, which it clearly isn't in this country. The Rashford mural another example of a total overreaction. Just read a report Kane had the highest volume of abusive messages at the end of the group stages so not even a race thing. Is it less abusive if race not involved?? Taking the knee is divisive the longer it goes on regardless of its original intentions, especially if there is no actual end point stated. And if that is meant to be the total eradication of all racist comments online then it will be a long wait given global non-verified access to social media. And in the meantime its dangerously portraying a society that is fundamentally racist, when clearly it's not.
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  28. I'm not, but that's exactly what you're doing regarding our players taking the knee. Do you really think they're all lying, and that 'taking the knee' is something more sinister than the anti-racism campaign they say it is? Are Ian Evatt and Sharon Brittan party to some big conspiracy disguised as an anti-racism campaign?
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  29. You’ve dished out more abuse on here than anyone. Not seen any racist abuse but abuse it is. BWFC are asking the social media platforms to do more to weed out the abuse, racial, sexist, homophobic etc. etc. Anonymous accounts allow people to say whatever they want without retribution. Hate won’t win.
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  30. It’s a good point, 16 from 18, walking it.
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  31. "He's not my favourite actor of all time by the way.....oh no....my favourite actor of all time is Mr Sidney Poitier."
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  32. Who gives a shite what the dirty Munich cunt thinks
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  33. I thought Bellingham was shit
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  34. If you boo your own players for taking the knee after they've told you explicitly, in no uncertain terms, it's an anti-racism gesture, you're either thick or racist. It really is as simple as that. Unless you can shed some light on the matter and explain how/why they're all lying?
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  35. If you are standing near to me and boo my team before kick off then watch out
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  36. If you boo, I wouldn’t argue against anyone that called you a racist.
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  37. You want some, old man? Go and fuck some ladyboys.
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  38. What on Earth has the premiership got to do with us? I couldn’t give a toss where Ronaldo plays his football next, I won’t be watching it
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  39. Quelle surprise!
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  40. I get people being fucked about us losing, but some of the shot on here at our own players is really pathetic.
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  41. Took both kids with me today for the first time. I've took the lad a few times, but daughter's never been interested before. Ticket office were ace letting me move my season ticket so we could all sit together at no extra charge. They both want one now. Chuffed to fuck. 🙂 This is how you breed new fans.
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  42. I'd say that his decision is Justified even if Turf Moor is Ancient.
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  43. Warm words on Friday night football towards Derby County from Neville. Don’t remember him being sympathetic to us when we were in the shit. Grade one twat that Neville.
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  44. Quite the opposite so far. Been stopped a couple of times by Ipswich fans, they've all been complimentary. Hoarse and on the beers now!
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  45. Dont post much but I'm gutted to read this, just to echo what others have said really, I've been on here nearly 20 years and met so many sound people, its made me really feel part of something, those friendships have enhanced my life never mind going to the match. I've lost count of the number of times someone on here has been down on their luck and people have rushed in to offer support, or the money raised for charity as well. I'll be forever grateful to Happy for the friendships I've made through here, I'm someone he's only met fleetingly yet he's made a big difference to my life.. as someone else said that is some legacy
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  46. The abuse Kachunga has recieved is a perfect example of why players continue to take the knee. By accusing them of doing it for any other reason than 'anti-racism', you are either calling them all liars, or deflecting because the message is hitting uncomfortably close to home.
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  47. You click on a thread about today's games .... and even here the wokeists are out signalling their virtue and lecturing the masses with their purity and self appointed superiority. England play today. I hope we give a few their debuts and build our resilience in the ranks behind this impressive team of ours that reached the final of a major tournament. Can the wokes please taken their ego-trip and superiority complex on to a politics thread, Twitter or the Guardian letters page?
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  48. The sad thing about Bury is their fans & their blinkered attitude to us. I'd have no view of them otherwise, just another small club stifled by proximity to big ones, plus Sky's belief that football started with the Premier League and stops, at best, half way down the Championship. They went out of business for a fraction of what the Bury born, father an employee Neville brothers chucked at Salford. If they can't be arsed about them why should we ? But I did. They had 100 years of history they had something worth saving ... but sympathising with them simply led to their fans telling us to f'cough. So I fckd off. Bollox to 'em. That phoenix will never fly. My dislike of clubs was always Stretford Untied & nothing else. However, Liverpool have joined them. I fckg despise them and their twatting fans. Otherwise it's largely down to the little clubs who affect a rivalry with us ... which, I guess would be similar to us with the above two showers of shite in their fan's view. But Wigan, Salford & Tranmere are simply despicable clubs followed by despicable bastard fans. Add Morecambe & their 270 fans to that btw after last season. Oh, & whatever club Joey Barton is ruinibg at any one moment . I added to this recently when I saw no-mark clubs with no history stick the boot in as we damn nearly went under. Doncaster, Peterborough, Lincoln simply saw us biting the dust as one less chance for relegation for them. That taught me. Bollox to the rest of them & when those jumped up little scrotes of clubs start to sink after a couple of years overspending I won't even waste a thought on them. Oddly Preston & Everton & even that red lot from Trafford gave us a helping hand when in our darkest moments. That's noteworthy. So, yes. I hate today's opponents whoever, wherever & whenever that match is, all those in our division. I hate the above mentioned wankers & every referee since Uriah Rennie packed it in
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