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I think yesterday was a needed reality check for people. However no one should lose sight of how far we have come in last 18 months or so. From being on the brink of going out of existence we are showing we can compete in a league we just got promoted to, we have players who clearly what to be here and play for the club. A manager who wants to play attacking football and maybe most importantly owners who 'get it' and are constantly raising the bar for the club. I know people picking faults with certain players want the club to do well and that it is just how they express their support. But let's be honest this is the most exciting time to be a Bolton fan for a very long time. It will be a roller coaster but just enjoy the ride it is a million times better than it looked like not that long ago. There is pride back in the club let's celebrate that every week rather than worrying about the little niggles that will always be there

Is there actually any need for that response?

It’s absolute vindication for the efforts of FV, all you boys who’ve stuck at it with season tickets in the dark times and shoved the hard miles in fully expecting the inevitable tanking. A special day for the club and the town today to see the place rocking and no far off packed. Let hope we get the 3 points i genuinely think Sharon might shed a tear today when she sees and hears it.

They’re in at around £160m I think now ncluding £20m last season. Selling Armstrong might keep it down to only needing a further £10m this season EDIT just checked, it’s only £140m. Ouch

Ted Undies at his best "Well, I mentioned Poirot. Who wrote about him? Yes, that's right Agatha Christie. So you said Morecambe as they played at Christie park. Good answer. But who was another famous Morecambe? Eric. And name another famous footballer sharing a name with his on-stage partner? Dennis Wise of course. And who did he play for - well it was Chelsea, and who is another famous Chelsea. Well, Chelsea Clinton - and where did she get her Masters degree at - Oxford. Yes, the answer was Oxford, not Morecambe. Bad luck Tony and Beryl from Swadlingcote...here's your Dusty Bin miniature, here's what you could have won"

Thats family bonding pal. None off this trips to the zoo bullshit. If your not being thrown out of a football stadium and threatened with arrest as a family youre playing at it. We got thrown out of a pub earlier for giving my lad a WKD too. They were threatening all sorts unless we told them where we got our tickets from. My eldest got a life lesson on not grassing your mates up. Our resident donkey botherer was safe as houses.

Important to add a bit of balance on this one I think And I say that coming from a similar self-centred outlook as most on here, in that as a professional spectator Sport it’s not really high on my agenda. However from a professional outlook (teacher and coach of girls football teams and advocate of the game through the girls in football partnership) and as a father (like others on here) of a daughter who enjoys playing football, the tv exposure can help grow the game. She likes watching women’s football and is starting to get to know some of the players who can act as good role models. If we are interested in the future generations of our daughters/granddaughters choosing sport, choosing football and choosing healthy lifestyles then I don’t see a problem with the exposure it’s getting. There’s loads of sports channels now with a whole host of programmes, sports and variations, it’s easy to chose not to watch it if you don’t want to.

I'd say that his decision is Justified even if Turf Moor is Ancient.

Lots of over reaction to our loss on Twitter. This is the summary in The Football League Paper. Spot on in my view. Two divisions separated these clubs last season. That gap is down to just two places and one point as Rotherham deployed previous Championship nous to do a number on the Trotters. It was a lesson individually and collectively for Wanderers. They conceded from two setplays and missed a host of chances at the other end. Chief threat Dapo Afolayan was increasingly marked and fouled out of the game. But there was plenty to suggest Bolton can bounce back.

A lot of fair assessments to be fair. My 2 penn’eth worth.. We were simply outthought and outfought be a very Wiley and structured side & their manager. Looking at the football aspect alone we (again) played some lovely stuff. Not many teams in this league can live it with. However we need 5 or 6 good moves to create 1 or 2 decent chances and even then our conversion rate is very poor. Last week was an exception to the rule where every chance went in. Yesterday, Burton and Cambridge demonstrated the issues. Doyle. Works hard but I agree with a few who say he’s hit his level. Works hard (tries) to run channels but does need 2 or 3 chances to score 1 which were just not creating for him. His link up play with Dapo and Isgrove was great yesterday but he’s 30 yards away from goal. He’s not quick or strong enough at this level. CB’s are better quick and stronger and his touch to get it out of his feet is poor. There’s been a few instances over the last few games where it’s been played in but he’s tried cutting back or the balls stuck under his feet. It should be one touch and bang. back 4 are all comfortable and we play through the thirds really well but it always breaks down in the final one. You get the impression they all went to score the perfect goal and make another pass rather than get a shot off. Warne outhought Evatt yesterday. First half they pressed so high on our goal kicks we couldn’t build out. The gap between their front 4 and back 4 must’ve been 30 yards. So we had to go long. As such without any support from deep it broke down. 2nd half after they pinched 2 goals they sat off and we found it hard (as Evatt referenced) to break down 2 banks in front of us. Baka is a big miss. Physical presence with pace that can unsettle a back 4 and give us another option. I applaud IE and the teams insistence on continuing to try and play no matter what the minute but he needs to come up with other plans particularly as other teams will see how Rotherham set out against us and try to mirror it. we’ll win more then we lose playing the way we do and it’s far more enjoyable watching us try and do it this way then previous regimes. We just got done by a more street wise and knowledgable unit yesterday

People need to have a bit more patience. I understand as fans we want success yesterday but after 8 games last season we were near the bottom of division 4 while they were in division 2. We'll improve gradually in every window we have Evatt & Markham in tandem. This season we'll be mid table imo but I reckon we'll challenge next season. Enjoy the ride and let's hope for a decent FA cup run to keep us all happy

We've a couple of new signings unavailable, and our first choice left back out too. Plan b is a bit hampered at the moment.

Warm words on Friday night football towards Derby County from Neville. Don’t remember him being sympathetic to us when we were in the shit. Grade one twat that Neville.

Fuck them and fuck Forest This has been a long time coming Go and join Sheff Weds in the PL wannabes graveyard

We don’t have 20000 Chinese tourists at the game taking photos; red scum

Always makes me chuckle thinking about being at Blackpool and seeing the full Watson @barryk32 family being marched out laughing and waving

Nobody was better than Andy Walker !

Only cos nat didn't play for arsenal

And keep in mind that just 7 months (almost to the day) ago we were 2-0 down at Mansfield with 10 minutes to go and facing being 20th in L2. After surprisingly winning that, having the run we did and a good start to the season, we're 37 places higher than that. OK, we can still be critical of performances, but also need to count blessings...

We’re going soft. We’ve been through it, if others have the same fate, tough shit

This is why I dislike the Massives more than Utd its their bellend fanboys round here ”Fuck off back under your rock and go and support your tinpot club” ”It’s really difficult to get to a midweek game” (ground is 2 miles away) ”Loads of people are on holiday” (yesterday’s empty seats) Just fuck off.

Really?? I’m presuming you mean live? Regardless, whether you’ve watched Doyle live or on Ifollow, coming to the conclusion that he is just plain “poor” is astoundingly narrow minded. Really strange post

I know fucking Piddle. just what you need. Doyle is crap Evatt is over rated. Jeezus we have some fans with not much intelligence. I will leave it at that. We are a work in progress. these men have been promoted the last two seasons they have been in this league. Only relegated from Championship by 2 points and a canny manner. Get some perspective FFS

It was very BWFC to lose today, Rotherham played it like a cup final which is a tribute to how far we have come over the last 18 months, fully expect us to bounce back and finish above them come the end of season.

After what we went through I have found a more empathetic side of myself. I don't think I would be as sympathetic if I hadn't gone through that actuall rollercoaster myself. I don't want to go through my feelings of what seemed like our impending doom. But it was, outside of family & friends, the most shittest time of my life. DCFC will be ok. They will take whatever comes their way on the chin and bum around getting things straight again. On the whole rival football fans "can" be pretty decent.

Good indication of where we are at the moment. We did ok - but Rotherham just looked more savvy. Shame that goal didn't stand as 2-1 would have made it interesting. They will be there or there about come the end of the season. We make more noise when there's just the usual suspects there!

Fucking bellend of a ref booking sheehan for that quick freekick, especially after letting a couple of late tackles off

I’m not having it. Burnley, Blackburn & PNE won’t look at our crowd today with jealousy. They’ll decide, well done the 12-13 thousand regulars but the rest have almost been given their ticket. I get that certainly in Blackburn’s and PNE’s cases, they would love to have our normal numbers but let’s not get giddy about folk turning out at £5 & £10 per ticket. The next home game will be the measure, not this one. Especially if we remain unbeaten at Sunderland next week and Charlton a week Tuesday.

Assume you go on the cocktails after 5pm? Complan with a dash of Sherry, something like that? All gathered round a wireless dancing to Vera Lynn bangers.

The way Wilder left Sheff Utd's domineering owners suggests to me he'll go nowhere near the forest job

no it's not , just not run correctly, this has been mentioned loads of times , with a bit of investment , could double their takings

Ipswich was a small compact bar area and it worked a treat just efficient staff is all you need

Call the cops, I'm off me chops 🤣

About effing time, should have been last season and then they would have been relegated.

Great news, fuck em. ...and for anybody saying, "it happened to us, so we should have some sympathy for them" Nope, fuck em with bells on, they've been getting away with shit for years, chasing the premiership dream like some other's. I'm gonna give them one big wave when we pass them on our way up 👋

I would love Bolton to be in a position where 22,000 seats is not enough to meet the demand from its fans.Happy now

Pointless club land in pointless stadium. They deserve each other.

Said it before The CL Goals Show on BT Sport, in particular during the group stage, is the best footy show around Lisbon v Ajax is a great game

McGinlay.

I think lampard was concerned with his defending- a car crash waiting to happen.

Women's football doesn't appeal to me to be honest. It's Ok for about 10 minutes to have a laugh at the goalkeepers, but otherwise, I'll watch a different channel. It's a non-story about why Sky etc show it, they show lots of other minority sports like Rugby (both), golf, F1 etc etc, none of which are appealing either. However, if showing women's football gets more girls interested in watching/playing the game, it's got to be a good thing, no?

I know they had a good win at Leeds but I have this suspicion that the Liverpool system has been rumbled by the other big boys and, unless my hearing is failing, Klopp says he won't be changing it. Time will tell I suppose. If I had to pick just one it would be Chelsea.

Spoke to him the other day to book his holiday, belting bloke.

Worraloadabollox. I have a season ticket in the ESL with my daughter and we don't fall into any of your brackets for typical ESL punters, neither do thousands of others who i see who frequent the ESL, just normal folk most of 'em. There might be a couple of hundred or so noisy kids in the corner but that's about it,like them or loathe them they help create a bit of "Banter" with opposition fans. We prefer the ESL because it's closer to where we park, the atmosphere is better than the West or North Stand, plus we're not quite ready for a library atmosphere, sucking on Werthers originals with blankets over our knees.

I was a little critical that he should have scored more last season but I really couldn’t have asked for more from him. You always think your striker should have a 100% conversion but we wouldn’t have been promoted without him. I think so, cliche alert but you can’t teach that strikers instinct. He just looked very tired against Burton but Ipswich he looked a lot sharper

Nice one. It’s right behind my house so might pop round when I can

Same. And you don’t get some old codger complaining about standing up when there’s a close chance or someone gets you out of your seats. Want to sit and be quiet go and watch the cricket

... &, is it 20, live matches on the BBC. We'll be having their results straight after the Premiership ones soon. Truly social engineering.